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Could do a hell of a lot worse. I'm sure people will meme because Pochettino hasn't won anything other than...did he even win a Ligue 1 title with PSG? I know Lille won in 2020-'21...but he's had teams which have played nice football previously. The problems with US Soccer remain entirely on the foundational levels and unless those get fixed the US has a fixed level that is nowhere near what its supporters want it to be, but I will appreciate them for not just choosing another generic ex-American player or manager thinking "this is the magic sauce this time".

He won Ligue 1 in the following season. But it isn't that important. Level of NT coaching isn't really that high. Just look at the competition. Scaloni, Southgate, Koeman, Roberto Martinez, Deschamps, Spanish coach i don't even remember his name, Rangnick, Tedesco, Dalic, Murat Yakin, Vincenzo Montella. The only top names are Nagelsmann and somewhat Spalletti. And you saw who won the last World Cup and Euro. Guys with no experience at club level.

NT coaching has a lot more to do with man management and finding a system that will get the best out of available players than credentials and winning mentality.
 

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Haha the amount of people asking me if I think the us are favorite now that they have a top coach. I’m like god no you only have 1 good player :)

The amount of people who are like if we sign klop we would win the World Cup conversation I had to squash are laughable

People trash talk Fox News but man where ever they are getting their NT information or that Man U wins every World Cup needs to be shut down
 

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Pochettino, another named coach, guess that's a start. What can he do with the current personnel is an open question.
 

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The players are not good enough for the coach to matter. You could put Pep in charge it won’t matter until you get at least another few players in each area of the field on Pulisic’s level. Tyler Adams is decent but who else is any good? Balogun is supposed to be good but is extremely unproven.
 

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Americans are a delusional on far too many topics yet football has always been removed from reality in fan discussions
 

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Some one please change the title of this thread.

Wtf is Soccer.
 

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Some one please change the title of this thread.

Wtf is Soccer.

"American football" is literally a different sport. I think most of the Americans on this forum are pretty good about generally not using the word "soccer" but in this specific thread it would be confusing and borderline dishonest. In the context of the United States and when talking to Americans, it's soccer, not football. Football in that context is the sport many of us enjoy watching between September-January.
 

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They’re both football to me as an American who is in love with both sports. With my friends from Europe I say football but everyone else it’s soccer. Glad both are back it makes for great weekends! Or terrible ones when my teams lose.
 

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They’re both football to me as an American who is in love with both sports. With my friends from Europe I say football but everyone else it’s soccer. Glad both are back it makes for great weekends! Or terrible ones when my teams lose.

It's both the best time of the year and the worst time. Completely with you, love both sports and watch them endlessly, but it also means that so much of my free time is tied up on weekends that I have difficulty finding time to do other things I'd love to do in my time away from work. (Short of finding a way to make my sports fandom into a career unto itself anyway.) There's just so much going on and, as much as I love soccer/football, as an American who's been watching the NFL for over 20 years, Sunday afternoons in the fall will always belong to the NFL for me, if Inter's playing at that time then they're just gonna have to wait.
 

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I watch Inter over my Bucs. Honestly I don’t even get that mad when the Bucs lose. I’ve seen 2 Super Bowls in my lifetime and I’m pretty content for now.

Inter on the other hand can put me in a bad mood for half the day.
 

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I watch Inter over my Bucs. Honestly I don’t even get that mad when the Bucs lose. I’ve seen 2 Super Bowls in my lifetime and I’m pretty content for now.

Inter on the other hand can put me in a bad mood for half the day.
Not me, loved it when the Bucs lost, cause the late and great Chris Thomas shows were fantastic all week.
 

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what are US, Canada and Mexico going to do about friendlies? Just play each other every month?

See they are playing New Zealand. Will they end up playing U23 teams? Of other countries? I just dont see teams being available nor wanting to see their Youth team get humiliated. Tho would be funny if some Olympic team beats the main 11 of one of the CONCACAF teams :)
 

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Rooting for the Kiwi's tonight.
 
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Worst part of being a parent is having play dates with random fking kids and the most ackward time of your wife trying to make you friends with the random dad.

Any way today had to do it….. the play date dad was a former US NT player who works for ESPN that is pretty close to my place.

