Sassuolo - Inter (2 Oct 21) [1-2]

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I always find these " we didn't deserve the win" arguments stupid. In most cases Whoever, whoever scores more goals deserves to win, because one team could have made 10 more chances than the other team but if they couldn't make those count, they didn't deserve to win. End of discussion.
 

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I always find these " we didn't deserve the win" arguments stupid. In most cases Whoever, whoever scores more goals deserves to win, because one team could have made 10 more chances than the other team but if they couldn't make those count, they didn't deserve to win. End of discussion.
It's a game after all and whoever take better advantage of incidents win the game. Some might call it deserved, some may not. But I find it strange to hear that in a forum that has promoted "a win is a win" for a long time. More strange that we had many ugly wins under conte but people now call that a solid win while they call this "undeserved"!
 

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I watched the first 38 minutes of this game and got so pissed off with what I was seeing, that I went back to sleep. Our first half was abysmal and what really stood out for me is that even though the players have more "freedom" to express themselves under Inzaghi, part of that freedom involves the tolerance of shit passing, players being out position, constant turn overs in possession and wastefulness in front of goal.

When I woke in the morning and saw the result, I was surprised that we managed to turn it around. I have gone back and watched the game and the main thought I have is that the football we are playing is unsustainable. We can not keep conceding goals and chasing games otherwise the team will burn out before Christmas. This is especially the case when Dzeko, who is effectively leading the line, is 36 years old and his replacement, Correa is an absolute no show.

Somewhere along the line, the team needs to start playing from the very first minute rather than playing in patches and our defending needs to tighten up. The contrast from last season when we played on the counter and bullied and choked our opponents into submission could not be more stark. That cutting and incisive play was great to watch and yielded results. Given the way Izaghi's Lazio played, I am doubtful that we will be able to play in the same way and I feel this might be as good as things are going to get (or at least close to it) in terms of our overall play.

This season, it feels like there is a lot of improvising and there are parts of our game that are distasteful. It feels like we are taking a wait and see approach in relation to how games unfold as opposed to trying to control it from the beginning. And if the Handanovic call had gone a different way, we probably would have been looking at a different result. I guess what I am trying to say is that it already feels like we are under pressure and on a knife's edge or that we are only just getting by and it is only a matter of time before we get found out.

The way I see things, all the talk about Inter still being strong and the replacements that were brought in: Dumfries, Correa and Dzeko, Calhanoglu are just media talk. What is obvious is that Correa and Calhanoglu can not be counted on and are inconsistent (the latter more so than the former). Dumfries is pretty raw; Dzeko can not sustain this level of performance for the whole season and Calhanoglu is totally underwhelming. With this in mind, dropped points and and shit showings are in inevitable because we are missing the depth and options that we had last season.

Right now, we are just hanging in there but there are going to be games when we cannot go through the gears, bridge the gap and take the lead as we did against Verona, Fiorentina, and Sassuolo. It makes for entertaining football and is fun to watch, but against the likes of Real Madrid, Lazio and Juventus, we need our games to have a different storyline and right now, I do not think we are tight enough at the back or controlling enough in terms of dictating play, to get positive results in those games.

My final words in this post are dedicated to Handanovic who was exemplary, Inzaghi who made four substitutions in one go and Dzeko who came on and made a difference. Perhaps what I loved most is his reaction to scoring: he was absolutely pumped and conveyed that to his teammates when he was going back to the half-way line. Essentially, he encouraged his teammates and was telling them to keep going, keep fighting for a result. What is abundantly clear is that there is a distinct lack of leadership in that regard. When Dzeko is not on the field, it is almost as if the players doubt what they are doing or feel that they cannot get a result.
 
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I watched the first 38 minutes of this game and got so pissed off with what I was seeing, that I went back to sleep. Our first half was abysmal and what really stood out for me is that even though the players have more "freedom" to express themselves under Inzaghi, part of that freedom involves the tolerance of shit passing, players being out position, constant turn overs in possession and wastefulness in front of goal.

When I woke in the morning and saw the result, I was surprised that we managed to turn it around. I have gone back and watched the game and the main thought I have is that the football we are playing is unsustainable. We can not keep conceding goals and chasing games otherwise the team will burn out before Christmas. This is especially the case when Dzeko, who is effectively leading the line, is 36 years old and his replacement, Correa is an absolute no show.

