Semi-Final: Portugal - Spain

[sanka]

Fuckin sigh to see players like Busquets,Pedro celebratin.FO you twats.

Sorry i forgot the gay Fabregas too.

 

[FCBarca]

 

[interista4]

What? You have got to be kidding me! So, let's analise the Portugal team.

Goalkeeper: Rui Patrício, he may not be in a top class team but he made a wonderful season, he will move to a better team sooner or later

Defense: João Pereira, he sucks, thats all. Bruno Alves, he is a great defender with that can jump really high, better than almost every defender in this tournament, but not better than any of the defenders of Germany, Spain, Chiellini and Terry. Pepe, for me he is the best CD in the world, without any doubt. Fabio Coentrão, he is amazing, he always gives what he has to the team, for me he is in the best 5 LD of the world.

Midfield: Miguel Veloso is good, he made a great tournament, he is great at passing. Raul Meireles, he made a shitty tournament, but fortunately played very well today, but still a good player. João Moutinho, clearly the best one in this triangle. He a an amazing player, never saw him doing a bad game, I don't even know how he is still in the portuguese championship.

Attack: Everyone knows what we are capable of. We have the two best wingers in the world, unfortunately or striker doesn't have half of the quality that Ronaldo or Nani have.

But I forgive you, your ignorance talked higher.

Umm think you got me all wrong, you got a nice team, but I was talking overall today's european football compared to the past, you could be average and still be one of the best in europe, because most other are utter shit compared to old NTS, that was my point. And.. come on, you can't have an amazing forward without any good strikers, nice wingers indeed, Nani 2nd best winger tho? not quite, but he still has it in him. Although, when it comes to scoring, you lacked that part because you can't put it all on Ronaldo, he has his bad days too.
And simply, when he has them, you couldn't score against proper teams, cause let's fact it.... Almedia is way past his good days and Nani isn't a scorer.

And for that level you need to have a little bit more than that, right?
I agree although, you had one of the best defense and maybe the best one, but that's still not enough.

 

[mikec]

Umm think you got me all wrong, you got a nice team, but I was talking overall today's european football compared to the past, you could be average and still be one of the best in europe, because most other are utter shit compared to old NTS, that was my point. And.. come on, you can't have an amazing forward without any good strikers, nice wingers indeed, Nani 2nd best winger tho? not quite, but he still has it in him. Although, when it comes to scoring, you lacked that part because you can't put it all on Ronaldo, he has his bad days too.
And simply, when he has them, you couldn't score against proper teams, cause let's fact it.... Almedia is way past his good days and Nani isn't a scorer.

And for that level you need to have a little bit more than that, right?
I agree although, you had one of the best defense and maybe the best one, but that's still not enough.

Well, I have to agree when you said that we had a better team before. I think we have a strong attack, the fact is, we may not have a world class striker but Postiga managed to score 9 goals since Paulo Bento took comand of Portugal.

I think Nani is the 2nd best winger. But who do you think is better than him?

Ohhhh and btw, Almeida never had good days

Sorry if I ofended you when I said "your ignorance talked higher".

 

[interista4]

Well, I have to agree when you said that we had a better team before. I think we have a strong attack, the fact is, we may not have a world class striker but Postiga managed to score 9 goals since Paulo Bento took comand of Portugal.

I think Nani is the 2nd best winger. But who do you think is better than him?

Ohhhh and btw, Almeida never had good days

Sorry if I ofended you when I said "your ignorance talked higher".

No problem mate, we all have diff opinions and I may have been a bit harsh too, so I am sorry aswell if I offended you or anyone else for that matter.. only referring to players ofc and not countries.
Back on topic: yeah you had greater squads, but as most other european NTS nowdays, not as great as you used to have.
I liked Almedia in Werder (played for one of my fav all time teams in germany), but I guess his move to a lesser team and leauge has weaken him. He was pretty fine in my eyes, not a topclass, but good striker. As for Postiga, yes, he's a decent striker aswell but not worldclass as you said, and for the highest levels of europe you need to have better stikers than this.. or else, be in trouble against strong defenses.

I don't think Nani is the 2nd best winger, but he def is one of the greatest. Who I think is better? Well, if I had to choose any for Inter, I'd pick Robben, Ribery and Di Maria before him.

 

[Coasterfreek]

awful spain... cancer on football

If Germany somehow wins tomorrow... who are you rooting for?

 

[monster09]

hahahaa cr7 bitch, shoulda had the nerve to take one instead of waiting to be the penalty winning hero

Epic fail this post, Ronaldo wanted to take first penalty but it was manager's decision to put him on 5th. Ronaldo, Manager, Nani all said penalty takers order was decided before the tournament.

 

[sanka]

That's why ppl should not rush to flame him.All this hate on him makes me be by his side.

