New FIGC Laws - A Mistake for Italian Football

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Repost from herehttp://inter1908blog.com/the-figc-and-their-new-laws/
Note, some formatting aspects will be lost, so I really recommend reading this on the main page

The FIGC have tonight released a new set of laws which will apply to Italian football clubs. I think some are particularly stupid, and now I want to review why.

Carlo Tavecchio, FIGC President and possibly a racist

Quoted from Football Italia:

The FIGC passed new laws today limiting Serie A squads to 25 players, four of them growing up in Italy and four in their club academy.

The reforms will come into effect from 2016. They were proposed by new Federation President Carlo Tavecchio and formed the basis of his platform when running for election in August.

Among the amendments passed today, Serie A clubs agreed to limit their squads to no more than 25 players.

These must include four who grew up in Italy and four who came through the club’s own youth academy.

There will be no limitations on the Under-21 players, as the vast majority of those in the country are Italian anyway.

The rules governing non-EU players have also changed, as a young player at his first registration must already be a resident in the country, to have come to Italy with his parents for non-sporting reasons and been in school for at least four years.

There is already a limit on the number of non-EU players allowed in the squad, but now new rules have been imposed on the ‘replacement’ with a new entry.

A new non-EU player can only be brought in to replace another if he has already held a professional contract for at least three years, so since 2012.

The FIGC notes these rules were voted on unanimously – apart from the Players’ Association AIC and Coaches’ Association AIAC – and are aimed at “seeking financial sustainability of clubs with consequent investment in national academies.”

A new rule has also been introduced forcing clubs to pay towards the expenses of referees if an official is physically attacked.

Let me summarise:
Serie A is being moved by the FIGC towards a Premiership model, where a squad of 25 players is imposed, following the same rules that the club now has to obey when competing in Europe.

This is of course bourne out of the desire to see the Italian national team competitive again, but is this going to come at a price that the Italian league cannot afford? The sad thing is, on many levels at least, league quality and international team quality can be quite anti-correlated. One might look at Germany and Spain as counterexamples for this, but depth beyond the top one or two teams is extremely limited. On the other hand, I think most people are prepared to admit that the Premiership in general is quite a competitive league, which is not surprising given the amount of money even middle table teams have to spend, but as one would expect, the national team sucks.

Joseph Duncan, a threat to the FIGC?

The last time Italy used extremely anti-foreign laws to prevent players of non-Italian nationality plying their trade in Italy, Italy won a world cup. It also wasn’t very competitive in Europe, and sadly, what Italian football needs now is not a competitive team, but rather, a competitive league. With attendances slipping, great teams declining, only our worst, most hated, scumbag cheating rivals remain even close to staking a claim as a continental side.

I think it’s a mistake for the FIGC to impose this. It is in those unknown non-EU imports that we can really aim to make our money – look at Juan Jesus as a good example, or Matteo Kovacic – which can really revive the Italian league.

Further a foot, lets look at the potential impact on youth players.

The rules governing non-EU players have also changed, as a young player at his first registration must already be a resident in the country, to have come to Italy with his parents for non-sporting reasons and been in school for at least four years.

Non-EU players must have moved to Italy for non-sporting reasons (which, as Barcelona demonstrate, can be worked around anyway), but the school for four years requirement (presumably, at least, four years in an Italian school!) is restrictive. Look at the number of great young prospects coming through at Inter, for example, from Africa, who probably don’t qualify for that. I say probably as on a lot of these young players it is very hard to definitively know what their background is or not. The idea, though, that somehow all the Italian clubs can produce even semi-reasonable youth prospects every year (remembering there are 500 Primavera players if not more in Serie A – how many of these make it?) to fill out their squad with enough quality to raise the bar – rather than lower it – is ridiculous.

Ibrahima MBaye, a threat to the FIGC

Some of our best prospects now would probably not be here. And how that benefits Italian football at all is entirely beyond me.
 

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it should be either 4 who grew up in italy or 4 who came through the youth academy. This is gonna be so shit as we will now have to sell a fair few players to comply. Also what constitutes growing up in italy
 

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I believe they just use the same definition as UEFA?
 

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mama mia...If grandpa racist thinks he gonna FORCE clubs to play mediocre Italian playesr in the big clubs...that's gonna make the league even more shitty than it is now:palm:

own fu goal indeed
 

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Alas, we continue to run and hide from the real problems.

