Serie A Calcio Mercato, Winter 2021-22

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I'm going to be furiously disappointed in him as well. Why would you even want to join this fucking juve.
 

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I’m going to get really, really, really fucking upset when Vlahovic ends up at Juve.
I have come to terms with it for a while so i am past that stage.
 

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I think its a good rule. This will stop some clubs trying to control or monopolise the market. Just a cursory look at wiki suggests that Juve have 22 players out on loan who are 22+ years old, while Inter have only 7. Juve will have to sell some kids.
Yes and no. This could possible mean that players like Agoume or Satriano don't get loaned out. Or maybe the players who are just below that level like Pirola. These players will play in the Youth teams and won't develop themself as they should/could. You could argue that teams will buy less players but I don't think football is a healthy business so I'm wondering if clubs like Chelsea will find a loophole. For example sell the player for 1 season for 3M and include a buy-back clause or something.

I get the idea behind it and I'm all for it but I doubt this is the way to go.
 

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After Fiorentina sending Chiesa to Juve on loan with option to buy, i wouldn't be surprised with anything when it comes to Comisso and his beloved Juve.

The offer reportedly is 35m plus Kulusevski valued at 35m.
 

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The difference is they aren't in that situation yet. Chiesa sale happened at the last mercato day when Chiesa had one year left of his contract. This might happen with Vlahovic in the summer. But I can't see why would Commisso accept it now. Vlahovic makes Fiorentina competitive to fight for the euro spots so selling now to their hated rival makes absolute no sense. They wouldn't even make max money as Juve try to include their shitters in the deal. Obviously because they don't have 60-70m€ to spend.
 

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After Fiorentina sending Chiesa to Juve on loan with option to buy, i wouldn't be surprised with anything when it comes to Comisso and his beloved Juve.

The offer reportedly is 35m plus Kulusevski valued at 35m.
Kulusevski 35m!! Lmao he's at the very most a 20m player.
 

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Regardless of how he plays on the pitch €35m is probably his accurate book value considering he transferred just last season for upwards of €40m, no?
 

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Hopefully this stops PL teams from poaching young players from all over the world and it stops other clubs spending a shitload of money on players they don't need.
Don`t you think this might further drive up the price for "ready-to-deliver" players? Who do you think will benefit of this? P$G, Man City and other play money clubs like Newcastle, because they can afford to splash big on a constant basis ;)

I'd love them to fuck that up. He's the only milan player I really wish we had.
I don`t think so, Theo is a fan of Maldini and recently expressid his recognition for Pioli.

I’m going to get really, really, really fucking upset when Vlahovic ends up at Juve.
Better prepare for it and let it sink in, agreement between his agent and merda seems reached since last summer. Rocco can`t wait to bend over again to serve his beloved juBentus.
 

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Don`t you think this might further drive up the price for "ready-to-deliver" players? Who do you think will benefit of this? P$G, Man City and other play money clubs like Newcastle, because they can afford to splash big on a constant basis ;)

They need to offload something like 30 players each before they start doing that.

The teams who benefit are pretty much everyone.


The only losers here are agents and everyone who wants transfer activity to keep increasing.

Teams will become much more sophisticated in transfers, they will avoid gambling on kids in hopes that they will eventually use or sell them, by shifting them in order to get their value up.


And let's be honest, it's a very lenient rule.
If you scrap that u21 nonsense, then sure. But teams can still poach 18 year olds and loan them out, which has been a cancerous component in football since around 15 years ago where English clubs started offering pro contracts to 16 year olds.


Hopefully the next step is to make the CL quotas 6 club trained and 16-18 home grown players. They won't though. But it's the only thing that will shake things up in this fucking sport that UEFA created a decade ago.
 

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I understood the loaning rule included u21, except home grown players. So at least clubs need to keep those kids for 3 years before loaning them.

Though the problem still remains that English sides just buy young kids, I mean real kids from all over the world to their academies in the hope of making profit out of them. They just need to keep those players for themselves for 3 years, then they are ready to be loaned.
 

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Felt it was and/or situation there.
Club grown over 21 years old are excluded and u21 are also excluded.

Let's see how the rule is properly announced and implemented by the federations.
 

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Gazzetta report Juve will try to sign Vlahovic in January by offering cash plus Kulusevski to Fiorentina. If this is true imo it means Inter have secured Scamacca. Else i can't explain the sudden u-turn from Juve.

well, two days ago Carnevali said many clubs from abroad are after Scamacca ;)
 

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Gazzetta report Juve will try to sign Vlahovic in January by offering cash plus Kulusevski to Fiorentina. If this is true imo it means Inter have secured Scamacca. Else i can't explain the sudden u-turn from Juve.
What sudden U-turn? They have always been targeting Vlahovic as #1. Temoporary options are thin/expensive in January, so they would love to make the move now.

Meanwhile Fiorentina director Joe Barone denies the club has received an offer from Juventus for Dusan Vlahovic.

La Gazzetta dello Sport newspaper reported today that the Bianconeri are ready to place a €35m bid for Vlahovic, adding Dejan Kulusevski to the deal.

However, Baron has denied that La Viola has received an offer from Turin.

“We didn’t receive any offer from Juventus and we don’t know what the player wants to do. He must inform us sooner or later.”
Media games from juBentus it seems ;)

PS: Idea Diego Costa won`t be possible either, Romano just confirmed that Corinthians are pushing to complete the signing of Diego Costa in the next hours. Verbal agreement now closer - still waiting for last details and final answer from Brazilian striker who's now free agent.
 

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Sky Sport Italia: Torino are currently in pole position to secure Nandez’s services in January and talks between the two clubs are at an advanced stage.

At the same time, Cagliari are interested in Daniele Baselli. The former Atalanta midfielder sees his contract expire at the end of the season and according to multiple reports, he is close to joining the Sardinians.
 
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