I mean most of the times ppl arguments are hillarious. blivious:

 

[rockball]

Can't blame Ronaldo here. Though I always feel penalties 3 and 4 are the most crucial and should be taken by the best players. Can vito pull out some data and compare how the opposition fared in the mini penalty round of 3/4 vs the overall result? Or any stats to show which penalty round has the most impact.

 

[sanka]

Can vito pull out some data and compare how the opposition fared in the mini penalty round of 3/4 vs the overall result? Or any stats to show which penalty round has the most impact.

I'm quite sure he won't resist the challenge.Soon enough the stats would be here

 

[Pajo]

Mikec, you are overrating your team a lot. I like Portugal and all, and i think they mostly need good CF. I'd even try CR there. But Moutinho, nor Coeantrao are as good as you say. The rest, i agree, more or less.

 

[monster09]

Mikec, you are overrating your team a lot. I like Portugal and all, and i think they mostly need good CF. I'd even try CR there. But Moutinho, nor Coeantrao are as good as you say. The rest, i agree, more or less.

Playing Ronaldo as forward will limit his ability, they need top class CF, there is no dout about it. Almeida was huge failure yesterday, was expecting much more from him.

Also Coentrao is just amazing, he had superb tournament and whenever I watched him he was very good both defensively and at attacking. IMO he is better than Marcelo and should be first choice LB for Madrid.

 

[Fitzy]

The hate on Ronaldo is over the top... way over the top. Not one player stood out today from either team tbh and it was a very interesting game tactically.

 

[Pajo]

No way Coentrao is better than Marcelo. Maybe the Marcelo pre-Jose, but he has improved 200% since than..

 

[Howl]

theres always the risk of your team missing pens, especially when 2 defenders decide to step up..

"It was just a question of me speaking with the coach. He said to me: 'Do you want to take the fifth one?' and I said 'yes'.

Epic fail this post, Ronaldo wanted to take first penalty but it was manager's decision to put him on 5th.

Nobody is forced into taking a penalty 5th, and he said yes when asked, obviously agreeing to be the hero and take the winning one.. they probably would have lost anyway because they had already missed, but still.. he should have taken one earlier, where did you read he wanted to take first?

Its just strange that your best player doesnt take one at all where it matters most

 

[monster09]

Nobody is forced into taking a penalty 5th, and he said yes when asked, obviously agreeing to be the hero and take the winning one.. they probably would have lost anyway because they had already missed, but still.. he should have taken one earlier, where did you read he wanted to take first?

Its just strange that your best player doesnt take one at all where it matters most

5th penalty taker will be under much more pressure than first one. Had he taken first one and Alves missed 5th, then you would have said Ronaldo opted for easy penalty and left poor Alves under pressure.

Had he said "No I want to take first penalty" to Manager, you would have said Ronaldo is cocky and his words are above Manager's.

Like Fitzy said, Hate for him is ridiculous and people will stoop to any level and dig up something to have a go at him.

In 2006 I think Ronaldo took 5th Penalty against England and scored.
In 2002-03 Shevchenko took the 5th penalty in Champions league finals.
In 2004-05 Champions league finals, Shevchenko took 5th penalty and Gerrard was in line to take all important penalty.
This year champions league, Schweinsteiger took 5th penalty in Semi finals and also in finals. Also Drogba took 5th penalty.

They were all the star players of their teams. Not the first time that your best scorer was left to take 5th penalty. If anything it is just another ridiculous attempt to have a go at Ronaldo.

 

[mikec]

Mikec, you are overrating your team a lot. I like Portugal and all, and i think they mostly need good CF. I'd even try CR there. But Moutinho, nor Coeantrao are as good as you say. The rest, i agree, more or less.

Well, your opinion. I think you haven't seen enough games from Moutinho. He plays for the team that I support, FC Porto, I have seen all of his games since he arrived, he would play in almost every team in Europe.

About Coentrão, I think you are wrong. Name 3 players better than him. I think only Marcelo and Lahm are better than him.

About the CF, I couldn't agree more.

 

[n4l]

yeah..i'll give you that coentrao has improved SIGNIFICANTLY in the 2nd half of the season with Real. He has improved ten fold defensively; way better defensively than Evra/Cole/Kolarov/Clichy and so. Better than marcelo defensively as well, but Marcelo on offense is just too good.

CF issue is known and obvious. Really was the weak spot of an otherwise very strong team. Maybe Bento should've considered playing another midfielder like Spain. Push Miereles up to play like Cesc, seeing as he's good at runs into the box anyway.

 

[Universe]

Missed the match. Are any Spanish players suspended for the final?

 

[n4l]

Missed the match. Are any Spanish players suspended for the final?

Nobody will be suspended for the final unless they get a red. UEFA reset all yellows after the quarterfinals