Sebastiano Esposito

[CafeCordoba]

Yeah. That's kind of a shitty deal if those numbers are correct. If no buyback and such a low resale %, option should have been higher.

Let's consider a scenario he gets sold for 20m. We get 4m from that. Makes it 9m in total. If we get 9m from 20m player, I don't think it's a good deal for us even considering Empoli gave him the minutes and trusted him.

If he's sold for 30m, he has become a really good player. But we net just 11m out of it.

15m would make it 8m.

Bottom line is, I just don't like the number 20 in resale. If the option was 10m, it would have made more sense to accept just 20%.I understand Empoli might not be able to pay 10m which ultimately leads us back to that resale %.

 

[Adriano@10]

Yeah. That's kind of a shitty deal if those numbers are correct. If no buyback and such a low resale %, option should have been higher.

Let's consider a scenario he gets sold for 20m. We get 4m from that. Makes it 9m in total. If we get 9m from 20m player, I don't think it's a good deal for us even considering Empoli gave him the minutes and trusted him.

If he's sold for 30m, he has become a really good player. But we net just 11m out of it.

15m would make it 8m.

Bottom line is, I just don't like the number 20 in resale. If the option was 10m, it would have made more sense to accept just 20%.I understand Empoli might not be able to pay 10m which ultimately leads us back to that resale %.

Why are we assuming that we did not take the best bid we got for him? And if this was one of the best deals we had on the table for him what would have been the alternative to taking a deal like this another dry loan? Keeping him so he plays 3 games all season?

 

[CafeCordoba]

I'm not assuming anything. I'm sure we took the best deal but it can still be a shitty deal.

 

[Il Drago]

A dry loan would actually be better than this shitty deal. It's a lose lose situation. If he doesn't do well they won't activate the option and he will be back to the club. If he does well 5m will be far below his fair value. 5m for a forward is nothing in today's market.

 

[PHM1605]

True but without a buy option they wouldn't use him as much. Esposito isn't theirs to care after all.

Now Empoli has all the motivation to develop their potentially fully owned player.

 

[Adriano@10]

I'm not assuming anything. I'm sure we took the best deal but it can still be a shitty deal.

The power of hindsight is really useless....
If we took one of the best deals available at the time we had to make a decision then we did the right thing...
Everything is irrelevant

A dry loan would actually be better than this shitty deal. It's a lose lose situation. If he doesn't do well they won't activate the option and he will be back to the club. If he does well 5m will be far below his fair value. 5m for a forward is nothing in today's market.

With a dry loan empoli would have no incentive to play him. He s 22 has 2 serie a games to his name and he has 1 year left on his contract once the loan expires....

 

[CafeCordoba]

The power of hindsight is really useless....
If we took one of the best deals available at the time we had to make a decision then we did the right thing...
Everything is irrelevant

Yes, we did the right thing if and probably when this was the best deal.

And it can STILL be a shitty deal.

 

[Adriano@10]

Yes, we did the right thing if and probably when this was the best deal.

And it can STILL be a shitty deal.

What? we did the right thing but it was a shitty deal? Also again this only works with the power of hindsight... Chances of it being a shitty deal are extremly low fucken chiesa just went for 15 mio how much more do you think a esposito can fetch with in a best case scenario of 1 good serie a season?
It s all just fans making a drama around nothing... like i d get it if he was 19 and this was his first loan spell....
Also what other path should we have taken? Clearly kid is/was not ready for inter and with another dry loan we probably would have had to renew him or loose him for free...

 

[Il Drago]

True but without a buy option they wouldn't use him as much. Esposito isn't theirs to care after all.

Now Empoli has all the motivation to develop their potentially fully owned player.

It didn't seem to affect Pinamonti and Satriano chances.

Empoli is one of those clubs that if youngster is good enough they will play him.

 

[Adriano@10]

It didn't seem to affect Pinamonti and Satriano chances.

Empoli is one of those clubs that if youngster is good enough they will play him.

