Why do you support Inter, and how did you choose Inter?

[vitomins]

Adam...I have lost any respect I had left for you if you agree with this moron...

 

[Adam]

Aww shucks.

 

[Stefan]

My personal opinion on this is quite clear. I am a real Inter fan and the fact that I wasn't born in Italy or have the opportunity to live there won't change that fact. I really hate it when people think you are less of a fan just because you weren't born in that teams country, that's BS imho.

 

[Il Genio]

Who are you to deem what acting is appropriate and what isn't? Excuse me if I'm ignorant or whatever, but I support Inter in whatever way I like and if you don't like it, why would you care? I'm an interista regardless of your liking or not. My impression of you is that you act like you have some kind of supreme right to judge what is correct or not just because you are Italian.

You are saying you face milanisti every day, I wonder how you figure no one else does. I do. But maybe they don't count either? You are not making any sense, sorry fratello. Just because I'm not physically able to go to each and every match means I'm not a true interista?

No, that's not what I'm saying.

I'm sorry, I don't understand this part. I don't recall having commented on this.

Context

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Ok, I've been ignoring this thread but this is just hilarious at this point.. He hasn't said he's Italian, he hasn't even implied it. And he's right.

Yes and yes.

Few, if any posters on this forum, have any credibility if they decide to call anyone a "fake" fan and describe themselves as "real fans. The "real" Italian fans might have a completely different opinion, and probably do. Note, he's not saying that's right only that it's ridiculous for someone to take the high horse when more or less all of us are in the same boat.

Precisely. Thanks for translating my moronic, incomprehensible points.

Adam...I have lost any respect I had left for you if you agree with this moron...

All I'm saying is that you have no right to deem who's a proper Interista unless you remove your Ronaldo avatar and move from the states. Surely we agree that if you did it would be hypocritical and fake wigga-behaviour?

I don't see the argument there unless you subscribe to the wigga-mentality.

 

[vitomins]

All I'm saying is that you have no right to deem who's a proper Interista unless you remove your Ronaldo avatar and move from the states. Surely we agree that if you did it would be hypocritical and fake wigga-behaviour?

I don't see the argument there unless you subscribe to the wigga-mentality.

I have never came on here and pointed fingers saying who is a real fan and who is a fake fan like you have done. All I have said is that I do not like and have no respect for people who hop from team to team following their favorite players. That is my opinion and I am entitled to it, but you preach your ideas as if they were fact.

Ronaldo was my favorite soccer player before he joined Inter...I followed Inter for about 5-6 years before he came here...Ronaldo is the reason why I always wanted to play harder and better in real life soccer and it was merely a coincidence that he joined my favorite team. To this day Ronaldo is still my favorite player even though I will never condone his actions towards this club. But I still remain here as an Inter fan almost 10 years after he has left...I have not become a Real Madrid fan like I am sure some Ronaldo followers did after he left.

My entire family was born in Italy, they just decided to move to the United States in order to make a better living...so do I rank in between an Italian fan and International fan on your idiotic scale of Fan Power because I have Italian blood?

 

[Il Genio]

My personal opinion on this is quite clear. I am a real Inter fan and the fact that I wasn't born in Italy or have the opportunity to live there won't change that fact. I really hate it when people think you are less of a fan just because you weren't born in that teams country, that's BS imho.

Yeah, but you wouldn't be so daft as to pick and chose who's a real fan with the basis of your own supporting background though, right? You do agree that some things differ in terms of emotional bias of a local fan and a foreign fan?

Like... why would you get angry about "traitors" when there's no real annoyance about it? If someone's rubbing it into your face daily or you're spending a lot of cash or whatever, then there's actual factors that will make you angry - but if you're just trying to absord the emotions and sentiments of the local fanbase... then it's like one of those japanese girls crying over Beckham going from Real to LA?

Wrong?

 

[Forza ragazzi]

There are obvious differences, but neither are better than the other. I've spent a lot of money on Inter even though I don't live in Milano. It doesn't make sense that anyone is more "real" or "true" fan just because where you happen to have been born or live.

 

[blackmore]

Not "each and every", just the really pathetic ones who acts like they live on curva nord and are hypocritical enough to go question other fans support; a debate starting with a lot of Inter-wiggas calling people who didn't hate Ibra fanboys and fake.

Newsflash: There's currently 105 people who didn't think it was such a big deal and only 33 "real" fans who thought it was. Out of those 137 people there's only a handful wigga enough to hunt down the fanboys - about half of them with Ronaldo as their favourite player or as a avatar.

It would be reasonable to assume that the silent majority, the 105 people who didn't see his leaving as a big deal, would find the argument of not hating Ibra = poor supporter as pathetic as I do and are equally amused by the irony of having a bunch of non-local, ultra-wannabe, playstation-fans telling them how they should or shouldn't support Inter.