He was a cool guy but I did shit on him for saying Us would beat Colombia :)
 

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Billionaire Who Chaired NASL Admits He Used Burner Account to Attack MLS, U.S. Soccer​

Rocco Commisso chaired the rival North American Soccer League and is funding the lawsuit that led to the discovery of the secret account.
Starting in late 2017, an anonymous Twitter account going by “Global Soccer Fan” began attacking Major League Soccer and the U.S. Soccer Federation, comparing their leaders to notorious criminals.

The tweets from @fan_global compared MLS commissioner Don Garber and USSF president Sunil Gulati to convicted rapist Harvey Weinstein and the late Ponzi schemer Bernie Madoff, and the person behind the account likely would have remained secret forever. But then former North American Soccer League chairman Rocco Commisso spent years funding an antitrust lawsuit against MLS and USSF.

Discovery in that lawsuit revealed that Commisso is Global Soccer Fan. He sent the tweets.



In September 2017, U.S. Soccer denied NASL’s application to renew its Division 2 sanction, which ultimately led to the NASL’s collapse and all parties sparring in Brooklyn federal court more than seven years later. NASL and Commisso allege that MLS and USSF conspired to tank the fledgling league.

Shortly after, Commisso—the billionaire founder, CEO, and owner of cable conglomerate Mediacom—started tweeting.

Monday was the ninth day of the jury trial where NASL seeks $170 million in damages from USSF and MLS. (Damages awarded are tripled under antitrust law.) On Monday, the trial’s ninth day, MLS’s outside counsel read out the most incendiary tweets uncovered during discovery. The NASL side had tried to keep them sealed.

“If NASL lawsuit continues, the skeletons will come out of the closet,” Commisso agreed during testimony he tweeted from Global Soccer Fan on December 16, 2017. “USSF has been raped by the Harvey Weinstein of US Soccer – Garber, who with MLS owners and Gulati, have engineered a Madoff-type scam on all of American soccer.”

Brad Ruskin, MLS’s outside counsel, asked Commisso: “I think you agreed with me that you understood the absolute horror of equating something or someone with rape; correct?”

Ruskin followed: “You chose to equate someone with rape over a business grievance where you didn’t get what you wanted, correct? That’s when you decided to do this, yes or no?”

Commisso simply replied “Yes” to both questions.

As Global Soccer Fan, Commisso frequently compared Garber to Weinstein and equated his management to rape. In court Monday he admitted he posted this on Dec. 22, 2017, about an executive named Kathy Carter. “At SUM, she ran a corrupt enterprise for boss Donnie Garber, the Harvey Weinstein of U.S. Soccer raping USSF for fifteen years for MLS owners,” he wrote.

SUM is Soccer United Marketing, at the time a joint MLS-USSF marketing and media company.

Commisso owned the NASL’s New York Cosmos and still owns the Serie A club ACF Fiorentina. Mediacom Communications, the source of his fortune, a cable operator in 22 states. When questioned by his own lawyer, Jeff Kessler, Commisso said he started the anonymous account so as not to interfere with his media company’s business. He later conceded he set up a second anonymous Twitter account under the name Virgil Kane, and instructed his public relations executive at Mediacom to post damning posts about MLS and USSF.

Commisso frequently entangled Mediacom with his soccer interests. When Fox analyst Alexi Lalas criticized the NASL suit on his podcast, Commisso sent a letter to a Fox executive asking for Lalas to be disciplined because Mediacom and Fox were business partners, according to his own testimony.

“Lalas knows he walks a fine line with rocco,” Commisso wrote from his anonymous account in May 2018. “He cannot offend his masters at MLS/USSF. Garber has final say as to whether he can telecast MLS games. But he also cannot offend rocco, as his Mediacom cable tv company has paid FOX hundreds of $$ millions over yrs. Be careful Lalas.”

A few days later he tweeted, “MLS is like a prostitute. You only get if you pay.”

Commisso, visibly bruised from a weekend fall in the shower, expressed regrets for the tweets on the witness stand. “I don’t feel good about it because it’s not me,” he testified on Monday. “I stopped the Twitter account. I haven’t done any Tweets in five or six years and I’m happy for having stopped all the social media stuff.”

He answered “I don’t think so” when Ruskin, the MLS lawyer, asked if he had apologized to any of the people he had “smeared” with the tweets.

It appeared to be a taxing day for Commisso. When the judge in the case, Hector Gonzalez, told him he could stand down, Commisso asked, “I can go home now?” Gonzalez said he could, to which Commisso retorted, “Oh my God. Thank you jury. Thank you, judge.”
 

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Hell, with all that going for him, surprised he wasn't a cabinet pick. ;)
 
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