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Stop :palm:ing. Your post was ridiculous.

First it was unable to motivate then your first point was about keeping his cool. Simeone was superb even in the finals, they were just 2 mins away from winning it. No Carlo never loses it because he is one of rare managers who never loses his calmness.

So by your point Jose is not good enough to motivate as he lost his cool and poked in Tito's eye when they lost Super cup. Argument is full of holes. There were many managers who lost it and did silly things when losing, main culprit is Jose who is arguably the best manager.

How can you motivate your players standing on the touchline at 110th min when they were on their knees? Atletico relies on work rate more than any team in the world and that's why they made it to the finals, not sure how they can bring themselves up when just a week back they played against Barca and used only around 14 players whole season, on top of it they lost 2 of their players in Costa and Arda.

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Again, it is tiring for me to explain a simple thing over and over.

There is always a correlation between your stress level with anxiety with concentration with your action. It is psychological and physiological.

I never said Simeone is bad. Prove it to me if I have mentioned Simeone is bad during the first 90 minutes. What I commented is about the situation post- Real 1st goal. I said it as soon as Ramos scored that Real has the upper hand and poor atletico. I never said Atletico is a bad team or Simeone is a useless prick but it was evident Simeone lost it after Ramos scored. Why did he lose it? It has a lot of factors contribute into it but the main factor is that Simeone lost himself, he couldnt compose himself back into the game. In that kind of situation, I dont believe Simeone could think of any clear new ideas to keep on playing and we saw it after Real second goal, Atletico surrender.

I dont know how you make the assumptions that I said Simeone is not good enough. I only said Simeone needs more experiences to handle these kind of pressures and to get out of this pressure you definitely need a cool head.

In Simeone's thread I said he is a great tactician but he needs more experiences to be a great managers.

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Yes because getting a draw on Nou Camp is such an easy feat that everybody could do it!

Still less harder than winning against Real Madrid after losing it 2 minutes away from winning it. The collapse of morale is disaster.

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Agreed. Its not like he was playing good the entire game.

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Lol comparing Ancelotti's 2005 loss to Simeone who has been PROVOKED.

Ancelotti lost the game, thats it. Meanwhile Varane passes the ball sarcastically to Simeone and apparently said something which make him go apeshit, its not like he is a saint, if it was Mourinho he would do much worse, and he is one of the beat managers. Yes it is an overreaction but never think its easy to handle it when someone provokes in the last minutes of a game where he is losing, heck even Zidane did it in the world cup final.

He is a very respected coach and very respected motivator, see his reaction when Real scored the last 2 goals, he was applauding with his tears about to fall. Until that lil kid Varane came and passed the ball, and you want him to pass the ball back?? :lol:

He is a professional and should act as one. I'm a doctor and almost everyday, patients keep bad mouthing on me because of my race. Patient say thing like fuck your mother, son of a bitch, fuck your life, etc. am I right to shout back and probably inject them with poison? I could but I am a professional and I should not react to provocation. Provocation and reacting to provocation is the same bad thing.
 

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Agreed. Its not like he was playing good the entire game.

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Lol comparing Ancelotti's 2005 loss to Simeone who has been PROVOKED.

Ancelotti lost the game, thats it. Meanwhile Varane passes the ball sarcastically to Simeone and apparently said something which make him go apeshit, its not like he is a saint, if it was Mourinho he would do much worse, and he is one of the beat managers. Yes it is an overreaction but never think its easy to handle it when someone provokes in the last minutes of a game where he is losing, heck even Zidane did it in the world cup final.

He is a very respected coach and very respected motivator, see his reaction when Real scored the last 2 goals, he was applauding with his tears about to fall. Until that lil kid Varane came and passed the ball, and you want him to pass the ball back?? :lol:

He's a professional. There's never an excuse for that. You cant do shit just because you were provoked.
 

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:palm::palm:

Again, it is tiring for me to explain a simple thing over and over.

There is always a correlation between your stress level with anxiety with concentration with your action. It is psychological and physiological.

I never said Simeone is bad. Prove it to me if I have mentioned Simeone is bad during the first 90 minutes. What I commented is about the situation post- Real 1st goal. I said it as soon as Ramos scored that Real has the upper hand and poor atletico. I never said Atletico is a bad team or Simeone is a useless prick but it was evident Simeone lost it after Ramos scored. Why did he lose it? It has a lot of factors contribute into it but the main factor is that Simeone lost himself, he couldnt compose himself back into the game. In that kind of situation, I dont believe Simeone could think of any clear new ideas to keep on playing and we saw it after Real second goal, Atletico surrender.

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Also please explain how Carlo one of the best managers in the modern era couldn't do shit when they lost 3-0 lead against Liverpool? Did he also lack experience?

Your first post was
Game over. This is where experiences take place and Diego Simeone showed he has not yet capable to motivate in such high pressure.

