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But the Latino sector isnt really the focal point from a money perspective nor from an international relationship or PR perspective, if you buy into the theory that Saudi Arabia want to buy a club for diplomatic reasons basically.

The problem is the competition - and thats exactly some of the challenges that PSG see now. No one gives a fuck about the french league, and they're having to pay through their teeth to keep their stars there. Liverpool v City has been an extremely exciting title race, any (really) of the EPL's 4 clubs could win the CL in a good year, and you see big names vs big names every week

No one really cares about Barella vs Bonucci or Tonali, not in the same way that Kane vs Salah gets people excited
 

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also, re PSG, what true stars are they signing, really? They've got Mbappe and Neymar, but thats honeslty about it? Donna? Hakimi? Two guys who left ... Italy to join them

Their team isnt actually *that* good, its not like theyve taken any stars from a big club in the Premiership or La Liga except for Messi (who had loads of context around his move)... If they were poaching even top tier talent from 2nd tier clubs we could talk, but really, its not like people are turning down Liverpool/City/Tottenham/etc to join PSG. Donna might be the only real example of that, basically just throwing cash at them and paying WAY too much.

By number of games, their top 11 players of last season are:
Mbappe (domestic league)
Kimpembe (home grown)
Hakimi (obviously we all know)
Marquinhos (PSG for 9 years now, from Roma before)
Wijnaldum (Bosman from Liverpool)
Nuno Mendes (Sporting out on loan, 19 year old)
Danilo Pereira (from Portugal as well)
Kehrer (Schalke youth product that they paid a huge amount of money for)
Messi (obvious)
Gueye (ex-Everton/Villa)
Verratti


its not like its really a team of stars, truly?
 

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Really? Mbappe could have gone anywhere so did Hakimi and wijnaldum atleast pool really wanted to keep him.....
Same goes for donna....
Messi man which other player would give you more/better PR? Maybe cr7....
Not disagreeing that they have to spend over the top.......

Also they have three of the biggest stars in worldfootball in neymar messi and mbappe like what team has three bigger names? Better players maybe but bigger names?

I also do think that competition in italy is and will be better than in france.

Yes it wont reach PL standards but therfore you ll have to overspend in the EPL just to reach those top 4, it s gonna take time till you reach pool city and even chelsea level and manu is not gonna stay shitty forever.

Anyways i get your point i just dont think it s that obvious that a club like newcaste is a better investment than inter if winning and pr are the main goals.
Theres obviously pros and cons for both approaches.
 

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Anywhere? Hakimi's only offer, AFAIK, was PSG. Real didnt want to bring him back.

Who else would have signed a keeper like Donna? It was basically PSG or Juve, realistically.

As for Messi, we arent exactly talking top player in the world, 26 year old Messi. We're talking a 34, nearly 35 year old, who is too expensive (literally) for his existing club to keep him


Anyway, time will tell. Initially it was only Newcastle or no one, but it became a position where they could have bought both Newcastle or Inter, and the decision is obvious :D
 

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But there's also a reason why they arent doing it in Italy - they could throw money and try to win in Italy, but because its italy it will always make it a bit messier, whereas in the premiership (for example) theres much more free reign to penetrate into markets etc.

No one around the world is buying Barella or Bastoni jerseys, and stars in Italy dont stay in Italy for long for the most part, except for Italians.
Well, in England they let all crooks in.
In Italy the crooks decide which other crooks can join and they rarely enjoy sharing the spotlight.
 

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Well, in England they let all crooks in.
In Italy the crooks decide which other crooks can join and they rarely enjoy sharing the spotlight.
in italy they make them the prime minister :D

who needs a football club to launder money when you've got the whole country
 

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in italy they make them the prime minister :D

who needs a football club to launder money when you've got the whole country
There's only one prime minister. And one consigliere.

In PL they just received a heroine dealer as the 20th owner. One that they had approved despite being banned from engaging in activities relating to sports teams and was prohibited of attending games due to a variety of scandals.

Then we have this Abramovich sale who everyone talks about but no one bothered to ask where did all the funding that gave Chelsea 2 Champions Leagues came from.

The only legitimate owners of the main clubs there are the Glazers (Man Utd), Ford (Liverpool) and Soros' (silent?) (senior?) partner Lewis (Tottenham). I'd put Arsenal here as well but lots of that share % was owned by Usmanov initially.

Supporting corruption and claiming league supremacy (which hilariously isn't even justified) isn't my sort of thing.
 

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Anywhere? Hakimi's only offer, AFAIK, was PSG. Real didnt want to bring him back.

Who else would have signed a keeper like Donna? It was basically PSG or Juve, realistically.

As for Messi, we arent exactly talking top player in the world, 26 year old Messi. We're talking a 34, nearly 35 year old, who is too expensive (literally) for his existing club to keep him


Anyway, time will tell. Initially it was only Newcastle or no one, but it became a position where they could have bought both Newcastle or Inter, and the decision is obvious :D
Hakimi had a chelsea offer. Girlfriend preferred paris.
 

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Italy has gathered some American owners bit by bit in few years. AC Milan, Venezia, Roma, Fiorentina, Genoa, Bologna, Spezia, Parma and Atalanta the latest. There are probably more, but those are the biggest names.

Maybe this will bring the change eventually?
 

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PSG owned by a full-backing (state) company. Inter owned by a nearly bankrupt company. Of course PSG budget for windows always available.
 

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I suspect we will know more about their intention about the club after late in November or in December
 

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For me one of the loan deadlines is probably the key breaking point
 

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Well without making any political comment I think our fate is in the hands of where the Chinese political focus will be if they continue to focus inside with handling their business the club will be sold cuz the state will force it.
 

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Italy has gathered some American owners bit by bit in few years. AC Milan, Venezia, Roma, Fiorentina, Genoa, Bologna, Spezia, Parma and Atalanta the latest. There are probably more, but those are the biggest names.

Maybe this will bring the change eventually?
what change do you need, we are top dogs in a major league

INTER, AC, JUVE are top three

Napoli, Roma, Lazio next three

Finally Fiorentina, Torino, Sassoulo, Atalanta, thats half the league of competitive teams add some of these other names investing and thats one strong league.
 

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Red bull has 2 cl clubs, no?
No. RB does not own Leipzig. They are just sponzors. RB (RasenBallsport) Leipzig. RB letters are only coincidence. But, from yoday, RedBird owns 2 clubs: AC Milan and Toulouse. How that can be pissible?
 

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No. RB does not own Leipzig. They are just sponzors. RB (RasenBallsport) Leipzig. RB letters are only coincidence. But, from yoday, RedBird owns 2 clubs: AC Milan and Toulouse. How that can be pissible?
nothing to prevent ownership of multiple clubs, the chaallenge is if they both compete in europe together!
 

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No. RB does not own Leipzig. They are just sponzors. RB (RasenBallsport) Leipzig. RB letters are only coincidence. But, from yoday, RedBird owns 2 clubs: AC Milan and Toulouse. How that can be pissible?
Red Bull does own Leipzig though. Rasenball isn’t even a real word btw, would be translated to „lawnball“
 
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