Ricardo Quaresma

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The thing, we should play or motta or cambiasso, never both.
 

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I bet if he was at a lower serieA team playing every game regardless of form you'll see a very good player. The guy has never played well for us but he's never played reguarly either... It took Zidane at least 6 months of regular game time to start playing well in serie A...

Anyway, it's clear he needs to go but I still feel a little cheated cause I have seen RQ at a high level against world class teams and he was amazing... We will never get to see it in an inter jersey
 

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ManU fans would have made a song out of Quaresma, i am sure of that.
 

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I bet if he was at a lower serieA team playing every game regardless of form you'll see a very good player. The guy has never played well for us but he's never played reguarly either... It took Zidane at least 6 months of regular game time to start playing well in serie A...

Anyway, it's clear he needs to go but I still feel a little cheated cause I have seen RQ at a high level against world class teams and he was amazing... We will never get to see it in an inter jersey



Jesus Christ now the Quaresma/Zidane comparisons are starting?? I need to get the fuck out of here!
 

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Jesus Christ now the Quaresma/Zidane comparisons are starting?? I need to get the fuck out of here!

I think you need to calm down and stop acting like an idiot.

He used the example of Zidane to show that even the best players need time to settle. Zidane also took around 6 months to start performing at Real.

Never did he compare his abilities or achievements to those of Zidane.
 

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LOL people are using Zidane in the same breath as Quaresma and I am the idiot??? Man I can understand people being fanboys of Ibra, at least he is a great player...never expected to see fanboys for a player who has disappointed Inter fans every time he steps on the field...
 

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LOL people are using Zidane in the same breath as Quaresma and I am the idiot??? Man I can understand people being fanboys of Ibra, at least he is a great player...never expected to see fanboys for a player who has disappointed Inter fans every time he steps on the field...

Did you even read or understand what i just said?

It would be nice if you actually responded to the points that have been made rather than just having a hissy fit because you saw the words Zidane and Quaresma in the same sentence without realising the context.
 

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Did you even read or understand what i just said?

It would be nice if you actually responded to the points that have been made rather than just having a hissy fit because you saw the words Zidane and Quaresma in the same sentence without realising the context.


Ok I thought it was just obvious not mention Zidane with Quaresma, but it appears that you need a bit of schooling...

Zidane won the fuckin World Player of The Year twice at Juventus and Ballon d'Or and finished in the top 3 of it in 2 other years before moving to Madrid. He could have scored 10 fucking own goals in his first 6 months and he still would have deserved to start every fucking match.

Are you really that stupid that you cannot see your statement about giving Zidane a chance to adapt and Quaresma a chance to adapt is the same thing is completely idiotic??
 

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Ok I thought it was just obvious not mention Zidane with Quaresma, but it appears that you need a bit of schooling...

Zidane won the fuckin World Player of The Year twice at Juventus and Ballon d'Or and finished in the top 3 of it in 2 other years before moving to Madrid. He could have scored 10 fucking own goals in his first 6 months and he still would have deserved to start every fucking match.

No need to get angry or start swearing.

Like I said, he didn't compare Zidane's achievements to Quaresma. Alessandro was actually referring to his first 6 months at Juve. Either way, it appears the point has gone completely over your head.

Are you really that stupid that you cannot see your statement about giving Zidane a chance to adapt and Quaresma a chance to adapt is the same thing is completely idiotic??

I didn't make the initial statement and i didn't say it was the same thing, so please stop putting words in my mouth. It was merely an illustrative example.
 

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No need to get angry or start swearing.

Like I said, he didn't compare Zidane's achievements to Quaresma. Alessandro was actually referring to his first 6 months at Juve. Either way, it appears the point has gone completely over your head.



I didn't make the initial statement and i didn't say it was the same thing, so please stop putting words in my mouth. It was merely an illustrative example.


So you can say I am acting like an idiot, but I can't swear?? Give me a break man. I saw that Alessandro said Juve, that why I responded to you and not him, when you said Real Madrid...


Whether you are comparing achievements or not you cannot compare anything between Zidane and Quaresma...One is one of the greatest footballers of all time and one is a reserve player...
 

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Can't you understand what is the point?

FIRST 6 MONTHS. Zidane was not world class player in his first 6 months at Juve. So stop thinking Zidane AFTER those 6 months, when he started to become the world class player we all know.

The initial point was that Quaresma hasn't been given the chance to prove himself properly (~6 months). That it took Zidane 6 months (the chance was given to him) before he started to play good in Serie A.