Forcing clubs to do things certain ways will not change anything. The state of Italian football is rotten at the core. These band-aids are just prolonging the inevitable.

Your national team sucks because your players aren't good. Your players aren't good because they don't have enough talent or aren't tactically sound. Top tier clubs push aside their younger players. All this system will do is force teams to pay more for Italian players, artificially increasing their prices domestically. A piece of garbage like Bonaventure will go from being a mediocre Italian footballer to now a mediocre Italian footballer with a ridiculous price tag. Teams will loan out their youngster and use the bottom table clubs as their youth teams, while they buy the expensive, "established" Italian players.

Serie A will have reduced match quality, a reduction in talent players, and less of a willingness or commitment from A) young players from foreign countries to come here, and B) clubs will put a lesser emphasis on fining elite young talent abroad (which is essential to survive and compete).

Players like Gilardino will play in this league until he is 38.

Thanks, FIGC.
 

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Alas, we continue to run and hide from the real problems.

Forcing clubs to do things certain ways will not change anything. The state of Italian football is rotten at the core. These band-aids are just prolonging the inevitable.

Your national team sucks because your players aren't good. Your players aren't good because they don't have enough talent or aren't tactically sound. Top tier clubs push aside their younger players. All this system will do is force teams to pay more for Italian players, artificially increasing their prices domestically. A piece of garbage like Bonaventure will go from being a mediocre Italian footballer to now a mediocre Italian footballer with a ridiculous price tag. Teams will loan out their youngster and use the bottom table clubs as their youth teams, while they buy the expensive, "established" Italian players.

Serie A will have reduced match quality, a reduction in talent players, and less of a willingness or commitment from A) young players from foreign countries to come here, and B) clubs will put a lesser emphasis on fining elite young talent abroad (which is essential to survive and compete).

Players like Gilardino will play in this league until he is 38.

Thanks, FIGC.


this.
 

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Why wont they put a rule like in La Liga, when players cant go full retard with numbers like 69, 99, 72, 53, 98, 97? Limit the numbers till 30 or 25 since there are only 25 players available, but for Primaveras players sake 35 (in case they get called up or some shit).



Seriously it pains me to watch numbers above 39 in football.
 

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Why wont they put a rule like in La Liga, when players cant go full retard with numbers like 69, 99, 72, 53, 98, 97? Limit the numbers till 30 or 25 since there are only 25 players available, but for Primaveras players sake 35 (in case they get called up or some shit).



Seriously it pains me to watch numbers above 39 in football.

You just ignored the whole concept of this discussion..
 

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Were following the epl model, look how it has worked for the english national team! And players like luke shaw sell for 30 fucking million. At least wed be able to sell ranocchia for 60m. Haha just kidding italian teams have no money
 

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Were following the epl model, look how it has worked for the english national team! And players like luke shaw sell for 30 fucking million. At least wed be able to sell ranocchia for 60m. Haha just kidding italian teams have no money

The English are fools and will buy the overpriced mediocre Italian players now since they love their foreign players over there. These new rules will pump more money into Italian football. Very smart idea by the FIGC.

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Why wont they put a rule like in La Liga, when players cant go full retard with numbers like 69, 99, 72, 53, 98, 97? Limit the numbers till 30 or 25 since there are only 25 players available, but for Primaveras players sake 35 (in case they get called up or some shit).



Seriously it pains me to watch numbers above 39 in football.

This seriously bothers you? :lol:
 

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Why wont they put a rule like in La Liga, when players cant go full retard with numbers like 69, 99, 72, 53, 98, 97? Limit the numbers till 30 or 25 since there are only 25 players available, but for Primaveras players sake 35 (in case they get called up or some shit).



Seriously it pains me to watch numbers above 39 in football.


Do you start to twitch? Eyeballs burn? :pokerface:
 

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The major impact of these new rules is twofold:

1. Italian clubs will import less players from South America - this is reduce the quality of the league in the short to medium term.

2. Primavera will have to focus on EU kids, again less players from Africa and SA. This means the quality of youth players growing into Serie A will reduce.

3. The cost of Italian players will increase. Which means that Italian clubs will have to refocus their scouting efforts to EU nations.

On the positive side:

1. Primavera players will have a better chance in playing Serie A football, due to restrictions on incoming talent. So the price of Inter's current Primavera just went up ;)

2. Clubs will have to invest more on training and youth development, due to more restrictions on foreign talent.

Like Browha said, this is a step back for Serie A, I have no doubt about that. FIGC should realise that their first objective should be to improve Serie A, and the national team will follow.

