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[Adriano@10]

always smth new


These tariffs man.. half my investments are US based.. is this how it ends?

These tariffs are just another confirmation that it s a cabinet full of clowns... Like seriously how can one be this fucken incompetent anybody ever in a econ 101 class knows more than the guys doing US econ policy it s ridiculose... Like they based em entierly on trde surplus like a bunch of 5 yer olds with 0 understanding of econ also tariffs ofcourse will also be applied to uninhabited islands...
Who ever still supports this cause of the economy is just fucken clown grifter with a personal agenda

Also tesla rallying on god awful q1 numbers is almost as insane as the Tariffs.... Thank God trump saved my puts with his tariffs...

It s all so insane that the whole newsmax story is just a side note....

 

[Barellielo]

These tariffs are just another confirmation that it s a cabinet full of clowns... Like seriously how can one be this fucken incompetent anybody ever in a econ 101 class knows more than the guys doing US econ policy it s ridiculose... Like they based em entierly on trde surplus like a bunch of 5 yer olds with 0 understanding of econ also tariffs ofcourse will also be applied to uninhabited islands...
Who ever still supports this cause of the economy is just fucken clown grifter with a personal agenda

Also tesla rallying on god awful q1 numbers is almost as insane as the Tariffs.... Thank God trump saved my puts with his tariffs...

It s all so insane that the whole newsmax story is just a side note....

I mean people gave him benefit of doubt.. guy was always insane

China retaliates

 

[Adriano@10]

I mean people gave him benefit of doubt.. guy was always insane

China retaliates

Which is a thing i never understand everything he says is unhinged... and experts were like nah he aint gonna do that...
Anyways at least it s easy to spot the grifters like bill Ackman who still find excuses for this absolute bonkers strategy.

Only thing this does is push the world towards china..

 

[crzdcolombian]

Which is a thing i never understand everything he says is unhinged... and experts were like nah he aint gonna do that...
Anyways at least it s easy to spot the grifters like bill Ackman who still find excuses for this absolute bonkers strategy.

Only thing this does is push the world towards china..

I've been to china multiple times. It's way better than the US in pretty much every aspect. I get the things they do/have done can not be done here because it would just cost to much. It's a country poorer than Guatemala that got 10 trillion dollars and spent at least 5-6 trillion of it in the last 20-30 years making it a way better place. With smart leaders. My dad worked for ecopetrol in Colombia 30 years ago. Colombia has yet to figure out how to make oil into fking gas !!! Give some dude a blank check, all the hottest 18 year old chicks in the region..... and go dude Make this happen. Venezuela even worst..... they have one of the biggest reserves in the world.... were one of the richest countries in the 80s never learned to make gasoline and now are in total chaos. China on the other hand goes hey lets do a joint venture so you can teach us how to do shit then we will do it better.

I work in investments and he has a lot of fans...... like they didnt think it would happen. They think he just says stuff to make liberals upset so he can focus on other things while we cry haha.

The other funny thing is at least in the US when he does this stuff it doesnt mention the after math like every time he does something to latin america. China comes in an hour later and goes hey guys lets make an even better deal than the one that US was screwing you guys on.

they dont see that or think about it. They just go hey WOW our president is a badass.

I am not sure what his goal is. Does he want us to be isolationist? We don't make food or pretty much anything......

The tariffs seems like a value added tax. Not sure if he doing it just to get rid of income taxes. Jobs are not coming back. It cost too much to make anything in the US and the dollar just doesnt buy you anything. So if he trying to tank the value of USD so people can buy more stuff eventually.... I just so confused with what Trump is trying to do.

I dont think he is a smart guy nor any of his lackeys but I really doubt he trying to make everyone hate the US and just completely destroy our economy. He has to have a master plan.... but seems like it's going to blow up in everyone's face.

 

[ADRossi]

I actually disagree. I think he wants to return the entire manufacturing base to America. There's probably a path to it working, but you're talking about a long-term period of negative economic growth. It won't work because the GOP will just get voted out before it is actually allowed to play out. People are not patient enough and this isn't a centrally planned economy.

The "ultimate" goal seems to be:

-Bring manufacturing back to America. This leads to an increase in prices, but also leads to an increase in wages for Americans.
-Charge tariffs to all countries, because being able to participate in the American economy is a privilege that you should be charged a fee for.
-Eliminate income taxes, because they'll be replaced by the tariff income earned by America.

Of course, how you accomplish all this without sending inflation through the roof is anyone's guess.

I don't hate any of this in theory, but like I said, Americans do not have the patience to let a giant economic experiment play out over the course of 10-20 years. This looks better on a whiteboard that it will work in reality.

