Serie A Calcio Mercato, Summer 2019-20

[varmin]

Everybody is laughing at piguain, yet he is a proven serie A goal scorer who, if he plays, will definitely score bags of goals. So I'm not sure what there is to laugh about. He just played a hell of a game v Napoli and embarassed one of the leagues best defenders with a golazo. Dude can play.

О, please If Piguain was brought here, you would have been one of the first to complain what shitty deal Marotta has done.

 

[rockball]

Thanks Bluenine for all the numbers here.

But if you are a club that wins trophies, you would inevitably be one that is paying top salaries. There is nothing wrong or laughable about that.

The issue is when a lot of your top earners are those that don't necessarily deserve it.

In this case, 5 of top 10 earners for Juve are Higuain, Ramsey, Rabiot, Dybala, and Mandzukic.

Of these 5, not more than 2 will regularly feature for them. In fact there is hardly a chance even 3 of those 5 are on the pitch at the same time for more than 20 minutes. And there is the problem for Juve. Offloading such players isn't easy, which is something we also faced with our players.

 

[Sokrates]

Thanks Bluenine for all the numbers here.

But if you are a club that wins trophies, you would inevitably be one that is paying top salaries. There is nothing wrong or laughable about that.

The issue is when a lot of your top earners are those that don't necessarily deserve it.

In this case, 5 of top 10 earners for Juve are Higuain, Ramsey, Rabiot, Dybala, and Mandzukic.

Of these 5, not more than 2 will regularly feature for them. In fact there is hardly a chance even 3 of those 5 are on the pitch at the same time for more than 20 minutes. And there is the problem for Juve. Offloading such players isn't easy, which is something we also faced with our players.

That's why (in my opinion) they are in deep shit. They can't offload many players, because they earn way too much.

 

[Shaun]

Thanks Bluenine for all the numbers here.

But if you are a club that wins trophies, you would inevitably be one that is paying top salaries. There is nothing wrong or laughable about that.

The issue is when a lot of your top earners are those that don't necessarily deserve it.

In this case, 5 of top 10 earners for Juve are Higuain, Ramsey, Rabiot, Dybala, and Mandzukic.

Of these 5, not more than 2 will regularly feature for them. In fact there is hardly a chance even 3 of those 5 are on the pitch at the same time for more than 20 minutes. And there is the problem for Juve. Offloading such players isn't easy, which is something we also faced with our players.

There is no reason why three of these players wouldn't start regularly. Ramsey probably will if he ever gets fit. Rabiot probably will once he learns their system, and one of Dybala or Higuain will start.

That's why (in my opinion) they are in deep shit. They can't offload many players, because they earn way too much.

Dybala didn't want to go to England. Doesn't mean he won't if he doesn't get regular football this season. Likewise Higuain will move on if he gets displaced by Dybala as he is too old to not play. Plus do you really think Ramsey won't go back to England if he doesn't settle in Italy? He'd easily be bought by a club there. While Mandzukic doesn't take me as the type of player to earn his paycheck by sitting on the bench. Can is the other highly paid player who won't play much, but he will have suitors across Europe if he wants to leave.

The issue isn't that these players can't be sold. It is that the players all believed they were going to be central to Sarri's plans. If it turns out to not be the case there will be clubs interested as they're all good or great players

 

[Wobblz]

Speaking of Can:

Emre Can on being left out of Juventus' Champions League squad: "I can't give an explanation, I received a call from Sarri that didn't even last 60 seconds.

"It's a huge disappointment, I have to play in the Champions League. I am shocked and angry.

"Me and my advisor talked to other clubs. After talking to Juventus I decided to stay. For me, one condition was to play in the Champions League.

"Had I known before, I wouldn't have stayed. Now I draw my conclusions and will talk to the club and my agent."

 

[Dogen]

Let's imagine the media reactions if it had been an Inter player saying the same exact things.

(Tommasone Berni, please, don't)

 

[Shaun]

It's exactly as I said. It's not that they have players who can't be sold, but rather its because these players all believe they're going to be important to Sarri's plans and therefore didn't want to leave.

 

[rockball]

There is no reason why three of these players wouldn't start regularly. Ramsey probably will if he ever gets fit. Rabiot probably will once he learns their system, and one of Dybala or Higuain will start.

We can hypothesize and talk about scenarios. In my view, Pjanic is a sure starter for them. And both these midfielders together with Pjanic does not give them the stability that having a Matuidi or Khedira in it does.

Another thing there is that De Ligt is their 2nd highest earner. He is a quality player and proven already, not to mention the potential he has being so young. But paying a 20 year old that much is bound to create issues later.

 

[Linege]

when you have top players, you have to pay them well, just like moratti did

as for today inter, i would not go past 100 mil mark for players only, we dont have any stars, WC players, top10 teams dont want any of our players so just dont

i liked our wage bill with first spalletti, around 80 mil, that was perfect

 

[Bluenine]

Now that the window has closed, here is my promised analysis of Marotta's mercato.

Good things:

1. Discipline: This is the biggest change Marotta has brought in. Zero tolerance for indiscipline, even at the most trying of circumstances. Icardi and Nainggolan, two of our biggest stars, faced the axe for their disciplinary indiscretions - that showed how far Marotta is wiling to go to take out the pazza from Inter. Getting someone like Conte in, who focusses on discipline and hard work, also shows this resolve. Zero tolerance at whatever the cost is the new mantra, and I love that.

