European Super League Discussion

TheNetworkZ · Apr 21, 2021

Jnr said:
Maldini : " I only found out on sunday night, the club didnt tell me anything"

Ok Paolo.:work:

I believe it to a certain extent. The fact that the announcement was rumored hours before it happened, and not days, is proof that they were really tight-lipped on this.

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brehme1989 · Apr 21, 2021

Jnr said:
Maldini : " I only found out on sunday night, the club didnt tell me anything"

Ok Paolo.:work:

When it comes to Milan, I can buy that. The Americans are acting on their own.

Zanetti not knowing on the other hand is farfetched. I don't think Zhang Senior took this decision himself, Agnelli talks with Marotta anyway and knows he's the designated advisor to the Zhangs here. And Marotta won't hide something this big from the other Inter officials imo, way too big for that.
With Zanetti, I just don't think he expected it as much as anyone else did. It's like knowing something's there but probably won't happen and then you wake up one day and it's done. Don't think it was up to him to say much, but should have expressed disagreement in the preliminary stages.

M.Adnan · Apr 21, 2021

Good riddance. The last thing I wanna do is to be involved in a competition where Juventus run the show.

Ethor · Apr 21, 2021

According to Sky Sports reports, punitive actions against the breakaway clubs is a nonstarter ex. Point deductions. The EPL "remainers" are targeting individuals at each club, stripping them of governing board postions, fines etc.

Nacka · Apr 21, 2021

Fapuccino said:
This is bullshit. Serie A is a national league, the other is international. They're two entirely different competitions that ideally should have no relation to one another. Internationally Inter/Milan/Juventus pull almost all the attention. No one cares about Crotone or Benevento.

It's one thing having the old style "European Cup" where only the champions fight. Having the "Top 4" was always a money grab (and cannibalised the UEFA Cup as a consequence). The Champions League is no more moral than the Super League.

Exactly! Bring back the European Cup, UEFA Cup and Cup Winner's Cup.

Pimpin · Apr 21, 2021

M.Adnan said:
Good riddance. The last thing I wanna do is to be involved in a competition where Juventus run the show.

we;ve been in serie A for 100 years

Il Drago · Apr 21, 2021

Gravina, FIGC president, said there will be no sanctions against Italian members of ESL as you can't punish an idea that didn't materialize.

William · Apr 21, 2021

Il Drago said:
Gravina, FIGC president, said there will be no sanctions against Italian members of ESL as you can't punish an idea that didn't materialize.

Pretty much sums up what we’ve all been thinking over the past couple of days.

You can’t punish something which isn’t illegal and is only an idea which hasn’t been acted on.

Announcing something which is highly unpopular though does damage relations but that’s about it.

.h. · Apr 21, 2021

Il Drago said:
Gravina, FIGC president, said there will be no sanctions against Italian members of ESL as you can't punish an idea that didn't materialize.

what did i say ;-)

Juve could put out a statement saying they were gonn fix every match between now anad the endd of the season. You only get penaalisedd for actions.

Coasterfreek · Apr 21, 2021

Il Drago said:
Gravina, FIGC president, said there will be no sanctions against Italian members of ESL as you can't punish an idea that didn't materialize.

pretty much. This thing was as fast as a New York minute.

Bergpavian · Apr 21, 2021

Fapuccino said:
This is bullshit. Serie A is a national league, the other is international. They're two entirely different competitions that ideally should have no relation to one another. Internationally Inter/Milan/Juventus pull almost all the attention. No one cares about Crotone or Benevento.

Can't remember Milan pulling much attention internationally in the last years. I think you meant Atalanta or Roma.

Pimpin · Apr 21, 2021

love pure money unsullied with greed, second bottom revenue from the "super teams".

Fapuccino · Apr 21, 2021

Pimpin said:
love pure money unsullied with greed, second bottom revenue from the "super teams".

Have you ever seen that episode of Seinfeld where George Costanza storms out of a meeting with NBC executives saying he’s not going to compromise his artistic integrity?