Somewhere along the line, the team needs to start playing from the very first minute rather than playing in patches and our defending needs to tighten up. The contrast from last season when we played on the counter and bullied and choked our opponents into submission could not be more stark. That cutting and incisive play was great to watch and yielded results. Given the way Izaghi's Lazio played, I am doubtful that we will be able to play in the same way and I feel this might be as good as things are going to get (or at least close to it) in terms of our overall play.

This season, it feels like there is a lot of improvising and there are parts of our game that are distasteful. It feels like we are taking a wait and see approach in relation to how games unfold as opposed to trying to control it from the beginning. And if the Handanovic call had gone a different way, we probably would have been looking at a different result. I guess what I am trying to say is that it already feels like we are under pressure and on a knife's edge or that we are only just getting by and it is only a matter of time before we get found out.

The way I see things, all the talk about Inter still being strong and the replacements that were brought in: Dumfries, Correa and Dzeko, Calhanoglu are just media talk. What is obvious is that Correa and Calhanoglu can not be counted on the latter more so than the former). Dumfries is pretty raw; Correa is inconsistent, Dzeko can not sustain this level of performance for the whole season and Calhanoglu is totally underwhelming. With this in mind, dropped points and and shit showings are in inevitable because we are missing the depth and options that we had last season.

Right now, we are just hanging in there but there are going to be games when we cannot go through the gears, bridge the gap and take the lead as we did against Verona, Fiorentina, and Sassuolo. It makes for entertaining football and is fun to watch, but against the likes of Real Madrid, Lazio and Juventus, we need our games to have a different storyline and right now, I do not think we are tight enough at the back or controlling enough in terms of dictating play, to get positive results in those games.

My final words in this post are dedicated to Handanovic who was exemplary, Inzaghi who made four substitutions in one go and Dzeko who came on and made a difference. Perhaps what I loved most is his reaction to scoring: he was absolutely pumped and conveyed that to his teammates when he was going back to the half-way line. Essentially, he encouraged his teammates and was telling them to keep going, keep fighting for a result. What is abundantly clear is that there is a distinct lack of leadership in that regard. When Dzeko is not on the field, it is almost as if the players doubt what they are doing or feel that they cannot get a result.
Excellent post, couldn't agree more.

Wanna emphasize that lack of on-field leadership. It indeed feels these barellas, brozovics, skriniars are simply not enough leader types to pump up the group. Barella and Brozo seems to be getting way too frustrated to their team mates and at times they tend to give up when they lose possession or something. It's alarming because that tells me Conte was the glue which bind everything together and no one could slack one second. Now Conte is gone and there isn't that glue anymore. Winning mentality can be found in the second halves but we would indeed need to find that mentality right from the start because not every match goes like Verona, Fiorentina, Sassuolo. Better opponents will punish more fiercely.
 

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Excellent post, couldn't agree more.

Wanna emphasize that lack of on-field leadership. It indeed feels these barellas, brozovics, skriniars are simply not enough leader types to pump up the group. Barella and Brozo seems to be getting way too frustrated to their team mates and at times they tend to give up when they lose possession or something. It's alarming because that tells me Conte was the glue which bind everything together and no one could slack one second. Now Conte is gone and there isn't that glue anymore. Winning mentality can be found in the second halves but we would indeed need to find that mentality right from the start because not every match goes like Verona, Fiorentina, Sassuolo. Better opponents will punish more fiercely.
Good point. The biggest thing we’ve lost with Conte’s departure is leadership. That’s not to imply that every team not managed by Conte will lack leadership, but as you say— he was very much the glue keeping everyone on the same page.

I’m not sure if it’s the fact that these players are incapable of stepping up to match that intensity or if it’s just the fact that we’re coming from perhaps the most over-bearing and involved coach to someone like Inzaghi. I suppose it’s normal for there to be some adjustment time, I just hope it’s not a genuine lack of leadership within our core players.
 

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Yeah I truly hope the team can find the same page. Simple things like players anticipating what others do and anticipating what might happen in 1-2 seconds and act accordingly. Conte shouted the instructions to the players 90mins during the match if you allow me to exaggerate a bit. What I hoped was they learned from this so that they don't need this shouting all the fucking time.

One thing is then what Inzaghi demands from the players. He might be less strict and demanding. Because team is slacking during the matches when it comes to defending, specially compared to Conte's Inter.
 