2. Consistency: Inter for long did not have any consistency in strategy. Not anymore. The best thing about this mercato was that anyone can see exactly how the new buys fit in with the coaches tactical plans. They are all very professional and known for their hard work. We may not have given Conte everything he asked for, but whatever we gave to him fit with his tactical, attitude and behavioural requirements. The entire management is now speaking the same language and the actions match the words. If we can continue this consistent strategy for a few years, success is imminent.

3. Sustainability: A lot of our buys are young in their peak or full of potential. Our 4 big buys (Lukaku, Barella, Sensi, Lazaro) have an average age below 24. And while it looks like we have spent a lot (€155m buys, €57m sales), we have actually made plusvalenza for the year from the mercato. We have also reduced our wage bill (€110m from €122m). So not only is this strategy sustainable, we have not over extended ourselves and kept budget in the bank for use next year.

Bad things:

1. Sales: We managed to get rid of Icardi, Nainggolan, Perisic, etc but in financially poor terms. Even if you call this the one time cost of "zero tolerance", this could have been managed better from a financial point of view. We monetised our kids well as usual, but failed at getting rid of our excess baggage with reasonable return.

2. Gaps: Perhaps our mercato fell short of 2 further players (a quality midfielder and a back up striker). And we can't just blame this on Icardi's silliness. We could have sold Politano for 30m offered by Fiorentina to use for this. And Nainggolan seemed to have turned a new leaf this year and could have been given another chance if we couldn't afford another midfield buy. I think Marotta missed a trick here. When you go all in like this, you don't skimp on the final bit. This has been an historic problem with Marotta, some of the Juve fans I know don't call him Mister Miser for nothing.

Overall, I think Marotta did quite well under very trying circumstances. The final Icardi move made it from a decent mercato to a good one. We have a consistence strategy, taken out the craziness, and have fuel left in the tank to back it up if things don't go as planned. I would have given it a solid 7/10 purely based on the sporting side of things, but to achieve this in such challenging circumstances makes it 8/10 for me.

Now its over to Conte. We can still fuck things up as usual, but this time with Marotta at helm, looks like we will have a proper follow through. I am now quite optimistic, and expect a scudetto challenge by next season.

 

[wera]

We also needed one really great wingback. Biraghi is okay as far as I know him, Lazaro is still injured, Candreva already had a stinker at game day 2 and Asamoah is more than servicable.

It doesn't seem good enough, especially the right side. Maybe the plan is to play D'ambrosio when our top3 cbs are all ready.

 

[ForzaNerazzurro]

We also needed one really great wingback. Biraghi is okay as far as I know him, Lazaro is still injured, Candreva already had a stinker at game day 2 and Asamoah is more than servicable.

It doesn't seem good enough, especially the right side. Maybe the plan is to play D'ambrosio when our top3 cbs are all ready.

Our wingbacks aren't exactly great, they're just "good enough" I'd say. So are our substitutes in midfield.

For this season I'd be ok with us just signing one more midfielder in January and maybe if Lazaro turns out to be a flop we could bring another low-profile wingback and we should be fine competing for 2nd place. Maybe also a backup striker for Lukaku? (Petagna )

I don't think it's fair or realistic to expect the team to win the Scudetto this season though of course it's not impossible if everyone turns up.


If we continue on this track I feel by next season we could have a squad that is capable of great things.

 

[rockball]

Our wingback situation just depends on how Lazaro pans out. We are well covered on the LWB with Asamoah and Biraghi, who are both known quantities and consistent performers.

For RWB, surely Candreva is going to be average at best. Let's hope Lazaro comes good. The injury was unfortunate, but at least he was signed very early and has spent enough time with the team on the tactical front.

 

[Palatiga]

Shame we didnt get kostic,
He is even better this year, and carrying eintrach
One of the best bundesliga player outside havertz (and dormuntand bayern)
Will fit perfectly as LWB

Maybe if icardi situation settled earlier we could negotiate more to get him

 

[Revv]

We should heavily invest in signing Kai Havertz. Seriously need to scoop this kid before anyone

 

[ScottishInterista]

We should heavily invest in signing Kai Havertz. Seriously need to scoop this kid before anyone

You do realise he's probably already going to be attracting bids of over 150 million? Bayern, Barcelona, Liverpool are all teams likely in for him

 

[Revv]

You do realise he's probably already going to be attracting bids of over 150 million? Bayern, Barcelona, Liverpool are all teams likely in for him

We will be getting 100 from perisic and mauro. We should invest in the hottest prospects in Europe

 

[Black Knight]

We will be getting 100 from perisic and mauro.

 

[Bluenine]

I would rather Inter focus on slightly more experienced players, and not blow up the entire budget on kids who are one season wonders. I would rather have Eriksen than Havertz, specially looking at the economics involved.

I would be happy with a mercato next year where we get players like:

- Eriksen (free)
- Jorginho (40m, if chelsea want to get rid of him)
- Meunier (free)
- Kostic (40m)
- Chiesa (30m plus Politano)
- Moise Kean (50m, if he makes an impact at Everton).

 

[.h.]

And pigs can fly