 

[crzdcolombian]

issue with the US is not wages. I make 180k... my cousin who lives in Colombia and makes 50k has 10x the spending power I have. He doesn't get taxed up the ass like I do. Then triple taxed on everything. He has a fking maid, he can take long weekend trips to Europe or Saudi Arabia with his wife. The cost of living in the US is way too fking high

Brining back manufacturing isnt going to work like you said will take 10 years. He will be dead by them he isnt making 90.... and we will have 2 new presidents. These jobs also won't be high paying because they need to compete with the rest of the world. The same guys who are going bring back the jobs are the same people saying Americans are too stupid to work top paying jobs and that is why they need H1 Visa people. Who I hired a few. Reason employers like them is They get treated like slaves, threaten with being fired to work more hours/make less money. If they do get fired they have 1 month to find a job or they get deported.

All he doing is getting the whole world to turn on the US and into Chinas arms. US needs to go back to making the best products not blocking out products. In china they had like 15 phone companies that all had sick phones for 200-300 bucks. Apple like na I want a 30% mark up on everything I sell because I am a monopoly.

I just went to ford to test drive the Mustang EV.... fking 60k with employee pricing !!! It's not an Audi or a BMW. WTF is it more expensive than a Tesla. It pretty much copied the model Y in pretty much every way

 

[brehme1989]

Economics thread guys.


In this one, we just cry unless we shorted the market.

 

[Barellielo]

Which is a thing i never understand everything he says is unhinged... and experts were like nah he aint gonna do that...
Anyways at least it s easy to spot the grifters like bill Ackman who still find excuses for this absolute bonkers strategy.

Only thing this does is push the world towards china..

It has already started the 8d chess. These guys are absolute fucking idiots.

 

[Barellielo]

Economics thread guys.


In this one, we just cry unless we shorted the market.

I literally maxed out my yearly ISA when s&p was -10%, now its -20%. So even after buying the dip, it keeps dipping

 

[Barellielo]

Stocks limit down tommorrow hahah

 

[brehme1989]

China fucked
Europe fucked

US markets will get fucked later today too

 

[crzdcolombian]

China fucked
Europe fucked

US markets will get fucked later today too

already is.... went down like 5% per day since the announcement. I was looking to buy more apple but even being down 40 its still more than prior year... some stuff is just still crazy over valued

 

[Adriano@10]

I literally maxed out my yearly ISA when s&p was -10%, now its -20%. So even after buying the dip, it keeps dipping

Why on earth would you buy the dip with idiots in charge who are hell bent on crashing the economy and apparently have no grasp of how it works?

Side note US futures rebounding still down though...
Also slightly disappointed reverse cramer.did not work today and keep in mind that on post on truth social could change everything

 

[.h.]

Why on earth would you buy the dip with idiots in charge who are hell bent on crashing the economy and apparently have no grasp of how it works?

Side note US futures rebounding still down though...
Also slightly disappointed reverse cramer.did not work today and keep in mind that on post on truth social could change everything

zoom out bro, unless you think its the end of times, stuff will go back up (esp if you're using an index tracker).

 

[crzdcolombian]

Why on earth would you buy the dip with idiots in charge who are hell bent on crashing the economy and apparently have no grasp of how it works?

Side note US futures rebounding still down though...
Also slightly disappointed reverse cramer.did not work today and keep in mind that on post on truth social could change everything

man glad I have a ton of money in the sidelines in cash....... because yea... when I didnt sell lost a ton.

You can't time that market. At some point it will start rebounding and you'll miss it. Issue is even with how much its crashed in 2 days. It's still more than it was last year for most companies you'd want to invest in.

its not the best way to pick stocks but I tend to look at the 52 week and 5 year high lows for companies I am interested in. Like I said pretty much none are lower than 52 week average. Apple went down $40 in 2 days and still higher than same time last year

 

[Adriano@10]

zoom out bro, unless you think its the end of times, stuff will go back up (esp if you're using an index tracker).

What has any of this to do with what i said bro? There also was not rush to buy..

man glad I have a ton of money in the sidelines in cash....... because yea... when I didnt sell lost a ton.

You can't time that market. At some point it will start rebounding and you'll miss it. Issue is even with how much its crashed in 2 days. It's still more than it was last year for most companies you'd want to invest in.

its not the best way to pick stocks but I tend to look at the 52 week and 5 year high lows for companies I am interested in. Like I said pretty much none are lower than 52 week average. Apple went down $40 in 2 days and still higher than same time last year

Thats the point... Only argument to jump in now is cause Trump could back track any time

 

[Adriano@10]

When bear trap is my only question looked alot like it yesterday before moar tariffs... maybe today
ALso i hate this fucken trader mindset that is needed to maneuver these markets...

 

[Adriano@10]

Here comes the 90 day pause and the face ripper

LOL and he raises them to 125% on china... what the actual fuck

 

[Barellielo]

Lmao lets goo

 

[brehme1989]

No one can argue that this isn't exciting in any form.

I am losing money that could buy me a decent apartment with all this nonsense but for fuck's sake, it's borderline hilarious how random this feels at times.