Marcelo Brozović

brehme1989 said:

Manchester United has limited ability to buy players at the moment due to their potential takeover and they also have to get rid of 3 central midfielders before considering getting a new one.
They have Casemiro, Eriksen, Bruno Fernandes, Fred, McTominay, Van de Beek and plays a 4-2-3-1 where Brozovic doesn't really thrive in anyway. Brozo is best at 4-3-3 or 3-5-2, in a 3 man midfield whatever it is.

Real Madrid is rather offended. And they don't have any space for him either. Modric, Kroos, Camavinga, Tchouameni, Valverde, just got Bellingham and they just extended Dani Ceballos a week ago. So where does Brozovic fit?

PSG? They have Verratti in that role, Vitinha, Carlos Soler, Fabian Ruiz, Renato Sanches and they also got Danilo Pereira for the DM role. And they have Paredes back who they want to get rid of.
Liverpool has to get rid of Thiago's fat contract, they have Henderson who they like there, there's Fabinho, they managed to get rid of Keita who they got McAllister to replace him with. And Szoboszlai is going over there who fits their culture more.
Chelsea... lol
Other Italian teams cannot even entertain such a thought.
Atletico Madrid are in a weird situation financially but could make a move. Which Brozovic would consider a downgrade. As he'd consider both Arsenal and Tottenham downgrades.


Just because a player can be had doesn't mean anyone with a big wallet will go get him. Just like we have players we could improve on (eg Dumfries) or have to sell (eg Correa), same applies to everyone else. And typically you sell before you buy and when you pay top dollar it's harder to sell a player who'll treat it as a voluntary demotion.

The only top teams that have a spot for Brozovic are Barcelona and Manchester City. And both have expressed their interest.


And again, you're ignoring that Real Madrid, Liverpool and PSG already tried and failed to get him last season when they didn't even have to give us anything. 12 months ago was their shot and he told them no.

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So, irrespective of historic demand, no one else seems to be in for him RIGHT NOW. And to the question I asked on the previous page - what are our options?

1 - Dont invest in the squad, and accept that we're gonna play Lautaro-Correa
2 - Swap with Kessie
3 - Sell Broz for 18m
4 - Sell Onana for <50m
5 - Sell Barella? Lautaro?

No one's offering 25m for Broz, or 30m for Broz. The only offer we have in hand right now is 18m. So its a yes or a no to that.

.h. said:

So, irrespective of historic demand, no one else seems to be in for him RIGHT NOW. And to the question I asked on the previous page - what are our options?

1 - Dont invest in the squad, and accept that we're gonna play Lautaro-Correa
2 - Swap with Kessie
3 - Sell Broz for 18m
4 - Sell Onana for <50m
5 - Sell Barella? Lautaro?

No one's offering 25m for Broz, or 30m for Broz. The only offer we have in hand right now is 18m. So its a yes or a no to that.

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Why does Brozovic have to go? Why did we extend him last season if we actually want him out? Why make him our highest earner only to ship him? What does that signal to anyone else that's here for years? Or who may want to come here?

The first option you keep laying out is stupid. We already got Thuram, anyway. And Correa is up for sale, he rejected a couple of PL moves already because he wants to stay in Italy.

Kessie swap doesn't make sense from a sporting perspective for us, neither financially. It only helps the books. And we seem to want to pump up the income statement, not make capital gains. So this move wouldn't make sense based on our policy to keep a "zero transfer budget".

Sell Brozovic for 18m is not an option. We wouldn't sell Dumfries for that... If selling Brozovic for 18m doesn't cry "I'm kicking you out" I don't know what does.


Onana is the club's sacrificial lamb and it makes sense as much as Inzaghi isn't a fan of such move, but selling him for 50m or 60m is stupid given how crazy the market is and how much historically some clubs paid for him. Chelsea don't want to deal with us because we didn't cave with their pathetic offers with player exchanges, so I doubt they'd throw 80m for him as they would if this was another club.

Nope, Barella and Lautaro do not need to be sold.


You can sell Gosens (20m), you can sell Dumfries (20-25m), you can sell Sensi (5m), you can sell Correa (10m), you can sell Onana I suppose for 60-70m to Manchester United if you push them enough, all you have to do is wait a bit longer... We're already selling some kids, you can sell Radu, Lazaro, Colidio, perhaps Esposito, Satriano etc and make up 15m.

