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Also this:

He apparently tried buying man utd but that quickly failed and this response is probably referring to that.

I don't know, this dude kinda seems sketchy. His fortune is probably legit, but this smells like a thohir type deal, which is still better than what we have now but yeah...
 

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Should I tweet this dude some advice lmfao
 

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Yes, please.

Key one really is make sure you understand the fucking settlement agreement with UEFA, it will limit capital injections :D

Next advice is to look at the debt schedule and work out what you can and cant pay off

Then the game is all about sponsorship - can we get some good sponsors, that will determine the financial future of the club
 

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Should I tweet this dude some advice lmfao
The only genuine advice we can give him is: you're wasting your money, stay away.
 

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This guy just confirmed to Italian media he wants to invest in Italian football and he's interested in buying Inter. Either the guy is the biggest troll or this thing is very advanced
 

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This is him describing his multi-billion dollar fund. Doesn't sound too good, although it may be honest :lol:
In March we tabled a serious bid to buy Manchester United. That selling process has dragged on and has unfortunately not turned out the way we expected. We are a professional profit-oriented investment company who after careful due diligence make investments into assets we believe will meet our return targets. Manchester United at the price levels now discussed no longer does that.

We have turned our focus to some other big clubs, primarily in continental Europe, that have strong potential to provide investors with superior returns. We are are very bullish about the value we find in certain markets and believe we can invest in clubs that will provide great returns while at the same time providing the fans with superior entertainment” says Thomas Zilliacus.

The bolded parts are the problem. I know people will say that's the motivation of every owner investing his money, but you can at least try and sell some other side of the story.

He also calls for other investors to join his cause, which is also not a good sign.
 

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tbh that's good though, for us imho (potentially)

Making Inter to be profitable would be a massive milestep for us, and if we can achieve that, we'll increase the valuation of the club significantly. It also suggests, to me, that they're willing to spend money to drive revenue/profitability - if you're a "professional" investor, snapping up more sponsorship deals, investing in the stadium, and looking at boosting merchandising would be the easiest way to do it. Investing into a stadium would be, in principle, straight onto the balance sheet, so you'd get your money back from that on a transaction anyway. Increasing earnings would pay off rapidly in terms of the price per earnings/etc multipliers. There probably would be some cost reduction, but only the sort of thing we've all discussed anyway (Eg not renewing Dzeko, De Vrij, etc).

For someone trying to sell Inter for a profit, the single most important thing is boosting revenues - compromising on the level of the quality of football and dropping out of the CL would be the single worst thing that can happen to the owner.
 

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haha unless he builds us a stadium and some how gets better TV deal for Italy. I just don't see how he does the profitable portion of his goal
 

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haha unless he builds us a stadium and some how gets better TV deal for Italy. I just don't see how he does the profitable portion of his goal
A small amount of cost reduction, move us to a new stadium, and make CL QF a regular thing already makes us probably like +50mil a year profit at least.
 

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A small amount of cost reduction, move us to a new stadium, and make CL QF a regular thing already makes us probably like +50mil a year profit at least.

how much does a stadium cost + the years to make one. Unless he buys then San Siro and updates it's going to take a long time. Even then going to cost 400-1b+ to build or buy/update the stadium.

Until the TV deal thing is fixed Italian clubs are fk'd and will be a EPL/PSG feeder league. Our teams just have to be smarter about selling and wages. No way some random kid who done well for 6 games should be worth more than half our starters since they play at fking Porto.

only way to be profitable is sell everyone for 100m+ ( Barella, Bastoni, Lautaro, Onana) + 50m for Cahla + 30m for Dumfries. I mean we can keep some guys I guess but will still have to sell a star every season to make a profit.

Everyone else left + our loaned players still somehow get us to the QF of next champions league + top 4 finish. Half those guys are sold the following season for 2-3 years and magically still get decent results.
 

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how much does a stadium cost + the years to make one. Unless he buys then San Siro and updates it's going to take a long time. Even then going to cost 400-1b+ to build or buy/update the stadium.

Until the TV deal thing is fixed Italian clubs are fk'd and will be a EPL/PSG feeder league. Our teams just have to be smarter about selling and wages. No way some random kid who done well for 6 games should be worth more than half our starters since they play at fking Porto.

only way to be profitable is sell everyone for 100m+ ( Barella, Bastoni, Lautaro, Onana) + 50m for Cahla + 30m for Dumfries. I mean we can keep some guys I guess but will still have to sell a star every season to make a profit.

Everyone else left + our loaned players still somehow get us to the QF of next champions league + top 4 finish. Half those guys are sold the following season for 2-3 years and magically still get decent results.
Our half, if we go it with Milan, would be like 400-500mil. But it goes straight into the balance sheet, and if it generates an extra 50mil/season in revenue, the pay off time isnt actually so bad tbh.

RE sell everyone - its a false profit, because you'll probably go out of the next CL season, and then you'll lose 100m a year in baseline revenue.

Generating cash into your own pocket from a club (eg Glazers) is different to making a business more profitable and selling it for an increased valuation, but I'm sure yo uknow that already.
 

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I heard a bit from his background. He's just an attention seeker. Has been since the 80s. Took a break from that but is at it again apparently (Man United bid and now this). This is not real. I heard he can't be a relevant owner, not with the current rates. Doesn't have enough of his own money.

Sorry to burst this one, but it is what it is (@ChillBro).
 

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I heard a bit from his background. He's just an attention seeker. Has been since the 80s. Took a break from that but is at it again apparently (Man United bid and now this). This is not real. I heard he can't be a relevant owner, not with the current rates. Doesn't have enough of his own money.

Sorry to burst this one, but it is what it is (@ChillBro).
Looked like that, now we know
 

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I am not quite sure if our forum allows talking about political economy, which is basically about different lines between the state and market. Feel free to delete this post if needed.

China's lines are some where closer to the state, making the country a kind of state capitalism (if the lines are closer to the market, then you have a neoclassical model, auto-equilibrium market, so to speak, and if they are in the middle, we are talking about developmental regulatory models)

And Chinese state capitalism is not only about the state heavily regulated economic activities (both supply/demand) but depending on circumstances, 'crony capitalists', those who align their business with state purposes, have to contribute quite actively to specific state demands. My sister and her husband own a small factory in China, and recently, they are often 'politely' asked to donate money to their local government (often tens of thousands of dollars). And good lord, they have so many difficulties locating these expenses on the balance sheet.

This kind of practices has been escalating with Xi, who is speaking the old language of building a 'revolutionary' China (the rejuvenation rhetoric amidst the Taiwan crisis). And if my economic history is correct, a 'revolutionary China' would require a totalising 'national economy' (you can always google the Great Leap Forward).

The implication, from a political economic standpoint, is that money from a big crony capitalist like Sunning to Inter would be heavily monitored and repurposed. My sense is that our owner does not lack money to maintain the club, the problem is that they need good 'justification' to spend their money at Inter. How do they fit Inter in the larger scheme of things?
 
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