And then Jerry later tells him “Artistic integrity? Where do you come up with this stuff? You’re not artistic and you have no integrity.” Football fans reminded me exactly of that.

CafeCordoba · Apr 21, 2021

brehme1989 said:
When it comes to Milan, I can buy that. The Americans are acting on their own.

Zanetti not knowing on the other hand is farfetched. I don't think Zhang Senior took this decision himself, Agnelli talks with Marotta anyway and knows he's the designated advisor to the Zhangs here. And Marotta won't hide something this big from the other Inter officials imo, way too big for that.
With Zanetti, I just don't think he expected it as much as anyone else did. It's like knowing something's there but probably won't happen and then you wake up one day and it's done. Don't think it was up to him to say much, but should have expressed disagreement in the preliminary stages.

Marotta himself said after Spezia-match that he wasn't involved too much, or that was my Google-translated understanding of his words. That he and Antonello handled the day-to-day management of the club.

What does this mean exactly?

#Marotta sulla Super League: "Questa operazione è stata condotta con riservatezza dalle proprietà.

Wings · Apr 21, 2021

Fapuccino said:
This is bullshit. Serie A is a national league, the other is international. They're two entirely different competitions that ideally should have no relation to one another.

What? So the whole time that we were fighting to get back into the top 3 or 4, you were stewing that this shouldn't have to be the way?

When has qualification to European competition not depended on your league position or domestic cups? (With the exception of winning CL or EL.) There's always been a relation between domestic and int'l in living memory. You've had a problem with this entire concept?

Fapuccino · Apr 22, 2021

Wings said:
What? So the whole time that we were fighting to get back into the top 3 or 4, you were stewing that this shouldn't have to be the way?

When has qualification to European competition not depended on your league position or domestic cups? (With the exception of winning CL or EL.) There's always been a relation between domestic and int'l in living memory. You've had a problem with this entire concept?

Having UCL depend on previous year's domestic competition is like using EUROs to qualify for the World Cup. They're 2 completely different tournaments and Serie A will exist regardless of what happens in Europe. Using berths is just a way to limit the number of entrants because you can't have 100 teams in one competition.

UEFA wants the "big teams" in the Champions League because it's good for their pockets. Don't kid yourself. They carved the UEFA Cup open and made that shitstain of Europa League just to make a super league. Now they're using "historic qualification" to essentially do a more mild version of ESL. At the end of the day there are way more people internationally that want to see an 8th placed Inter or Milan over 4th placed Atalanta or Fiorentina. If clubs want to form their own international competition it is entirely within their right because they're capitalizing on their own brand.

Ethor · Apr 22, 2021

CafeCordoba said:
Marotta himself said after Spezia-match that he wasn't involved too much, or that was my Google-translated understanding of his words. That he and Antonello handled the day-to-day management of the club.

What does this mean exactly?

Cover your ass, or don't bother me I'm digging a deep foxhole to hide.

pupivn · Apr 22, 2021

Ethor said:
Marotta himself said after Spezia-match that he wasn't involved too much, or that was my Google-translated understanding of his words. That he and Antonello handled the day-to-day management of the club.

What does this mean exactly?

Cover your ass, or don't bother me I'm digging a deep foxhole to hide.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/3D1CGhwCPbGu9hw9WlQ75e

Romano mentioned in his podcast that decision was in high level, owner, chairman and president. Others may know about project but not involve hence I'm not surprised when Maldini didn't know

IM21 · Apr 22, 2021

Romano - Florentino Perez to El Larguero: “Juventus and AC Milan have not left the #SuperLeague. Real Madrid, Barcelona, Juventus and AC Milan are still in talks to find solutions”. &#55357;&#57000;

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SiamoNoi · Apr 22, 2021

Fapuccino said:
Having UCL depend on previous year's domestic competition is like using EUROs to qualify for the World Cup.

Wtf

At this point just genuinely hope that you are from Brazil and you can't understand the European concept and football culture in general.

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