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Yeah I truly hope the team can find the same page. Simple things like players anticipating what others do and anticipating what might happen in 1-2 seconds and act accordingly. Conte shouted the instructions to the players 90mins during the match if you allow me to exaggerate a bit. What I hoped was they learned from this so that they don't need this shouting all the fucking time.

One thing is then what Inzaghi demands from the players. He might be less strict and demanding. Because team is slacking during the matches when it comes to defending, specially compared to Conte's Inter.
Does that mean the players didn't follow the instructions for 90 minutes? Kinda look like a negative point rather than a positive one.
 

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As if players hear everything a coach is shouting. Maybe in empty stadiums they hear more but we exaggerate immensely the influence of coaches along the touchline during games.
 
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The point is more about that what Conte has told the team and specific players how to play the game, and then he was in the sidelines shouting his instructions to emphasize the importance of his them which were agreed in trainings/before the match. I can guess it was about this.

But now it seems it's more loose. Inzaghi doesn't restrict players' movement, positioning, general play as much. And while that is surely a good thing in terms of evolution of Inter's football, it surely brings imbalances to our game. As the team get used to Conte's rigid football which brought them the results, this more loose football doesn't have the backing of the results (Scudetto) on this group of players.
 

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We have to relax considering the results. Only above the 20th match day you can really start to evaluate the results, as shown by Contes team, by Spalettis team (started off with 12-1-0 if I remember correctly), and previously shown by Mazzarri in the banter era.

We can rate the general performance until now though and can conclude that the team has next to no problems offensively, but the defensive phase doesn‘t show encouraging patterns/systems. Also it is concerning that our play making is very reliant on our GK and CBs which is why I hope that we get Onana, as this is certainly one of his strengths.
 

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Yeah you are right. Even the club has set the target as staying in top 4. So while of course the fans demand the Scudetto, club's targets are lower.

And we are doing better than year ago, stats-wise/points-wise. :D
 

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The point is more about that what Conte has told the team and specific players how to play the game, and then he was in the sidelines shouting his instructions to emphasize the importance of his them which were agreed in trainings/before the match. I can guess it was about this.

But now it seems it's more loose. Inzaghi doesn't restrict players' movement, positioning, general play as much. And while that is surely a good thing in terms of evolution of Inter's football, it surely brings imbalances to our game. As the team get used to Conte's rigid football which brought them the results, this more loose football doesn't have the backing of the results (Scudetto) on this group of players.
In that perspective you are right. But I think as you mention in terms of evolution it's a good thing. That's why someone as Conte doesn't last long at clubs because players get tired of robotic football and someone screaming at you for every movement you make. It's bad for players own development because they won't have to think for themself.

I think we need to give Inzaghi time. Not only because of the new tactics and losing 2 important players but because every coach needs time. Especially now with the financial problems we have. I also think a team needs to adapt to a new coach and his instructions but I can imagine it feels new for the players if all of the sudden you are ''free'' to move and not get shouted at. Players needs time to adapt. I would be happy with a top 4 finish, of course I would be disappointed if we don't win the Scudetto but the most important thing is we qualify for the CL so we get some money.

I do agree with you that we have to look at the players also. Winning mentality should come from the players within and not because a coach is highly demanding. But I get your point, I see it within my own ''coaching career'' (if you can call it that :yao: ). Whenever a highly demanding coach who shouts for 90 min and tell the players what to do even in training sessions is gone and the new coach is looser and not as present as a yelling coach teams seems to be lacking some motivation(if you can call it that) because they don't get shouted at anymore vice versa the same problem occur. The problem which worries me the most is that our defence is doing things I've never saw them doing under Conte. Easy mistakes, easy mispasses etc and especially the mistakes in defence worries me. These 3 guys are all top defenders and easily standing in the top 10/15 CB's of the world. So the next question is, are they all three not in form or is the team not helping the defenders and we are not well attuned to each other in terms of tactics.
 

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Cunteball was great to watch WTF I am reading here??????
 

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We scored lots of goals and received a small amount. I enjoyed our Conte games, even if I didn't always agree with his subs or some other tactical stuff. It was great to watch when it worked. It mostly did.
 

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Great goal by Vidal, another great play by Dzeko. Apparrntly the slow and finished Dzeko 🤣
 
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