The rabid minority = Inter-wiggas failing horribly at being "real fans". :joker::thumbsdo:

you seem to have freud like tendencies..refering to ronaldo as he would(freud)to his mother..nuff said i know if i get into it too much im gonna get banned so ill leave it at that.. i lurve inter to much for that to happen...anyway who are you to pass judgement on others...we cant help it if you dont like it if ppl diss your fanboy fetish...ronaldo fan or not...fact of the matter is in footballing terms he always was,is and will be a better player then imahomobitch(that my opinion and thats all it is just an opinion)..but again i stress he is way off topic.why the hell is he even been mentioned...not part of the convo here...lame defense tactic if you ask me...maybe the 105 ppl you are talking about just dont give a crap about what happened..and let it slide....i havent really seen anyone per say tell anyone else how they should or should not support inter..you are the ultimate low of the low if you treat your other fan of inter in such a manner....instead of holding him/her in the highest esteem you degrade them in such a foul way befitting them of a jube/bbilan fan...shame on you....constructive criticism is just that and if you cant take the heat dude get out of the kitchen.....im pretty sure after reading many comments on this thread that ibra was not liked for his attitude and nothing more...i myself have great admiration for the man jst like many others and what he did for our club but will always label him as a pre-madonna,whinger and choker(yes i know the truth can sometime hurt)...for you to segregate inter fans in such a manner is demeaning and distasteful dude and is out of line...so for example if i knew guys who punt 15000-30000 dollars a game(hypothetically) in syndicates but werent from italy that makes them bigger fans then you rite..???im pretty sure they feel it worse then you going to a game..seeing the team loose and getting it "rubbed" in their face the next day at work huh..???all fans should be treated equally and given the same respect because in the end of the day thats all we are dude.....i personally ow interista from italy and they love the fact the the club has brought fans and recognition from around the world...that it puts the club up on a higher plateau..its a shame we cant all be like this as this discussion has ridiculed us for long enough...

 

[Stefan]

Yeah, but you wouldn't be so daft as to pick and chose who's a real fan with the basis of your own supporting background though, right? You do agree that some things differ in terms of emotional bias of a local fan and a foreign fan?

Like... why would you get angry about "traitors" when there's no real annoyance about it? If someone's rubbing it into your face daily or you're spending a lot of cash or whatever, then there's actual factors that will make you angry - but if you're just trying to absord the emotions and sentiments of the local fanbase... then it's like one of those japanese girls crying over Beckham going from Real to LA?

Wrong?

It depends from fan to fan. How do you know people here don't get taunted by their coworkers and people who know they are inter fans when they lose??

Also I am sorry but there's no way you can know how strong the emotional attachment is. Some foreign fans feel just as much for inter as the locals and some local italian fans feel less than the foreign fans.

I don't believe there's any way you can generalize and say a foreign fan is less emotionally involved it depends on the individual fan.

 

[Il Genio]

I have never came on here and pointed fingers saying who is a real fan and who is a fake fan like you have done.

No, I haven't. This is a legitimate debate, not the spanish inquisition.

All I have said is that I do not like and have no respect for people who hop from team to team following their favorite players. That is my opinion and I am entitled to it, but you preach your ideas as if they were fact.

How about this then, you said:

"Except if you came form being a Juventino or Milanista...yuck just the thought of switching to those teams makes me want to jump off a bridge!"

.. and I've openly admitted to switching to Inter when Toto joined.

So, what's worse, being a Ronaldo-fan or switching from Juventus..?

Ronaldo was my favorite soccer player before he joined Inter...I followed Inter for about 5-6 years before he came here...Ronaldo is the reason why I always wanted to play harder and better in real life soccer and it was merely a coincidence that he joined my favorite team. To this day Ronaldo is still my favorite player even though I will never condone his actions towards this club. But I still remain here as an Inter fan almost 10 years after he has left...I have not become a Real Madrid fan like I am sure some Ronaldo followers did after he left.

Good for you. Ronaldo was great and I'm sure there's more than you that started out the same way you did.

My entire family was born in Italy, they just decided to move to the United States in order to make a better living...so do I rank in between an Italian fan and International fan on your idiotic scale of Fan Power because I have Italian blood?

You could be greek on the internet and close personal friends with Moratti, so no, not really.

Luckily for you my scale is pretty flat though.

 

[Stefan]

No, I haven't. This is a legitimate debate, not the spanish inquisition.



How about this then, you said:

"Except if you came form being a Juventino or Milanista...yuck just the thought of switching to those teams makes me want to jump off a bridge!"

.. and I've openly admitted to switching to Inter when Toto joined.

So, what's worse, being a Ronaldo-fan or switching from Juventus..?

Quite clearly switching from juve is the worse of the two. If you supported juve it means you didn't condemn their cheating.

 

[Il Genio]

It depends from fan to fan. How do you know people here don't get taunted by their coworkers and people who know they are inter fans when they lose??

It's not the same as living in a atmosphere where everything evolves around it though.

