Southampton - Inter (3 Nov 16) [2-1]

Man of the Match

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Andover Saint

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Harpsabu, thanks for your response. We pride ourselves on being a bit different to other teams and have had both good and bad times. If you want a new manager - Roy Hodgson is free (only joking!). Maybe a good young Italian manager is what Inter need, someone to shake things up a bit. Also someone who will play more Italian players who might bring some heart to the team.

I think VVD is a born leader and therefore comes across as a bit arrogant - this would have been worse at Celtic, where they have no real domestic competition at the same level - but I think that he's a real star for Saints, especially as he is consistent.

I hope you get better this season (especially against Sparta and Hapoel!) - over the two games I have sometimes felt it was like watching an aging lion trying to keep going. Someone on here mentioned relegation - it is not the worst thing in the world. If it is a wake up call then who knows, it may be the best thing to happen.

Good luck against Crotone at the weekend

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they are great businessmen but when it comes to football they are extremely naif. they think they can simply buy their way to the top but still haven't realized that the world of football is full of people more than ready to take advantage of them, first and foremost their privileged "advisor", kia jorabchian or whatever that crook is called. i guess it will take a couple of years of being fucked by pretty much everyone before they become a bit smarter.

Firmino - also thanks.

One thing I didn't say is that I believe it's time for fans to get their teams back. I wish people would support their own local teams in whatever the country and work to improve them. I don't like US or Asian ownership or the globalisation of the fan base - there's no connection to the team. My father supported Southampton, I support Southampton and my son supports Southampton - we do it whatever the results. When Southampton nearly went out of business I couldn't even dream of supporting anyone else. Sure, I look out for results of teams in other countries who I follow for various reasons but support them - no! There's a difference between supporters (stupid people like me, who support whatever happens) and fans (those who watch on TV, celebrate the successes and wear the shirt because it's a fashion statement). Without supporters our teams die or just become plastic imitations.
 

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how about we lost the game vs Cagliari with Handa own goal, and we lost to Atalanta with Santon making penalty?

We would both draw that game. And youre not telling me that a draw against South (away!) is not better then a draw against Cagliari home???
 

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We would both draw that game. And youre not telling me that a draw against South (away!) is not better then a draw against Cagliari home???

That's not what you were asked though..
 

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He was talking like it makes no diffrence if we loose against Cagliari or against South away
 

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You were implying that the only reason we lost against Southampton was because of a defensive mistake, but never used that excuse for our other makes, even though you could make the same argument.

Anyway, the reason we have so many defensive mistake, other than our defenders being crap, is that fact that we invite so much pressure. You mentioned our game plan for this game was good, although I disagree. We pretty much invited pressure and conceded many chances, meaning it was only time before we conceded.
 

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You were implying that the only reason we lost against Southampton was because of a defensive mistake, but never used that excuse for our other makes, even though you could make the same argument.

Anyway, the reason we have so many defensive mistake, other than our defenders being crap, is that fact that we invite so much pressure. You mentioned our game plan for this game was good, although I disagree. We pretty much invited pressure and conceded many chances, meaning it was only time before we conceded.

Pressure, why do our players seem so incapable of handling it? They invite pressure as you say, then they crumble, make a mistake and concede. Its insane!
 

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He was talking like it makes no diffrence if we loose against Cagliari or against South away

No he was saying that players mistakes cost us those games too.


You're basically trying to argue that we're some how better off now than under Frank.. Your posts yesterday.


Before the game
really pathetic what some people here think. Like De Boer is god or something. He was the first fucking problem of this team. Im not saying that we win today 100% because now player gets motivation again. So i dont know what happens BUT im sure that things will change without that stupid guy.

Your original response to putting the blame on the players
As much as people want to blame FDB, the players are just as much to blame. If they aren't fired up after helping Frank get fired, they can go fuck themselves. Fucking self righteous DIVA'S.
Nah.

De boer has this boring tiki taka holding the ball till someone gets sleepy and we can pass easly trough. And after some minutes hes 4231 gets to a 4-0--5-1:eek:blivious:

And then after the game
Yes... considering that Atalanta game or Sampdoria, it was good. Specialy from the tactical side, thats how you need to play away against a good team. Without that errors we would easily won i think. But its also true that we dont tryed much to score the second goal or even react. But yes, this was better then our last 3-4 games and remember we played against a decent team, not Atalanta, Samp or fucking Cagliari at home!!!!!!!

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So what is it then? Are players mistakes only a thing when they support your argument? If getting dominated in all aspects of the game and having a single shot on target constitutes a good performance to you then I'm stunned. We got one lucky bounce all game and that was basically it. That summed up the entirety of Inter's attack yesterday, and with more men behind the ball we were still shit defensively. and still invited Southampton to bombard us with shots and opportunities but not before the quality of our defense shined through and we gifted them the game, just as we had done earlier in the season on multiple occasions.

The first thing we did yesterday was play the ball back to Ranocchia so he could launch it into the stands and our tactical gameplan went downhill from there.
 
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Inter this season:

Handanovic - - - - - - - - - - - Icardi.
 

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Pressure, why do our players seem so incapable of handling it? They invite pressure as you say, then they crumble, make a mistake and concede. Its insane!

I agree with that, but at the same time, I'm not a fan of a style of play that constantly invites pressure, because there is more chance of a mess-up, and if you do, it makes it more difficult to get back in the game.

