Roberto Mancini

[n4l]

haven't posted for a while but yeah, fuck Mancini

supreme douchebag...

 

[brehme1989]

Can you post the original Mancini comment?

 

[.h.]

https://www.football-italia.net/152551/mancini-my-inter-wouldve-won-champions-league

The article headline is kind of misleading, the actual quote is:
"“We had built a very strong team, but after I left they added another four or five decisive players,” said Mancini of his 2004-08 tenure.

“I think that sooner or later, Inter would’ve managed to win the Champions League with the era inaugurated by me. Of course, the credit must also go undoubtedly to Jose Mourinho.”"

But still - replacing half the first team and pretty much the entire bench except for a few people... I heard a story that Mourinho had the Mancini squad up on a board behind his desk, and in the second summer as he sold people he'd cross them out - he ended up with like 15 people crossed out I think?

That's a major overhaul.

 

[brehme1989]

This is from Football Italia who are crap at translating. And it's obviously not the original comment.

 

[ADRossi]

Football Italia is rubbish, but it wouldn't even mildly shock me if Mancini made a comment similar to the one that they're implying. Of course he has an ego when his trophy cabinet is as full as it is. Not to mention he's currently considered a national hero of sorts for dragging the NT out of the depths of mediocrity.

Glad he's gone, he was dreadful in his second stint here. International football is a great spot for him to be.

 

[brehme1989]

Found the original transcript from GdS. They claim its from some Instagram video so someone who's more capable than me could maybe find the actual footage?

"Con me avevamo costruito una squadra molto forte, ma poi sono stati aggiunti 4-5 calciatori determinanti. Credo che l'Inter prima o poi ci sarebbe arrivata comunque a vincere la Champions con quel ciclo inaugurato da me. Anche se il merito va indiscutibilmente a Mourinho". Il ritorno a Milano nel 2014 non è stato così ricco di soddisfazioni, invece... "Avrei dovuto fare più attenzione, ho creduto a quello che mi dicevano. Però siamo stati in testa per diversi mesi alla Serie A e forse con più tempo saremmo arrivati a dama. Non è stato così, il calcio è questo e non ammette 'se'...".

It's just a transcript of what could have been a two minute discussion for all I know, but lets assume that's all there is.

To me it seems that his argument is that the Inter team he began to build was very strong and it was a matter of time to compete in the Champions League and that it happened after 4-5 decisive players were added and that the credit has to undoudtebly go to Mourinho ("indiscutibilmente" being the key word). So yeah, it's just Football Italia just being trash here. Whilst Stankovic and Cambiasso (Bosman transfer concluded in March 04 or something) were added before Mancini had joined us, he maybe had a say since we probably locked him sooner and Stankovic refused Juventus to join us which was a surprise to everyone. So perhaps Mancini persuaded him, but let's ignore that. But since we also got Favalli which probably was another Mancini request, it begs a question if he had to approve Cambiasso's move unofficially.
Mancini got us [if we are crediting the coach for the transfers] Maicon, Julio Cesar, Samuel and Chivu from that Champions League winning squad. There was also Zlatan, Vieira, Figo, Maxwell, Dacourt and Crespo from the players that Mourinho found and used in his first season. Mancini found Zanetti, Materazzi, Cordoba and Toldo here from the tripleta winning squad, along with Stankovic and Cambiasso that I mentioned earlier. I don't think the guy has any right to claim much for 2009-10 and I don't see him claiming anything either.

But he's right. The core of the players he had, which includes those he found here, was strong and could have won the CL. He failed to do so which is why he left. He failed a lot of times, too. And yes, Sneijder, Eto'o, Lucio, Milito and Motta were decisive transfers. That's a great use of the word. It beats signing Cesar, Mihajlovic at age 35, Suazo, Jimenez, Maniche and Wome. Ironically, only Wome was signed to be some sort of backup at the time. Obviously we made some great buys during his period, but it wasn't those that could have elevated us to the next level. He was considered too stubborn in the football world to play for and his friends were still alive and kicking so he wanted a reunion at Inter of all places when this shouldn't have been an idea even at Fiorentina where he started his career.


