Mauro Icardi

.h. · Jun 2, 2019

Delusional pricing here. I reckon hes worth maybe 60 or 70 and even that would be a stretch for a cash deal. In a swap I think that's reasonable as it means both parties get good plusvalenza. On a cash basis hes maybe 50 at best because hes on awful form, ar a club thay needs money and actually quite limited and very unhappy

brehme1989 · Jun 2, 2019

In the same world where Morata and Lukaku are priced at 70, Icardi cannot be a <100m striker even if he took 3 years off.

.h. · Jun 2, 2019

Hes not exactly a style of striker that is in favour. If it was raw stats I could agree but it isnt. Its overall play impact. It's the leagues they've played in. Its international call ups. Icardi lacks most of those things.

brehme1989 · Jun 2, 2019

Icardi was the top scorer at some point in the Champions League after 3 games or something in his debut season, with probably the least chances of anyone scoring 3+ goals. His only issue is the Argentina NT which is Messi territory, even Higuain, Aguero and Tevez were struggling there.

.h. · Jun 2, 2019

Let's see what happens this summer. I'll bet you anything reasonable that he goes for much less than 100m.

CafeCordoba · Jun 2, 2019

In no reality Lukaku or Morata are more valuable than Icardi. Obviously those two were so high priced was because of the situation of the buyer clubs. In those price levels, Icardi is 100m€ striker clearly. But given the current situation where everyone and their dogs know Inter want to sell Icardi, price is deflated. Specially when there are no auction going on because Wanda isn't entertaining other offers than Juve or at least that's how she is playing this at the moment. Things can obviously change.

When it comes to the narrative that there were no offers for Icardi last summer. Might be but I definitely am not buying it. To me way more likely scenario was that Icardi wanted to stay at Inter so Wanda just rejected all the offers to Icardi. No offers obviously ended up to Ausilio's desk because it would have been useless.

Edit. Of course he doesn't go for 100m€ but not because clubs wouldn't pay it but because Icardi so far has restricted his destinations to Juventus alone. If Wanda opens up to destinations abroad, it's a different matter.

Shark · Jun 2, 2019

firmino said:
i will auto-suspend me from this forum till the end of august (when the sanction expires), as a protest for the infraction which i strongly deem unfair.

You, as a criticizer of Icardi's behavior, sure are behaving like him :lol:

brehme1989 · Jun 2, 2019

When did Wanda say that he's open to Juventus? Must have missed that.

CafeCordoba · Jun 2, 2019

I guess she hasn't said it directly but it been widely implied they don't want to move from Italy and Juventus is the only club they'd go if Inter want to sell.

Wanda is obviously playing this game as if Inter is the biggest terrorist by wanting to sell Icardi. At the same time she said they want to be at Inter for at least 1,5 years (after this Icardi can sign for free). Which is ridiculous as if Inter would allow asset go for free.

If this Icardi - Dybala thing gets serious it's going to get done before July so both clubs can get max pluzvalenza for this year's books.

forzainter257 · Jun 2, 2019

InterFCAustin · Jun 2, 2019

That Wanda comment about them willing to move after year or so, I took it more as a threat to inter, not really her being dumb. Basically she’s saying, if you don’t send us where we want, we ain’t going anywhere until we’re free, and you’re fucked and gonna lose Icardi for free.
To which I say, fine, sit in a bench or primavera for next year or two, and then we’ll see who wants you after being inactive for two years.

Jerry · Jun 2, 2019

So Inter/Wanda have the right to reject any potential transfer? I just read an article that made me feel extremely pessimistic about the situation.

All this "we want to stay at Inter" talk sounds like a threat / posturing for a big showdown. If they really will only accept Rube, that's a brutal situation for Inter to be in. Surely Wanda and the gobbi directors will collude to create the worst possible return for Inter, who will now be their mutual rival. It seems that Inter's only leverage is to threaten to freeze Icardi out of the squad. This positive talk was a smart PR move by Wanda. Is it me, or do they now have Inter by the balls?

Please someone talk me off the ledge here. How can this end well for Inter?

CafeCordoba · Jun 2, 2019

InterFCAustin said:
That Wanda comment about them willing to move after year or so, I took it more as a threat to inter, not really her being dumb. Basically she’s saying, if you don’t send us where we want, we ain’t going anywhere until we’re free, and you’re fucked and gonna lose Icardi for free.
To which I say, fine, sit in a bench or primavera for next year or two, and then we’ll see who wants you after being inactive for two years.

Yes, of course it was a threat. And yeah, we have a kind of leverage on them that he can sit on the bench for two seasons. Obviously in reality we cannot do that because who the fuck wants to move to Inter anymore after such move? That there is danger if you go to conflict with club management, they force you to sit out for two years. Since from the outside it would look like that.