Even a team who is much better defensively (Juventus) did the same against Lyon, and even almost lost in the last second of the game. I feel that football is evolving and the old 'Italian' style does not work as well.

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Pressure, why do our players seem so incapable of handling it? They invite pressure as you say, then they crumble, make a mistake and concede. Its insane!

I agree with that, but at the same time, I'm not a fan of a style of play that constantly invites pressure, because there is more chance of a mess-up, and if you do, it makes it more difficult to get back in the game.

Even a team who is much better defensively (Juventus) did the same against Lyon, and even almost lost in the last second of the game. I feel that football is evolving and the old 'Italian' style does not work as well.
 

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So what is it then? Are players mistakes only a thing when they support your argument? If getting dominated in all aspects of the game and having a single shot on target constitutes a good performance to you then I'm stunned. We got one lucky bounce all game and that was basically it. That summed up the entirety of Inter's attack yesterday, and with more men behind the ball we were still shit defensively. and still invited Southampton to bombard us with shots and opportunities but not before the quality of our defense shined through and we gifted them the game, just as we had done earlier in the season on multiple occasions.

The first thing we did yesterday was play the ball back to Ranocchia so he could launch it into the stands and our tactical gameplan went downhill from there.

So getting dominanted, making 3-4 shots on goal but also get 100 on our goal is better? I Prefer that we start improving starting from our defend where we suck every year, special with de boer it was a disaster. Yesterday at last we had 60 minutes of decent defending. We need to learn building a game when we attack.

So what youre talking about is like after the 60.Minute where we got a blackout. But if Inter would play like in the first half, we would win that game.
 

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One thing I didn't say is that I believe it's time for fans to get their teams back. I wish people would support their own local teams in whatever the country and work to improve them.

Well this is awkward. Internazionale, the hint is in the name, we pride ourselves in supporting a club that promotes (only in theory though, sadly) globalization and the history of the club and how it was established is something that backs it up.

"Brothers of the world."

I understand your point and how supporting a local club means so much more, one of the big reasons why I admire Atletic Bilbao is how they only promote players from their region. But not all of us are blessed with good, well-functioning leagues (divisions), governing authorities and comparatively speaking, a fair setting in which to compete in.

Welcome to the forum.
 

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So getting dominanted, making 3-4 shots on goal but also get 100 on our goal is better?
Uhh.. that's exactly what happened yesterday.

We had 3 shots total yesterday. Which is the lowest number we've had all season. Southampton had 16, which is the highest number of shots against us all season.


I Prefer that we start improving starting from our defend where we suck every year, special with de boer it was a disaster. Yesterday at last we had 60 minutes of decent defending. We need to learn building a game when we attack.
Keep telling yourself that bud. We were shit defensively through out the entire game. It wasn't a matter of if they were going to score but when and how many. The fact that it took them 60 minutes to do so is solely do to the fact that we didn't even try to attack.

We fielded a far more defensively oriented team and played far more defensively than we ever did under Frank and were worse defensively than we ever were under Frank and in addition to that we were shit offensively.

So what youre talking about is like after the 60.Minute where we got a blackout. But if Inter would play like in the first half, we would win that game.
:lol: lucky goals and 9 men behind the ball, get taught how to play football and having no answer for when the team falls behind. Definitely the mark of every good team. :palm:
 

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Would you feck off! that's bull because they never looked like scoring in the first half unlike at the Meazza where they should have been three up at halftime. I'm not defending the performance - we crumbled abjectly second half - but please don't talk bull just to ram home a point. It was a good first half under the circumstances. If we had held them off & knicked another, you'd be all raving about are clinical, professional performance.
 

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I have to say, I only seen the first half yesterday, but we looked a lot more defensively secure in that half. They got shots but they weren't really ever close to scoring (beside the penalty obviously). We seemed a lot more comfortable defensively. The commentators said so as well, said that you could see it was a different inter side than the first game who did not seem interested whatsoever. It was former player Jenas who said you can tell by players body language.

Ofcourse, I never seen the second half so I can't comment about that.
 

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Yes, thats the diffrence. They shot they took was poor and not dangerous. Then the second half we conceded more also because of fuck ups but not because we played to offensive like with De Boer.

I also agree that the home game with De Boer we was lucky. Yesterday it was a deserved 2-1, the home game shoulded and like 4-1 or even 5-1 (but i doubt that after 3 goals they would continue to attack, like yesterday)
 

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Would you feck off! that's bull because they never looked like scoring in the first half unlike at the Meazza where they should have been three up at halftime. I'm not defending the performance - we crumbled abjectly second half - but please don't talk bull just to ram home a point. It was a good first half under the circumstances.

Our plan yesterday was defend-defend-defend and hope to get lucky for a counter. If that's your thing then cool. But I'd rather us lose trying to play football than lose, like fucking losers.


If we had held them off & knicked another, you'd be all raving about are clinical, professional performance.
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That's how things work now?

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Either way its foolish to even discuss tactics now, which is why I'm dumbfounded as to -why Duccio would even bring it up or even try to compare this variation of Inter to Frank's, much less call it better, when it was in fact the worst we've been statistically all season. Ifs don't change that and they work both ways.
 

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I think that was only our first game. Remember the first game with De Boer against Chievo. OK, he played 352 but still our perfomance looked scary. And that 1-1 against Palermo was also :yao2:
 
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