Which is non sense as this has got nothing to do with experience(maybe little bit), just that better team with amazing squad depth with plenty of rest won the game in extra time whereas the team that fought for the league till last day and using only around 14 players just couldn't run anymore, that's when they lost it.

Atletico has ridiculously small squad and they played for league and CL till last day which meant at least 7 players played more than 50 games. On the other hand Madrid lost the league at least 3 weeks before and they rested their best players before finals and also they had superb depth from day 1.

So simple question, is Jose not capable to motivate players in high pressure games? Because I remember him losing his cool many times when losing the games.

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Yes because getting a draw on Nou Camp is such an easy feat that everybody could do it!

That too when they were losing 1-0 at HT and lost 2 of their best players.
 

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This is not a video game.

actually ed, it is
someone accidentally pressed "triangle button" on atletico's goal
if you know what it's mean :troll:
 

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You cant really say Atletico chocked because they went to the Camp Nou infornt of 100 thousand and won, but 1-0 up and in the 93 minute there is no room for error, and someone should have been on each side of the post as well defending and they should have tried keeping the ball longer, but even though Madrid played a terrible game they showed alot of heart going after it until the end so they deserved it at the end of the day.

Simeone lost it, big deal, we all know what type of coach he is and thats him, he didnt hit anyone or attack anyone, he lost it for a second and thats it, doesnt take anything away from him as a manger or his team, who people never though would have been able to win anything against Real or Barca, the difference in quality is immense yet they challenged them this year.
 

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The only chance they had was playing like they did, having no D. Costa and no Turan were big handicaps. Hoping for a goal and defending it til the end was absolutely the only chance against the team that had Di Maria, Bale and CR on the same pitch. Unlucky that goal in the last minutes, but that's how it is. Real has a longer bench, Atletico playing the same 11 every game was their gift and their curse.

Both Simeone and Ancelotti did their thing and I liked this finale. Just a few weeks ago Ancelotti was the town dunce and Simeone the greatest tactician under the sun (in the eyes of the public...). Finals will always have one winner and one loser. I wonder what was Simeone supposed to do ..... just a question for all the haters out there.

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That Berbatov first touch :fuckyea:


Spine tingles and goosebumps.

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Modrić :D
 

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Is that in Bernabeu?
 

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:palm::palm:

Again, it is tiring for me to explain a simple thing over and over.

There is always a correlation between your stress level with anxiety with concentration with your action. It is psychological and physiological.

I never said Simeone is bad. Prove it to me if I have mentioned Simeone is bad during the first 90 minutes. What I commented is about the situation post- Real 1st goal. I said it as soon as Ramos scored that Real has the upper hand and poor atletico. I never said Atletico is a bad team or Simeone is a useless prick but it was evident Simeone lost it after Ramos scored. Why did he lose it? It has a lot of factors contribute into it but the main factor is that Simeone lost himself, he couldnt compose himself back into the game. In that kind of situation, I dont believe Simeone could think of any clear new ideas to keep on playing and we saw it after Real second goal, Atletico surrender.

I dont know how you make the assumptions that I said Simeone is not good enough. I only said Simeone needs more experiences to handle these kind of pressures and to get out of this pressure you definitely need a cool head.

In Simeone's thread I said he is a great tactician but he needs more experiences to be a great managers.

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Still less harder than winning against Real Madrid after losing it 2 minutes away from winning it. The collapse of morale is disaster.

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He is a professional and should act as one. I'm a doctor and almost everyday, patients keep bad mouthing on me because of my race. Patient say thing like fuck your mother, son of a bitch, fuck your life, etc. am I right to shout back and probably inject them with poison? I could but I am a professional and I should not react to provocation. Provocation and reacting to provocation is the same bad thing.
Wow you are very patient person. I wouldnt inject them with poison but i would react. Thats too much imo especially if they did that without a reason, dunno, maybe its different from people to people i guess.

I know professionals should keep it cool and calm and all, i know what he did is overreaction and wrong. But these kind of thing happens to professionals, i still think he is a respected coach and a good motivator.
 

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Oh boy... almost sounded like she had a stroke.
 

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Madrid tiki-taka goes forward and creates chances unlike Barca who just pass it around in defence and midfield all day long.
 

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Because this is not tiki-taka, this is direct attacking football. And i personally love it. I just love how Real plays this year under ancelotti.
 

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Simeone made an ape of himself though, what an idiot. I understand tension and emotions got really high, but what the fuck. Do we really need someone who goes that ape shit as soon as things get serious? I really doubt it, certainly while having Mazzarri.
 

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60.000 people had orgasm.
 
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And yet, Atletico fans were louder even when they were giving Real the medals :lol:
 

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Because this is not tiki-taka, this is direct attacking football. And i personally love it. I just love how Real plays this year under ancelotti.

Just like Jupp's Bayern were simply serial killers in their Triple champaign. Carlo used his now 5x CL brain well.
 

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I didn't evne see the video, i thought it was the CL final :)
 
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