For all the hue and cry about the failure of the English national team, people forget that the quality and depth of players available for the English team has gradually improved over the last 20 years, in line with the growing quality of EPL. There may be fewer English players starting in EPL, but they have more quality because they play against the world's best every week. The failure of the English NT has more to do with English players not giving their best for the NT. An indication of that is clear from the fact that over 40 players have declined call ups to the U21 NT in the last couple of years. Players care more about their big money club careers than the NT. But if you make a squad of the best U21 English players today and compare it with what it was 20 years ago (or even the Azzurrini now), you will see how much difference a top class EPL has made on the quality of English players. The stronger the domestic league, the better the quality of players is available for the NT. FIGC seems to think the opposite.
 

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I agree with Browha and Bluenine, however the way I see it, it is a step back for Italian football indeed but could be a step forward for Inter primavera which could boost our chances on the long run, as everyone know we have always had the best primavera products in Italy. This might actually work in Inter`s favor on the long run.
 

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FIGC should realise that their first objective should be to improve Serie A, and the national team will follow.

Not true. Look at EPL. Strength of domestic league is a factor in NT strength, but the biggest factor is youth development.

Then again, does anyone really give a shit about international football anymore? Do you really want to hinder growth of league for national team?
 

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mama mia...If grandpa racist thinks he gonna FORCE clubs to play mediocre Italian playesr in the big clubs...that's gonna make the league even more shitty than it is now:palm:

own fu goal indeed

now we are playing medicore foreign players, big deal.

im already missing krhin, mbaye, mvila, obi, palacio, vidic, kuzmanovic, jonathan, dodo, guarin, campagnaro etc. what a bunch of world class player we got.

put there this medicore-worst italian players and we will play the same football. we can go back to playing 3 non italians and ill be ok with it- jj, kovacic, icardi, the rest can GTFO.

Look at the number of great young prospects coming through at Inter, for example, from Africa

in recent years our uber primavera gave us one balotelli and a ton of garbage.

Not true. Look at EPL. Strength of domestic league is a factor in NT strength, but the biggest factor is youth development.

Then again, does anyone really give a shit about international football anymore? Do you really want to hinder growth of league for national team?

the best way to build a big teams and league is to build it on investing big money in star players and infrastructure just like epl did.

when your broke like italy and italians, you can try to build the new image of the league on national team success.
 

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Again, I think the correlation between domestic league and national team is weak. There is one, but it's not great.

We should stop worrying about image, and start worrying about results of the clubs in Europe, instead of trying to indirectly build the image of the league, through NT success.

#1 thing) Change playing style.
 

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Meanwhile Parma is risking bankruptcy and Serie D... :pokerface:

If they want to come to the end of the season they need 30mil...and with 60m€ debt and fat boss Ghirardi doesn't want to pay those 30mil...
 

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Will Tavecchio be there till 2016? If he's not there, is it possible for these rules to be reverted if someone new comes as a president?
 

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The English are fools and will buy the overpriced mediocre Italian players now since they love their foreign players over there. These new rules will pump more money into Italian football. Very smart idea by the FIGC.

This move will pump money out of Italian football.

You know who are going to be returning to Serie A soon? Criscito, Borini, Cerci, and Bocchetti. Italian clubs will find it necessary to overspend for these players in order to meet the FIGC's quotas. So instead of spending money responsibly or on better players, we'll waste it on middle of the road Italian players just to comply with domestic rules.

The downward spiral of Calcio continues.

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Will Tavecchio be there till 2016? If he's not there, is it possible for these rules to be reverted if someone new comes as a president?

After the Nazionale gets bounced in the group stage of Euro 2016, and Serie A remains irrelevant, people will be screaming for his head.

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Why wont they put a rule like in La Liga, when players cant go full retard with numbers like 69, 99, 72, 53, 98, 97? Limit the numbers till 30 or 25 since there are only 25 players available, but for Primaveras players sake 35 (in case they get called up or some shit).

Seriously it pains me to watch numbers above 39 in football.

Great idea. I think this is the first step in increasing our league coefficient.
 

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Well what would you do? It's not as if throwing in a reserve league (which costs money to actually set up and run) will make Italy produce top talents again. A complete Germany style revamp should be what every nation that can afford it should do.
 
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