Scotland

[Javier'sSon]

Clever but no way tops it.

 

[Dylan]

You clearly don't have Long Cox.

 

[ScottishInterista]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=262068007474711

 

[ScottishInterista]

For those who may not have heard, Celtic has handed a 13 year old kid his U20 debut with the club. This kid is apparently an unreal player for his age and completely dominated the Barca equivalent for his age group. Hopefully something comes of him in the next 10 years and allows him to fulfil his potential

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11787/10604779/celtic-hand-13-year-old-karamoko-dembele-his-debut-for-u20-side

Celtic showing some promise with people of the name Dembele

 

[ScottishInterista]

Fucking hell, the continual fuck up that is Rangers never fails to make me laugh that joke of a club. Reports that Warburton and weir are gone, both of them deny it, Rangers confirm it, both of them deny it again. How a club that used to be so big can fuck its fans over so much is amazing

 

[firmino]

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[Howl]

I just had a look at the SPL table, and Celtic won with 23 wins & 1 draw in 24 games

Man I thought it was hard to watch juve win easy every year.

 

[Fapuccino]

I just had a look at the SPL table, and Celtic won with 23 wins & 1 draw in 24 games

Man I thought it was hard to watch juve win easy every year.

Yeah but that draw must have been awesome...

 

[ScottishInterista]

I just had a look at the SPL table, and Celtic won with 23 wins & 1 draw in 24 games

Man I thought it was hard to watch juve win easy every year.

Depending on who you speak to the refs favour them as much as they favour juve

 

[Willie Miller]

Fucking hell, the continual fuck up that is Rangers never fails to make me laugh that joke of a club. Reports that Warburton and weir are gone, both of them deny it, Rangers confirm it, both of them deny it again. How a club that used to be so big can fuck its fans over so much is amazing

Enjoy it. These are great days with no sign of an end.

 

[ScottishInterista]

Doesn't do anything for Scottish football though. There's no point going to see half the games as so many players may as well be amatuer level

 

[Willie Miller]

What Scotland needs is a complete revamp. It needs to end the old firm duopoly.

I would like to see south American style split leagues with playoffs introduced. Never going to happen though.

 

[ScottishInterista]

Again, would just end up an old firm thing, any change which would negatively impact the old firm, the rumours about them joining the english leagues would pop up

 

[Willie Miller]

Again, would just end up an old firm thing, any change which would negatively impact the old firm, the rumours about them joining the english leagues would pop up

I would be happy to see them go. It's not healthy for two clubs to dominate the way they do. I'd much rather have a competitive league than two teams winning year in year out.

Many believe the old firm IS Scottish football. I think they do as much harm as good and the game here would improve without them.

 

[J..]

Scottish football would be nothing worth if it wasn't because of the Old Firm. The rivalry produced interest for football in Scotland which generated good Scottish players and thereby results. The league and the public interest of it would probably otherwise have been similar to the Irish league.

Lets take the Danish league as an example. FC Copenhagen was founded in 1992 and has since then been a true opponent to Brøndby. It has generated a lot of interest with the rivalry between them labelled "The New Firm". Honestly I think having two big powers in the league is the reason to why Danish football has been able to participate in the Champions League multiple times because otherwise would it had been dominated by a single team which would haven't put as much effort into it or a situation like in Ireland where all the teams would have stayed as semi-professionals like it was in the 70-80's.

 

[Willie Miller]

The Irish league argument. Hear this one alot. The Irish don't have football as their number one sport. They have other interests. Football is the sport of Scotland and would go on despite the old firm.

We had the whole armageddon guff after rangers were sent to the third division. Never happened. In fact my own club Aberdeen is in better financial health since the liquidation of rangers.

There's far more to Scottish football than rangers and celtic, two clubs who attract large support beacuse of sad and out of date views on religion.

 

[J..]

The Old Firm is probably the reason to why football is the sport of Scotland. Have you thought about that?

 

[Willie Miller]

The old firm make football number one in Glasgow. Why does it make football number one in Aberdeen or Dundee?

There's too much dependence on the old firm. It's like morphine, especially to the local press. We should be working to find ways to increase competitiveness and therefore crowds at Scottish games.

Is Juventus winning the league year in year out a good thing for Italian football? Not in my opinion. So why should Scottish football put up with celtic going for 10 in a row?

 

[J..]

Scotland has the crowds because of the two Old Firm clubs which sparked an overall interest for football in the country. Has the attendance numbers raised for Aberdeen, Motherwell, Hibs and Hearts since Rangers went down? Not especially.

I don't think Aberdeen and Hibs suddenly would raise their level on the field and thereby be able to increase their competitiveness. Instead I think you will experience the same as what happened in Norway; Rosenborg had been dominating and doing well in the European tournaments for many seasons until the air got let out of the balloon. Yes the result was a league with more competitiveness but the overall level of the teams went down.

I'm not saying the situation as it is now is good for Scottish football as I think we will see the same fate for Celtic as we saw for Rosenborg if this continues as it is difficult to stay motivated if you don't have an opponent at your level. I therefore hope Rangers will be back as I simply can't see anyone of the other Scottish clubs be capable of taking this task. They simply lack both the financial muscles and the number of supporters to make it happen which of course could change if they got a sugardaddy but it doesn't seem to happen. That's why I think the best and only option for Scotland is to have the true Old Firm back and not to forget the big importance it has had on Scottish football and hopefully still will have.

 

[Willie Miller]

Scotland has the crowds because of the two Old Firm clubs which sparked an overall interest for football in the country. Has the attendance numbers raised for Aberdeen, Motherwell, Hibs and Hearts since Rangers went down? Not especially.

I don't think Aberdeen and Hibs suddenly would raise their level on the field and thereby be able to increase their competitiveness. Instead I think you will experience the same as what happened in Norway; Rosenborg had been dominating and doing well in the European tournaments for many seasons until the air got let out of the balloon. Yes the result was a league with more competitiveness but the overall level of the teams went down.

I'm not saying the situation as it is now is good for Scottish football as I think we will see the same fate for Celtic as we saw for Rosenborg if this continues as it is difficult to stay motivated if you don't have an opponent at your level. I therefore hope Rangers will be back as I simply can't see anyone of the other Scottish clubs be capable of taking this task. They simply lack both the financial muscles and the number of supporters to make it happen. That's why I think the best and only option for Scotland is to restore the true Old Firm and to not forget the big importance it has had on Scottish football and hopefully still will have.

The average attendances increased since rangers went down. Strangely the only one that decreased was celtic.

The old firm does not spark interest in the game. In fact it can have an opposite effect. Aberdeen over the past 20 years or so have their biggest crowds at Pittodrie which don't involve old firm games. That's because whilst the day firm bring a large away support, the home fans stay away because of the nonsense they bring.