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[bubba zanetti]

What the fuck does his reputation have to do with his current level? By all measurable accounts he’s worse than Calhanoglu right now, and you having seen the one United match they won doesn’t change that.

You’re talking out of your ass - like always in order to belittle something Inter related - like always.

Worse then Hakan right now?!? LMAO! You are total football ignoramus. I'll leave you with that.

 

[ADRossi]

Next post that isn't about Suning is getting an infraction.

 

[satubito]

I thought China gave suning a deadline of Jan 1st to sell the club, i thought we would be selling sooner and hopefully investing this mercato

Chinese government wants all foreign businesses to be sold off by the end of the year. Knowing how these cunts continue to operate, that won't happen unless they get 1 B plus and that's not going to happen if we don't come away with hardware this season. I don't think Marotta and Inzaghi would stick around either having to sell our best players again next year to keep the team afloat.

 

[ADRossi]

Chinese government wants all foreign businesses to be sold off by the end of the year. Knowing how these cunts continue to operate, that won't happen unless they get 1 B plus and that's not going to happen if we don't come away with hardware this season. I don't think Marotta and Inzaghi would stick around either having to sell our best players again next year to keep the team afloat.

Not to sound rude, but what does this even mean? It's not realistic nor plausible for every Chinese company to divest themselves of foreign operations. Does this mean the CCP is making Frank Ning sell his stake in Pirelli? Is Li Shifu selling his stake in Volvo?

This claim seems like fake, made up internet fodder.

 

[Corrode]

Zhang will sell his Bugatti car soon?

 

[Adriano@10]

Chinese government wants all foreign businesses to be sold off by the end of the year. Knowing how these cunts continue to operate, that won't happen unless they get 1 B plus and that's not going to happen if we don't come away with hardware this season. I don't think Marotta and Inzaghi would stick around either having to sell our best players again next year to keep the team afloat.

Sorry but this is BS... None such order has been given as it would frankly be very stupid... Why would the CCP want profitable foreign businesses owned by chinese nationals to be sold? Quite the opposite is the case. They want to limit capital outflows from china and they are clamping down on what they deem to be frivoulous spending (Sports club) so unless it s a cash generating business or a stratigicaly important one the CCP does not want their people to invest money abroad.
The other thing that IMHO is BS is suning not following CCP orders, if the CCP tells em sell Inter by this date then inter will be sold by that very date. Just look at what recently happened to Billionairs in china that did not go along with the CCP....
Not obeying the CCP would literally be the worst thing the Zhangs could do.

Zhang will sell his Bugatti car soon?

It s a freaking PAGANI people

 

[.h.]

AIUI there was something in response to the Russian situation - I think it was the rate at which russian assets were seized or sanctioned internationally that flagged a bit of a concern?

 

[Darth_Ausilio]

Steven has been generously sharing some ideas on how we can further motivate ourselves, to achieve our targets.

I suggested we start with the youth team, as this year plusvalenza has not met the target set by our central committee.

 

[forzainter257]

Is this true?

 

[Corrode]

probably 60% Moratti, 20% Thohir, 20% zhang/Suning

 

[.h.]

IIRC its more like 15-20% each Thohir/Moratti, the rest Suning

 

[forzainter257]

more than 500M injected.
around 300M spent for acquisition.
They are rightly asking for 1B then.

 

[Adriano@10]

more than 500M injected.
around 300M spent for acquisition.
They are rightly asking for 1B then.

Thats not how this works though....

 

[forzainter257]

Thats not how this works though....

what do you mean exactly?

If you are implying that there should be some 5-year projection with a time value, discounted rate implemented, or some VC methods then yeah, it's not how it works. There is much information I'm ignoring like current debts or intangible assets, marketing potential and etc.

It's just quick math given how Zhangs want to get out of football...

 

[Adriano@10]

what do you mean exactly?

If you are implying that there should be some 5-year projection with a time value, discounted rate implemented, or some VC methods then yeah, it's not how it works. There is much information I'm ignoring like current debts or intangible assets, marketing potential and etc.

It's just quick math given how Zhangs want to get out of football...

I mean just cause you threw a lot of money at an asset that in itselfe does not make the asset valuable.....

If i convert 10$ worth of food into shit through digesting it it does not entitle me to sell said shit for 10$....
As in the output of your investments is a lot more important to valuing the asset then the input...

 

[forzainter257]

I mean just cause you threw a lot of money at an asset that in itselfe does not make the asset valuable.....

If i convert 10$ worth of food into shit through digesting it it does not entitle me to sell said shit for 10$....
As in the output of your investments is a lot more important to valuing the asset then the input...

If that was Moratti throwing money, I would implement this very basic logic you are trying to deliver to me as if I was some school kid. But this is Suning, they invested a lot of money to make value for the asset in the first place.

 

[ADRossi]

If that was Moratti throwing money, I would implement this very basic logic you are trying to deliver to me as if I was some school kid. But this is Suning, they invested a lot of money to make value for the asset in the first place.

What have Suning done to make this asset worth $1B? They've managed to ruin our commercial revenues (again) after an initial positive run. They haven't made any progress on constructing a stadium. The thing investors care about - reliable, recurring revenue streams - don't exist.

Just because they poorly spent close to a billion dollars doesn't mean they deserve sympathy. It was their own doing.

 

[brehme1989]

If that was Moratti throwing money, I would implement this very basic logic you are trying to deliver to me as if I was some school kid. But this is Suning, they invested a lot of money to make value for the asset in the first place.

He's not trying to deliver some logic to you. He's describing the situation of Inter under Suning.

 

[forzainter257]

What have Suning down to make this asset worth $1B? They've managed to ruin our commercial revenues (again) after an initial positive run. They haven't made any progress on constructing a stadium. The thing investors care about - reliable, recurring revenue streams - don't exist.

Just because they poorly spent close to a billion dollars doesn't mean they deserve sympathy. It was their own doing.

Where did I say they deserve sympathy? I want them to fuck off asap. I just mentioned that I kind of get why they ask for 1B. Will they eventually get that money? I don't know, maybe less, maybe more. But the fact is, anyone who invests will always try to break even at least. That's what I tried to mention by using quick math. If that made you guys uncomfortable, sorry then.

 

[forzainter257]

He's not trying to deliver some logic to you. He's describing the situation of Inter under Suning.

yes and no. they have been trying their best to find a way to generate income so that FFP doesn't bite our asses. They were doing pretty good for a couple of years, I remember there were close numbers between us and rube who has their own stadium. They also wanted to build the stadium but the Italian municipality is not easy to deal with. Props to them for trying. With that said, given the situation we are in now, I'd rather they sell the club, the sooner the better.