The rest is mostly grudges about the management not being fair to him in his 2nd term. I agree there, we had potential but we fucked it up and Suning didn't play this right with him. It'd be a much better transition with MAncini at the helm rather than rollercoaster season with 70m spent for players that didn't add anything (Joao Mario and Gabriel Barbosa). I doubt we would have reached the CL spot (3rd place) in 2016-17 with Mancini, but we fucked things up. Not that I trusted Mancini to make better use of the funds, but at least if he approved of the deals we'd have bought more useful players and due to his experience from Manchester City he had more exposure to the football players as a manager than in his first tenure where he was viewed as a flashy cocky bastard turned manager that lucked out due to Calciopoli just before Moratti had fired him in 2006. Allegedly.

Either way, I was never his biggest fan, quite the contrary, but I do appreciate him for what he brought to Inter. Winning the cup in 2005 when we had forgotten that the competition existed and making it 'cool' again was something that shaped our future, which indeed had led to the Champions League squad. It was our first trophy in 7 years, a long drought for a team that had managed to have the likes of Ronaldo, Vieri, Cannavaro, Toldo, Recoba, Crespo, Adriano, Seedorf and Cordoba among others.
I know this feels like a very long time as it's been 9 years, but honestly back in 2005 it felt even longer since that Uefa Cup victory in Paris. Expectations always play a part in this one, and the 2000-01 season felt like 5 years itself.

 

[Jusef]

We should also mention that Mancini wanted to bring in Inler, Abdoulay Konko, and I believe Isla or Maggio can’t remember before he was dismissed in the summer of 08. Those acquisitions would have improved the squad from Mourinho’s Queresma, Mancini, and Muntari.

 

[brehme1989]

We should also mention that Mancini wanted to bring in Inler, Abdoulay Konko, and I believe Isla or Maggio can’t remember before he was dismissed in the summer of 08. Those acquisitions would have improved the squad from Mourinho’s Queresma, Mancini, and Muntari.

Abdoulaye Konko would have been a bad transfer, complete waste of money.
I doubt we wanted Isla from March 2008, he hardly ever played in Serie A by that point. We wanted to sign him under Rafa iirc.
Regarding Maggio I don't remember anything concrete. Either way, you're talking about a spot where we had Maicon and Zanetti, two of the best right backs ever.

Honestly, don't think there was much transfer activity after January 2008. I remember we wanted a midfielder and we ended up with Maniche on loan.

 

[.h.]

We should also mention that Mancini wanted to bring in Inler, Abdoulay Konko, and I believe Isla or Maggio can’t remember before he was dismissed in the summer of 08. Those acquisitions would have improved the squad from Mourinho’s Queresma, Mancini, and Muntari.

Tbh I dont think any of those would have majorly worked out. It was a somewhat inherited transfer strategy to bring in muntari and Mancini iirc but actually it was the first attempt to transform the team and failed and that failure taught Mourinho how to do it properly second time round

 

[DARi0]

Former Inter manager Roberto Mancini was the reason that Inter did not sign Gabriel Jesus a few years ago according to FIFA agent Sabatino Durante.

In the Summer of 2016, Inter were one of a number clubs that were vying to sign Jesus from Palmeiras but in the end they missed out on him to Manchester City, where he remains to this day and as per Durante, Mancini, who is now the Italian national team boss, was behind Inter missing out on him.

“He could have gone to Inter, but Mancini didn’t call him. This is why he chose Manchester City,” Durante explained in an interview with Italian news outlet CalcioMercato.it.
“He was one of the most promising Palmeiras players. Inter were strongly interested and I told the Nerazzurri to have Mancini call him because he is a very sensitive guy. Inter didn’t do it, unlike Manchester City. Guardiola called him and convinced him.”

Grazie Roberto
#faxisking

 

[thatdude]

I was just thinking about this the other day and how interesting a Lautaro - Jesus front line would be. Realistically if we get Jesus we never get Martinez though.