Both satriano and pina had a season of top flight football before joining Emopoli

 

[#NotForMe]

I was actually wrong about him; or he just puts in effort now.

He actually has pretty good work rate, and the timing and decision when to track back and press up is quite good; his off ball and transitions are good too.
He definitely has more to show.

His play style is actually very good to develop into a vice Toro, very fit for our system.

Quite sure in 2 years he will worth 20M+.

 

[.h.]

I was actually wrong about him; or he just puts in effort now.

He actually has pretty good work rate, and the timing and decision when to track back and press up is quite good; his off ball and transitions are good too.
He definitely has more to show.

His play style is actually very good to develop into a vice Toro, very fit for our system.

Quite sure in 2 years he will worth 20M+.

Id be shocked tbh. He needs to like 2-3x his output

 

[#NotForMe]

Id be shocked tbh. He needs to like 2-3x his output

If he keeps putting in the work, there is a possibility that he will be the starter in the middle of the season.(Best case scenario he might be able to be like Toro with us in the early days, probably 1-2 years behind in development due to himself, but his potential is there, and at his age right now he can still catch up.)

More important at one point, his highest value was 10M; it is really all about how much potential he can live up to, if he relapses back to his fuck it all attitude, then it should be over for him.

20M+ is based on the assumption he is going to progress as the trend he is showing, and the potential talent he showed before.

Also I disagree the value is only tied with the output (if you mean goals and assists)
His output can be very different with the team he plays with. <<< Some players won't just make it anywhere regardless environment, he is not the Recoba/Adriano type. He remains me more of Rano and Bonucci type.

He is not Longo in short.

It is just my optimistic 2 cents.

 

[Il Drago]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1837186290074181879

 

[.h.]

good boy

decent technique too. heres to hoping he has a good season

 

[Gaindé]

Would have him here instead of the bootleg Ibrahimovic and Correass.

 

[.h.]

honestly i still stand by that being fucking crazy

arnautovic scored more goals in CL+ Serie A than Esposito did in Serie B last year.

 

[Adriano@10]

honestly i still stand by that being fucking crazy

arnautovic scored more goals in CL+ Serie A than Esposito did in Serie B last year.

It is crazy... and i m pretty sure not a single professional wether a GM or a coach would agree with that statement....

That being said the grass is always greener on the other side especially if the grass on the other side is also younger

 

[Corrode]

thanks to toro and taremi for their poor performance, Marcus for his inconsistency at the goal, the mediocre arnautovic, and the laziest Correa,

even Sebastiano looks like he is playing "number 9" role as a veteran Inter really need.

 

[Gaindé]

honestly i still stand by that being fucking crazy

arnautovic scored more goals in CL+ Serie A than Esposito did in Serie B last year.

Statistics is not the way to prove it though. Before we started heavily rotating the team and he got to play and statpad against the likes of Hellas and Salernitana, Arnautovic was basically useless and never challenged any of the two starters while he was actually the third in the pecking order. He scored 7 goals and 5 assists in 35 games in a team that was scoring nearly 3 goals per game absolutely dominating the league. Now he is an overpaid 4th striker, equally as useless and injured on top of that. He'll. Soon be 36, I'm absolutely convinced that the better option between having him or an Esposito or even a Pinamonti is the latter.

Esposito got injured but still managed 6 goals and 6 assists in 22 Serie B games while playing for f*cking Sampdoria. It's not the same level but your statement makes it look like it's an enormous margin while actually Arnautovic was basically a null factor the whole season until we had won the Scudetto. He is not the contributing asset you make him look like, honestly.

Let me not start about the grillmaster because in 5 Serie A games Esposito already has more goal contributions than he does in the last 38 games all competitiond and that includes playing in Ligue 1 against the likes of Angers and Reims.

And if you actually watch his game, you'll'see that he is not all about statistics. He will never be your typical 20 tap-ins a season striker. He is a second striker.