Rodrigo De Paul

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Napoli keep doing their smart business, like every year

we should not waste anymore time while other clubs are acclerating to get him. we need to sign him soon.
Napoli haggle De Paul price-tag

Napoli are confident they can haggle down the €35m Udinese asking price for Argentina international Rodrigo De Paul to just under €30m.

According to Il Mattino, Azzurri President Aurelio De Laurentiis wants to close a deal with the Pozzo family and will try to use his good relationship with the club to lower the €35m price-tag.

They are expected to bring that down to just under €30m, beating competition from Inter.

The paper reports that the Partenopei will offer the attacker €1.5m per year, more than double the amount he is currently earning in Udine.

The 25-year-old joined the Zebrette from Valencia in 2016 for just €3m and has gone on to establish himself as one of the better creative midfielders in the league, scoring nine times in 36 Serie A games this season, along with eight assists.

His performances in Udine also helped earn him four senior Argentina caps.

*** we wanted to give what, like €3m/year right from the start? :yao: good player, but doesn`t seem like Conte is considering him as a priority...
 

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Simone Verdi signing turned out to be not that smart, at least considering the fee.
 

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Verdi was unlucky having a new coach coming and then 2 injuries that kept him out of the squad... He is still young and can prove himself. Anyway, I would love us to have our worst transfer called Verdi and not Barbosa/Joao Mario type of monumental fails... Not to mention the AMOUNT of fails compared to Napoli! :palm:
 

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All links to him have died since Conte arrived, so I will close this thread for the time being.
 

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Where would we play him?
 

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I am vehemently against this signing. Especially for the rumoured price. He really has no position in our formation. He isn't an SS and he certainly isn't a mezzala. Just because that's where he plays at Udinese, it doesn't mean he can play a similar role at Inter. We would be weak defensively with De Paul as a mezzala. It's also not a coincidence his best performances at Udinese have come as a left winger in 4-3-3.
 

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Where would we play him?
He would play as a CM [mezzala] here. Fact that he performed well on the wings is only a bonus, because he can actually take the ball forward with him while being dynamic. De Paul got flair + he knows how to take a free kick. :datass:

this linguistic cross-pollination is also the cause of a great deal of confusion, and at worst, it can promote a petulant form of snobbery. A few years ago, you could putatively tell the difference between people who 'got' Italian football versus those who didn't in terms of whether they knew the subtler meanings of the word fantasista. Later, the parole du jour became trequartista. Today, at a time when variants of the 4-3-3 are so profuse in Serie A, the term that keeps appearing in debates is mezzala.

An increasingly divisive and popular tag, the mezzala is described in terms that are getting more and more specialistic. It is, we are told, a new role, a product of the modern innovations in Serie A. The role of this player is variable: some believe he is a box-to-box midfielder with special duties, others argue that he must overlap with the winger, and a few provide detailed, convoluted explanations of the passing geometries that a player must engage in to belong to that exclusive Italian club.

Though I accept that Italian terms may assume a life of their own in English-speaking circles, these disagreements call for a little bit of clarification. All the more so because the Italian language is frequently invoked as a source of taxonomical legitimacy. Sentences often start with, 'But in Italian, the term means...' or 'What Italians originally meant by that word...', and so on.

So, let us try and clear the air a little, and hopefully make the term more accessible to everyone. Firstly, the spelling is mezzala or mezz'ala (both are equally acceptable), and not mezalla, mezala, mezza'la, mezzella, mezzalla, or mozzarella, most of which are misspellings I have seen with my own eyes. It is not necessary to capitalise it as Mezzala, any more than it is necessary to capitalise regista or terzino.

The term mezzala is a contraction of 'mezza ala', meaning 'half wing(er)'. The plural is admittedly tricky: the plural for the word 'ala' in Italian is 'ali', but the football vernacular turns it into mezzale (and not 'mezzali', even if this appears more logical).

Contrary to what is sometimes declaimed, there is nothing new or innovative about the use of the word mezzala. If anything, the term is quite primitive: back in the 1930s, when the standard football formation was the WM system, Italians had only two words to describe the role of the midfielder: the first was 'intermedio', describing the two players closest to the defence, and the other was mezz'ala (at the time always spelt with an apostrophe), referring to the two players closest to the offence.

The Italian word for a midfielder in general, which is 'centrocampista', is by comparison fairly young. It was coined only in the 1950s by the father of Italian football journalism, the legendary Gianni Brera. It was originally written as centro-campista, then without the hyphen from the 1960s onwards.

A slight but useful digression: the meaning of centrocampista was and remains very broad, and embraces a great variety of players. If someone proposed that, on account of their technical differences, Andrea Pirlo was a true centrocampista whilst Daniele De Rossi is not, that person should expect to be on the receiving end of some funny looks. This allows for a pertinent analogy, because for all of the bluster, the same should roughly be true of the mezzala.