Also I am sorry but there's no way you can know how strong the emotional attachment is. Some foreign fans feel just as much for inter as the locals and some local italian fans feel less than the foreign fans.

I don't believe there's any way you can generalize and say a foreign fan is less emotionally involved it depends on the individual fan.

There's a lot of people who are emotional about a lot of things for no reason and there's also different ways of being emotional (love vs hate etc), but my point is that some emotions you simply can't replicate without it having a deep impact on your everyday life.

Example: it's easier to get rejected on the internet but it's pretty damn though in real life.

 

[Il Genio]

Quite clearly switching from juve is the worse of the two. If you supported juve it means you didn't condemn their cheating.

Haha. You bastard!

 

[Stefan]

It's not the same as living in a atmosphere where everything evolves around it though.



There's a lot of people who are emotional about a lot of things for no reason and there's also different ways of being emotional (love vs hate etc), but my point is that some emotions you simply can't replicate without it having a deep impact on your everyday life.

Example: it's easier to get rejected on the internet but it's pretty damn though in real life.

Sorry but emotions is not as black and white as you try and paint it. It differs from person to person. a Guy who gets rejected on the internet can get hit just as bad as someone who gets rejected in real life.

Emotions and feelings are not rational so there is absolute no way you can say a foreign fan can't feel the same way as an italian inter fan.

 

[Il Genio]

Sorry but emotions is not as black and white as you try and paint it. It differs from person to person. a Guy who gets rejected on the internet can get hit just as bad as someone who gets rejected in real life.

Point conceded.

Emotions and feelings are not rational so there is absolute no way you can say a foreign fan can't feel the same way as an italian inter fan.

Yeah, but like you say those emotions wont be very rational, and especially if there's anger and contempt involved... then it gets very... irrational.

In fact, I think I'd prefer a fan faking those very irrational feelings to fit in what he or she thinks is the Inter-way, instead of some guy actually fuming over it. There's a thin line between a passionate foreign fan and a crazy Inter-wigga:

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Or this one:

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(the tragedy/irony of course being all parties investing way too much in unimportant issues)


Like, whatever happened to having a beer with your mates and enjoying a good game of football? Why the drama?

Is it a level 24 rogue (?) thing? :joker:

 

[sergiu.inter]

Jesus dudes....wtf is with this discussion?!i won't interfere but it's ridiculous...and just so you know,a foreign fan can in many situations feel a lot more than an italian can...believe me...
an example that comes to mind is inter-samp 3-2 when after their 2nd goal half of the stadium was going home whilst others stood...

 

[ibra9]

I supports Inter since I was born, I was born black and blue. lol lol

seriously thou, Zamorano, R. Baggio, Vieri, Djorkaeff, Ronaldo. I pick Inter because i love the history and the character of the player. it was 1998, the day i pick up to learn football and i have been supporting them ever since.

FORZA INTER!

 

[ibra9]

Agree, real fans are not fairweather fans.

I could not judge the emotion between real Italian inter fans or International fans. but to label them is pretty bad. for we are one here and on the same side. the most important thing is not to be fake fans and supports other team as year goes by.

I bet italian fans have stronger feeling and pride more than international fans. they have more experience living in Italy and compete with other fans. I think that's hard and italian fans sometimes are brutal, which some fight will occur. I respect that. As an international fan, I am, too supports what Inter fans do as a Inter fan in italy. I won't be a part of the italian experience thing. But if i'm living in Italy right now, you will see me with Inter flag's, chanting Inter every weekend.

 

[William]

I've been an Interista since Christmas 2004 but I believe I was born one. Before then I hated football and everything about it, something that nowadays makes me laugh. I would firstly have to thank PES as me and my brother didn't know any of the teams in it because the licences were poor and we had little knowledge about any european teams so we decided to push random. We landed in the Serie A and there was only one badge that stood out. At that time we knew nothing about Inter, about Inter's past or about Inter's greatness. All we knew that Inter was an Italian club and played in black and blue. We played as Inter and enjoyed it. We followed the Inter matches through the official site and by listening to Scarpini and it was great. When we were able to watch a match the football was beautiful. Over the years I have become a die hard Interista and I believe this is where I belong!

We are the best club in Italy! Best club in Europe! Best club in the world! Our history is beautiful and It's an honour to live as a die hard Interista!

 

[Maslany]

I'm a girl but i've always loved football. My cousin was a huge Inter supporter when we were kids (he still is) and i guess his love for Inter sticked to me as well and my first memory of crying for Inter is 5 may. So i guess i'm a fan for about 10 years. I love this team to death.

And considering the fact that i'm from Macedonia and that Inter here is like our team now because of Pandev, and there are so many new supporters, it really bugs me when someone asks me if i'm a fan because of our player (who actually didn't make me love Inter more than i could ever love them). It gets on my nerves cuz it has happened on several occasions, people are pretty much confused when they see a girl who is crazy about a football team without any particular reason.