But, I think it's a bigger risk for Icardi to call our bluff than us to bluff.

CafeCordoba · Jun 2, 2019

Jerry said:
So Inter/Wanda have the right to reject any potential transfer? I just read an article that made me feel extremely pessimistic about the situation.

All this "we want to stay at Inter" talk sounds like a threat / posturing for a big showdown. If they really will only accept Rube, that's a brutal situation for Inter to be in. Surely Wanda and the gobbi directors will collude to create the worst possible return for Inter, who will now be their mutual rival. It seems that Inter's only leverage is to threaten to freeze Icardi out of the squad. This positive talk was a smart PR move by Wanda. Is it me, or do they now have Inter by the balls?

Please someone talk me off the ledge here. How can this end well for Inter?

Of course they have. They have contract with Inter for 2 years. We need their signature to any transfer since he needs to sign a new contract with the new club.

Jerry · Jun 2, 2019

CafeCordoba said:
Of course they have. They have contract with Inter for 2 years. We need their signature to any transfer since he needs to sign a new contract with the new club.

Well thanks for answering my rhetorical question, but not exactly the sort of reply I was looking for.

InterFCAustin · Jun 2, 2019

I disagree that Icardi has inter by the balls. I also disagree that freezing Icardi will send a negative image to the players we want to sign.
I don’t think there’s many people who have sympathy for Icardi to begin with. Icardi by getting frozen will most probably mean he’s missing the World Cup in Qatar...and we all know he’s dying to be selected in Argentina squad for the WC.
I agree that we both losing here, but saying Icardi has inter by the balls and it’s only inter who’s losing here, is a reach comment.
Icardi is not certainly a saint and certainly majority of people don’t like him, let alone paint him as a victim of inter management.

.h. · Jun 2, 2019

i'd be surprised if anyone had patience for a fellow teammates wife going on tv and revealing locker room secrets. shit is sacred no?

Jerry · Jun 2, 2019

InterFCAustin said:
I disagree that Icardi has inter by the balls. I also disagree that freezing Icardi will send a negative image to the players we want to sign.
I don’t think there’s many people who have sympathy for Icardi to begin with. Icardi by getting frozen will most probably mean he’s missing the World Cup in Qatar...and we all know he’s dying to be selected in Argentina squad for the WC.
I agree that we both losing here, but saying Icardi has inter by the balls and it’s only inter who’s losing here, is a reach comment.
Icardi is not certainly a saint and certainly majority of people don’t like him, let alone paint him as a victim of inter management.

Icardi is at risk of being frozen out, while meanwhile collecting his massive salary. Bad look, for sure, but past behavior suggests he isn't overly concerned with this outcome. Regarding his selection for Argentina, he already pissed away a chance at the 2019 Copa America to throw his hissy fit. Furthermore, even if he sat out 2 seasons at Inter, he would still have a full season somewhere else to earn his place in Argentina's squad, theoretically.

I think the biggest liability is the fact that Inter just invested so much in removing one coach and hiring a new one. Clearly there is a massive project underway with the highest ambitions and huge financial investment. Icardi is in a position to be a fly in the ointment and it seems like there isn't much we can do about that.

I may have overstated my case to provoke discussion, but I still say Inter have far more to lose than Icardi does.

Adriano@10 · Jun 2, 2019

.h. said:
i'd be surprised if anyone had patience for a fellow teammates wife going on tv and revealing locker room secrets. shit is sacred no?

Wait she revealed locker room secrets?
You mean like when she said icardi can choose who plays and everybody was like yeah sure ?
Or what exactly did she say that could be deemed a locker room secret?

Demokritos · Jun 2, 2019

CafeCordoba said:
Yes, of course it was a threat. And yeah, we have a kind of leverage on them that he can sit on the bench for two seasons. Obviously in reality we cannot do that because who the fuck wants to move to Inter anymore after such move? That there is danger if you go to conflict with club management, they force you to sit out for two years. Since from the outside it would look like that.

But, I think it's a bigger risk for Icardi to call our bluff than us to bluff.

I am not worry about the image of inter at all.
at least it is 100* better situation than snijder saga...

Icardi have not got the pay rise he wanted just yet(they desprate for money that they aint get just yet, we not),
wanda is known talking ballshit in tv show triggered the war with balkans.
Icardi refuse to play for inter after the saga
Last of all as browha just mentioned, he may have to say goodby to his last chance for WC if he refuse all transfer destination.

only downside we have is his transfer value dropped a lot on paper. however no one really offered anything in the past. he is basically someone got "high market value" but no one really keen for a real bid and take him.
wanda is clearly bluffing.
see if marotta is going to call it

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