Whether you are comparing achievements or not you cannot compare anything between Zidane and Quaresma...One is one of the greatest footballers of all time and one is a reserve player...

Forget about the "one of the greatest footballers", because Zidane was not one in his first 6 months at Juve. Can you change your point of view to this?

I'm not saying this is my opinion, but just felt you needed some more clarification even after Il Muro's very clear explanations. (

(I emphasize, my opinion is not that Quaresma would become as good as Zidane had Inter give him 6 months chance)
 

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So you can say I am acting like an idiot, but I can't swear?? Give me a break man. I saw that Alessandro said Juve, that why I responded to you and not him, when you said Real Madrid...

You were acting like an idiot...

I said he also took time to settle at Real (i.e. in addition to the time he took to settle at Juve).


Whether you are comparing achievements or not you cannot compare anything between Zidane and Quaresma...One is one of the greatest footballers of all time and one is a reserve player...

Who's comparing him to Zidane? We know the difference in quality between the two players, but the Zidane reference was only an illustrative example. Ironically, it is you who is now comparing the two players.
 

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You did not once say anything about Juve until now, Alessandro did. So the fact that you are trying to prove that it took him 6 months at Real Madrid is what I am disputing. Notice how I only made one comment about what Alessandro said and I am now on my 4th post to you Muro?

You said that a 2 time FIFA World Player of the Year and Ballon d'Or Winner was given 6 months to perform and somehow you feel that Quaresma deserves 6 months to prove himself based on the fact that Zidane was given 6 months before he starting performing.
 

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Can't you understand what is the point?

FIRST 6 MONTHS. Zidane was not world class player in his first 6 months at Juve. So stop thinking Zidane AFTER those 6 months, when he started to become the world class player we all know.

The initial point was that Quaresma hasn't been given the chance to prove himself properly (~6 months). That it took Zidane 6 months (the chance was given to him) before he started to play good in Serie A.



Forget about the "one of the greatest footballers", because Zidane was not one in his first 6 months at Juve. Can you change your point of view to this?

I'm not saying this is my opinion, but just felt you needed some more clarification even after Il Muro's very clear explanations. (

(I emphasize, my opinion is not that Quaresma would become as good as Zidane had Inter give him 6 months chance)


I really do not remember Zidane's first 6 months at Juve, but I highly doubt that he put in performances like Quaresma....
 

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You did not once say anything about Juve until now, Alessandro did. So the fact that you are trying to prove that it took him 6 months at Real Madrid is what I am disputing. Notice how I only made one comment about what Alessandro said and I am now on my 4th post to you Muro?

Do you realise what the word "also" means? Why would i mention it again when Alessandro has already done so? In addition, my post was backing up what Alessandro said.

I'm not trying to prove that it took him 6 months to settle at Real. I don't think many people would dispute that he did not settle in immediately at Real Madrid.

You said that a 2 time FIFA World Player of the Year and Ballon d'Or Winner was given 6 months to perform and somehow you feel that Quaresma deserves 6 months to prove himself based on the fact that Zidane was given 6 months before he starting performing.

Actually no i didn't say this. Again, stop putting words in my mouth. It was an example that shows even the best players need time to settle.
 

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omg make a Zidane versus Quaresma thread! ;)

it would create some interesting discussions :P
 

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I wouldn't be surprised to see that in these forums max...
 

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Zidane may not have shined for first few months, but he did not run into 4 guys without passing, or has done a Rabona sitting in acres of empty spaces.

No matter what league with what teammates, there are football norm that will be considered as outright stupid, and RQ thinks doind those and getting on youtube clips are better than somehow helping team out. Thisi has nothing to do with adapting to a new environment. It MAY be acceptable if he is three times better than every other players on the field and he has to work by himself, but that is not the case in Inter. Even Cassano in Samp works with teammates more than RQ does in Inter.
 
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Vito WTF honestly... Obviously RQ will never compare to Zidane. I'm glad the others actually read my post. Just to re-iterate... If you started quaresma everygame, you would see a better player. Adaption is key and some players take longer than others... Not everyone can be Sneijder. In the end Vito, Its all opinion but I can see Rq becoming a great player again but unfortunetly it won't be at Inter.
 

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Quaresma will be great player.... in the Portuguese league. I didn't see his play with Chelsea but like everyone else here, I remember his time with us and also like everyone else, was unimpressed. The timidness just won't cut it in any upper-tier league. Some players just can't handle playing on the big stage.
 
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