 

[brakbrak]

I was just thinking about this the other day and how interesting a Lautaro - Jesus front line would be. Realistically if we get Jesus we never get Martinez though.

You'll get to see it when man city buys lautato

 

[PHM1605]

I was just thinking about this the other day and how interesting a Lautaro - Jesus front line would be. Realistically if we get Jesus we never get Gabigol though.

Fixed. I still remember fif was arguing which Gabriel is better lol.

 

[Universe]

I was just thinking about this the other day and how interesting a Lautaro - Jesus front line would be. Realistically if we get Jesus we never get Martinez though.

I do not see what is so good about Gabriel Jesus.

 

[Javier'sSon]

Son of Jesus.

 

[I4E]

Former Inter manager Roberto Mancini was the reason that Inter did not sign Gabriel Jesus a few years ago according to FIFA agent Sabatino Durante.

In the Summer of 2016, Inter were one of a number clubs that were vying to sign Jesus from Palmeiras but in the end they missed out on him to Manchester City, where he remains to this day and as per Durante, Mancini, who is now the Italian national team boss, was behind Inter missing out on him.

“He could have gone to Inter, but Mancini didn’t call him. This is why he chose Manchester City,” Durante explained in an interview with Italian news outlet CalcioMercato.it.
“He was one of the most promising Palmeiras players. Inter were strongly interested and I told the Nerazzurri to have Mancini call him because he is a very sensitive guy. Inter didn’t do it, unlike Manchester City. Guardiola called him and convinced him.”

Grazie Roberto
#faxisking

Well of course, Cos Gabriel Barbosa was the shit. Gabriel Jesus clearly wasn't 'Milan rooftop' worthy.

 

[Ronaldo]

Former Inter manager Roberto Mancini was the reason that Inter did not sign Gabriel Jesus a few years ago according to FIFA agent Sabatino Durante.

In the Summer of 2016, Inter were one of a number clubs that were vying to sign Jesus from Palmeiras but in the end they missed out on him to Manchester City, where he remains to this day and as per Durante, Mancini, who is now the Italian national team boss, was behind Inter missing out on him.

“He could have gone to Inter, but Mancini didn’t call him. This is why he chose Manchester City,” Durante explained in an interview with Italian news outlet CalcioMercato.it.
“He was one of the most promising Palmeiras players. Inter were strongly interested and I told the Nerazzurri to have Mancini call him because he is a very sensitive guy. Inter didn’t do it, unlike Manchester City. Guardiola called him and convinced him.”

Grazie Roberto
#faxisking

This is heresy. There is no proof that even if Mancini called him he would end up at Inter. Man City came with a bugger offer and Guardiola as their coach so the choice was simple.

 

[Sassuolu]

Wasn't that the summer where Suning came in? Even Ausilio didn't have a say in transfers then, twas all Kia.

 

[brehme1989]

This is heresy. There is no proof that even if Mancini called him he would end up at Inter. Man City came with a bugger offer and Guardiola as their coach so the choice was simple.

At the time of the transfer, this was already known. Gabriel Jesus confirmed interest from our end, Ronaldo was actually pushing us to sign him. It was mentioned that the reason he chose Manchester City was that Guardiola took the time to call him, express his interest and tell him how he'd be used on the team.

I don't think they really offered him more money that we did. We were paying Gabriel Barbosa 2.7m EUR I think and Gabriel Jesus makes like 2.4m GBP, which is roughly the same.

Cannot tell if a call from Mancini would have helped on that, but honesty he's not really a better player than Barbosa. He just ended up in a much better and stable situation.

 

[NimAraya]

This is heresy. There is no proof that even if Mancini called him he would end up at Inter. Man City came with a bugger offer and Guardiola as their coach so the choice was simple.

Yeah the report is just odd. It's like if Mancini called him Jesus would go "OMG Mancini called me, I only want to go to Inter!" Well no, I dont think that's the whole deciding factor as why Jesus joined City and not Inter.