The Italian player debate

[Burgnich]

Indeed, we should get lesser players just because they are italian.

/sarcasm

We should offer wage raise for Jonathan, Chivu and Silvestre. 5 year deals 4 millions a year?

Yeah, and sell Bardi, Bianchetti, Caldirola, Pasa, Benassi, Duncan for 0,1 M each.....

 

[Sassuolu]

Toninu + Ojap, you two are dreaming of 11 chinese or maltese starting for Inter, others do not want this to happen. Deal with it. Your opinions means less than others. :troll:

ok, your opinions are not worthless, but not any better than others.

I wanna see many italians in Inter. Pronto.
(or players from Primavera team)

Yes, I would also like to see more homegrown players in the team, of course. But these young players aren't only Italians, last I checked Duncan, Livaja and Olsen were not Italian.

 

[pencilpal]

We should offer wage raise for Jonathan, Chivu and Silvestre. 5 year deals 4 millions a year?

Yeah, and sell Bardi, Bianchetti, Caldirola, Pasa, Benassi, Duncan for 0,1 M each.....

That was never said. In fact, those three should go.

He was just confronting the fact that many members on the forum have unnecessary biases towards certain nationalities, e.g. in fielding a largely italian squad.

Tbh that's a stupid idea.
We should field a squad that can win.

And go look up what Internazionale means as a club, why it was founded.

 

[Burgnich]

Yes, I would also like to see more homegrown players in the team, of course. But these young players aren't only Italians, last I checked Duncan, Livaja and Olsen were not Italian.

Too bad they are not italians :trolldad: , but they are from Primaveras. That is something.

But Benassi, Pasa, Bianchetti, Caldirola and Bardi are italians. This must be sad to hear for you. What are you gonna do now?

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That was never said. In fact, those three should go.

He was just confronting the fact that many members on the forum have unnecessary biases towards certain nationalities, e.g. in fielding a largely italian squad.

Tbh that's a stupid idea.
We should field a squad that can win.

And go look up what Internazionale means as a club, why it was founded.

Stupid? not at all.

Winning? that is the plan. Winning serie a, coppa, champions league. Everything. And to do this I believe Inter gonna need more italians in the squad. Why? because of the economy, because of FFP. The FFP is forcing Inter to rethink the strategy. Income has decreased, expenses must be cut. To do this the Primavera is the way to go. You see. It's a plan backing my thoughts, not just random italian-ranting.

Take a look at Inter FAN base, and you'll see that Kim Jung-Il is not the god of Curva Nord.

Since Inter fans are right-wingers you should accept the fact that many do not advocate 'multiculturalism'.

 

[Bluenine]

Inter wouldn't have won any Scudetti if not for Calciopoli

I expect Juve fans to say shit like that, or idiots who don't know shit, but I hate it when an Inter fan says this. Dude, Juve won many scudetti due to calciopoli, a systematic influencing of referees. Unfortunately, the way the legal system works, Juve only got punished for the number of calls between their directors and referees, and not for the content of those calls or the consequence of those calls - anyone who has read some of those crazy "conversations" and looked at what happened in subsequent games *knows* what was happening, even if it may be quite impossible to prove it legally. There is a reason why Moggi got banned for life.

Sure, all Serie A teams benefited from Juve's relegation. Inter made the best of it, specially with the "scudetto of honesty" or whatever. But I wonder how many Scudetti we would have won if it weren't for calciopoli.... 1998? 2002? I guess we will never know.

Inter were the VICTIMS of calciopoli, never EVER forget that.

 

[ManchesterInterista]

Vasilios you have Recoba as your profile pic, the best example of an overpaid mercenary who applied minimal effort for the Inter shirt or fans, yet became a very rich man due to Moratti's naive and unjustified generosity. I want Inter to detach from that idiocy in future.

I don't want a team full of Italians, but around 5 or 6 of the starting 11 is achievable and conducive for success, as Milan and Juventus have proved. One of my proudest moments as an Inter fan was watching Materazzi and Grosso(who had agreed to join Inter) star in the World Cup final of 06.

According to certain experts on this thread, Daniele De Rossi, an Italian desperate to get out of Roma who is available for as little as €12m is a naive and impossible transfer suggestion for Inter, yet Ojap believes we can realistically attain Paulinho, who's agreed to join Spurs for €18m and pair him with Gustavo, currently playing for the best team in Europe, and who'd cost at least the same as Paulinho. What kind of people are we dealing with here?!
I can't wait for Nocerino to score the winner against Juve next season and see how certain people on this forum react.

 

[pencilpal]

Winning? that is the plan. Winning serie a, coppa, champions league. Everything. And to do this I believe Inter gonna need more italians in the squad. Why? because of the economy, because of FFP. The FFP is forcing Inter to rethink the strategy. Income has decreased, expenses must be cut. To do this the Primavera is the way to go. You see. It's a plan backing my thoughts, not just random italian-ranting.
Since Inter fans are right-wingers you should accept the fact that many do not advocate 'multiculturalism'.

Of course it is good to integrate Primavera players into the squad, but if they are not ready, if they haven't gotten the necessary physical development, you can't expect anything. Likely we'll be outmuscled and pushed down into relegation zone if we force them into the squad.

And why do the players we put into the squad from the Primavera have to be Italian? How does ethnicity in any way relate to footballing ability? I respect your economic argument, but your ethnic one is simply misguided and idiotic (or I'm just understanding your comments wrong, because it's not entirely clear).