It is helpful to draw a distinction between Italian football words which describe a position and those which describe a role. A 'trequartista' is primarily a position, specifically the central lines of the pitch at a height approximately between the midfield line and the opposition box. A 'fantasista' is a role, describing creative, technically gifted players who can invent offensive plays and moves on the fly. For obvious reasons, these two terms overlap, and in casual conversation they may be used interchangeably (within reason).

The term mezzala, in contemporary Italian, indicates a position in a three-man midfield. Thus, in a 4-3-3, the central spot in the midfield will usually be occupied by a playmaker (regista), flanked by two mezzale. If the simplicity of the definition feels anti-climactic, that's because it should: a mezzala is simply any midfielder playing on one of the two sides in a three-man midfield. It may alternatively be used to describe any central midfielder whose role is not specialised (someone flanking the playmaker in a four-man midfield, for instance).

The confusion in English-speaking circles stems from the fact that this descriptor for a position is frequently used as though it indicated a role. Thus, claiming that a mezzala can also be a mediano (or even a slightly decentered regista) is presented as a contradiction. The 'real' experts of Italian football, apparently, would never confuse these two terms so grossly.

But in truth, in the same way that a fantasista can also be a 'punta' (striker), and a trequartista can also be a box-to-box midfielder, likewise the term mezzala accommodates a variety of roles. In fact, as a position covering the whole range from central midfield to either of the wings, it is among the most flexible terms in the game, and it includes a very wide array of footballer-types, both offensive and defensive, both gritty and creative.

If someone wants to use the word mezzala to indicate something more specific in relation to a particular team or tactic, that's fine. Modern football is a sophisticated game, and a sophisticated language is sometimes necessary to describe it. What really doesn't work is using that word (or any other word) to validate alleged expertise, which is unfortunately what it is often employed for. This is only a form of presumption.

The trend we are seeing at work with the term mezzala is not a special case but a constant of football discourse, which is why the cautionary conclusion to this article is necessary. I mentioned other Italian terms that, at several points in time, became fashionable as the markers of a fictional football aristocracy. It is appropriate to close this article with the only one of these words that never falls out of fashion, that being catenaccio.

Very succinctly, the word catenaccio refers to a particular tactical system developed in Italy during the 1950s and 60s. In common parlance, both in Italy and abroad, the term is also synonymous with 'parking the bus', or defensive football of a particularly stale nature.

Periodically I come across someone in a football debate using the latter, more casual definition of catenaccio, only for someone else to perk up and claim that the real meaning of catenaccio is in fact a lot more complex, historically specific and subtle, and clearly the other person has no understanding of Italian football if s/he does not know such a basic distinction. But in reality, both definitions are completely acceptable, and using or even occasionally confusing one with the other is no indicator of anyone's level of understanding of Italian football.

Employing specialised/specialistic definitions of a word and then silencing other speakers for using a simpler, more common definition (as opposed to engaging with their actual arguments) is a rhetorical trick as old as the hills, and it is certainly not limited to football. You may witness instances of it almost any time you listen to a political debate.

A broader discussion of this fallacy goes beyond the scope of this article, but within our little circle of sports fans, you should keep an eye open for people explaining the term mezzala for you (or whatever next becomes fashionable: regista, seconda punta, fluidificante...). If you notice that their definition becomes particularly complex or convoluted, and if they attempt to dismiss your arguments on the grounds of you not being familiar with their specific definition, then the person you're dealing with is not an expert, only a charlatan.

Udinese want €40m for De Paul, our plan is to get him on loan for €5m plus redemption in 18 months for another €25m. :datass:
 
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He would play as a CM [mezzala] here. Fact that he performed well on the wings is only a bonus, because he can actually take the ball forward with him while being dynamic. De Paul got flair + he knows how to take a free kick. :datass:

Udinese want €40m for De Paul, our plan is to get him on loan for €5m plus redemption in 18 months for another €25m. :datass:

This is something Marotta would manage to convince a club to agree to whilst he was at Juve.
 

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Brozovic and Barella provide enough defensive coverage so players like de Paul and sensi can support the attack. He can also see time at LW in a 343. If kulusevski is possible on january then de paul is not coming.

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Napoli will offer 1.5 million.... a season

Will we offer 3 or 5 million euro a season?
 

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nice gol today:
https://tiger.cdnja.co/v/q2/q2pX.mp4?secure=PFlJ7Jf919LRkBrzPS-Cmw&expires=1576945800
I'm really looking forward to see him in better team. Maybe Inter, maybe other Serie A team, but it's difficult for him to play technical football with teammates who lack skills.
Link not working any more, who did he score against?

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Meanwhile I`m getting used to the idea of having De Paul in our locker room along with Candreva

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Link not working any more, who did he score against?

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Meanwhile I`m getting used to the idea of having De Paul in our locker room along with Candreva

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Cagliari.
 

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Thanks, just wanted to share his goal here
[youtube]BzDC__3XwPY[/youtube]
Goal @ 1:15
Pidgeon @ 2:01 - yo guys can I play?
 
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