Since you didn't do your research, allow me to do it for you:

Internazionale was founded against racism, to make a stand against the nationalists at Milan. It entirely advocates for multiculturalism as a club, and as a result has been dubbed a non-Italian club by the Italian media.

What this club means has nothing to do with the extremist ultras now.

 

[Pimpin]

we will not see a 1-2 troll tandem as good as this one.. no one beats hamsun tho..


could these2 be hamsun?

 

[Mino]

"It will be born here, at the 'Orologio' restaurant, meeting place of artists and it will be always a team of great talent. On this splendid night its colours will be given: the black and the blue with a golden background of the stars. It will be called Internazionale, because we are brothers of the world. "

inter is a sublime idea and i'm proud to belong to this "grande" club
even without trophies i would support it
ideas like this and jacque fresco's will be remembred in the future of the existence in the whole universe .
and of course i like the italian football culture and players , but we can't sign de rossi or pirlo for the moment .

 

[Shaun]

According to certain experts on this thread, Daniele De Rossi, an Italian desperate to get out of Roma who is available for as little as €12m is a naive and impossible transfer suggestion for Inter, yet Ojap believes we can realistically attain Paulinho, who's agreed to join Spurs for €18m and pair him with Gustavo, currently playing for the best team in Europe, and who'd cost at least the same as Paulinho. What kind of people are we dealing with here?!
I can't wait for Nocerino to score the winner against Juve next season and see how certain people on this forum react.

Available for 12m to teams that are not Italian, maybe, but you're still pulling the figure from your ass.

As for the debate, no, Italian players are not important, but players that come up through our youth system should though. Whether they are Italian or Ghanaian or whatever

 

[Kakaroto]

we will not see a 1-2 troll tandem as good as this one.. no one beats hamsun tho..


could these2 be hamsun?

Was thinking about this too. Same kind of arguments, Inter ultras are fascists.

 

[Bluenine]

I wanna see many italians in Inter. Pronto.

I think we have more than enough Italians at Inter: Moratti. Branca. Ausilio. Fassone. Combi. And now Mazzarri.

Maybe we should get rid of a few Italians

 

[Burgnich]

Of course it is good to integrate Primavera players into the squad, but if they are not ready, if they haven't gotten the necessary physical development, you can't expect anything. Likely we'll be outmuscled and pushed down into relegation zone if we force them into the squad.

And why do the players we put into the squad from the Primavera have to be Italian? How does ethnicity in any way relate to footballing ability? I respect your economic argument, but your ethnic one is simply misguided and idiotic (or I'm just understanding your comments wrong, because it's not entirely clear).

Since you didn't do your research, allow me to do it for you:

Internazionale was founded against racism, to make a stand against the nationalists at Milan. It entirely advocates for multiculturalism as a club, and as a result has been dubbed a non-Italian club by the Italian media.

What this club means has nothing to do with the extremist ultras now.

So now you think you are Moratti?

Inter = the fans.
Inter=not the hobos founding Inter. These ppl drank beer and smoked cigarettes while playing football for fun. They would have shut down Inter the day Italy joined EU. That day the founders would have no more reasons to keep the club alive.
BBilan was founded as a cricket club. I don't see Balotelli and El Shaarawy running around on pitch with a cricket-bat in hand.

You mentioned it...I highlighted the problem in red. Howcome close to all youth players getting ditched? Why is it 100 times harder for youth players to make it in Inter compared to other top clubs? The Inter squad is weaker than most other top clubs, because thruth told, Inter is no top club right now. Still it is close to impossible for youths to make it in Inter. This is disgraceful.

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I did not say all primaveras have to be italians, but since Inter is a club from Milano, it's just common sence to expect italian youths to climb the youth system. You might rant as much you want about Milito and Zanetti, but nothing is more fantastic to see real players of Milano make it in their own town. That is a victory itself. Not only for Inter, but all top clubs. To develop a native from their own city into a real star player is a victory for any club (and country too if he makes it to the NT)

And I am not wishing for 11 italians in the st 11. I am more than happy just to see 3-4, well right now I am happy just to see more than 1 in the starting 11.


Interista809.
Some arguement. You actually think Inter fans are letting themselves getting dictated by anyone?

Most Inter Milan fans are fans due to territorial love, and patriotic rivalry against AC Milan.

Most Inter Milan fans are middle-class right-wingers. I would say 100 % of these care less about underground-hobos living 100 years ago.

 

[Sassuolu]

The way these two post at the same time and jerk each other off kinda shows that they are linked somehow.

I don't see these right wing fans contesting too many of our foreigners tbh, I don't see boos for non-Italians who can contribute to the team. What does politics (and a despicable version of it) have to do with a football team. And plus there are millions of Inter fans across the world, so unless you can back up you claims with some empirical evidence I'm going to call it bullshit.

We should give young players more chances (regardless of their nationality that also means include Italian youth), but everyone should have an equal opportunity. This is football, quality is above nationality. This idea that having Italians will all of a sudden solve our problems is ridiculous, I remember Juventus starting eleven Italians in the 2010 season and still coming 8th. That is no knock on Italians but it is a knock on your argument.

Nationality isn't a factor, the important thing is building up homegrown youth, having the same system of play at all levels similar to Barcelona. They've managed to develop great Spanish players and also foreign players one of which is joining us soon i.e Icardi.