You don't need to spend 35m on Pavard or 30m on Lukaku to reinforce this squad. Just because our plan sucks, doesn't mean we have to support selling a key, loyal player. And there's also no need to imagine that no one else wants him.


Why doesn't anyone else want Onana if that's the case? Why only 50m from Manchester United? Why did Chelsea abandon that train and why didn't they offer more than 45m?
Why isn't Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid, Barcelona, PSG, Manchester City, Liverpool or Bayern on him as well? Is there no market for Onana either?

Well, we clearly need some level of plusvalenza for investing in the squad. So basically my point re 1 is 'we sell very little'. You're right re Thuram, so lets call it Lautaro+Thuram. That's not a material impact on the point I'm trying to make, though.


And, yes, I agree the Kessie swap doesnt make any sense. That's the other option for Broz though right now, so its either sell him for 18m to Saudi, swap him for Kessie, or keep him.


We can say we'd like to sell Onana for 50 or 60m, but again, theres no evidence of that. Latest rumour is United have walked away at 50m and are looking elsewhere for keepers. So the question is probably more like... Sell Onana for 40 or 45m?

RE Gosens at 20- there seems to be no demand for him really. There's been a lot of talk of bids in recent weeks, but nothing - as far as I know - has materialised. Also, we signed him 12 months ago for 28mil on a 4 year contract (I think), so that's book value of 21mil right now. Selling him for 20mil doesnt give us any plusvalenza really, and probably doesnt give us much income if we havent actually paid him off yet.


Dumfries for 25 is higher on my list than Brozovic as well. I'd agree. But there's not even a rumour of a bid for him, let alone actual negotiations as far as I know right now, so again - its completely academic.

Correa for 10m is a significant capital, and income, loss.

Sensi for 5m, is probably about net neutral. I'd expect it to happen, but its not exactly making any major impact on our ability to sign a new CB or new striker.


On the kids front, it depends on the specifics obviously - Colidio actually came with quite a high transfer fee, so dont be surprised if his net capital gains for us is only like +2-3mil. Satriano I'm not sure either. I'm sure we can swap out some of those kids for a few mils plusvalenza and cashflow, but not much more than that.


And, yes, there doesnt seem to be much market for Onana. The only rumour and demand for him right now is United at like 40mil. I think he's a better player than that, but I can also see why (a) kicked out of Cameroon squad (b) doping ban of sorts (c) on a Bosman 12 months ago, his value isnt higher than that.


And, for me, I'd rather keep Onana at 40mil than Brozovic at 18mil. Personal view.



But, lets take Brozovic at face value. If we sold him for 18m this summer, that's a +30mil impact on our financial statements *for this specific year* - how would you propose to, realistically, achieve that otherwise? Gosens for 20mil is only saving his amortisation + wages, so maybe 11mil this year? Dumfries for 25mil would give us about 18mil plusvalenza + salary savings, so call it like 29mil (+7mil saved amortisation, +18mil plusvalenza, +4mil salary but I cant remember his exact salary) on the financial statement - ASSUMING anyone was willing to buy him for that, which doesnt so much seem to be the case? Sensi was on a 4 year contract 3 years ago, so his unamortised value should be about 6.25mil - so selling him for 5mil actually makes very little impact on this year's financial statement...

Correa for 10m - he signed 3 year contract at 27mil last summer, so he's unamortised value right now is 18mil - his annual cost to us is 9mil + salary, so selling him for 10mil would actually put us like +3-4mil compared to the baseline of 'he stays at Inter'

And also clubs are simply not giving in to our demands anymore because they know we will eventually give in to theirs.
As for Onana, as mentioned previously, Manchester has a 100 mil limit for transfers due to FFP and they already got Mount for 60. Easy math - Onana is too expensive, not that they wouldnt pay the 50-60 mil if they could.

.h. said:

So, irrespective of historic demand, no one else seems to be in for him RIGHT NOW. And to the question I asked on the previous page - what are our options?

1 - Dont invest in the squad, and accept that we're gonna play Lautaro-Correa
2 - Swap with Kessie
3 - Sell Broz for 18m
4 - Sell Onana for <50m
5 - Sell Barella? Lautaro?

No one's offering 25m for Broz, or 30m for Broz. The only offer we have in hand right now is 18m. So its a yes or a no to that.

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Dude, you are constantly talking nonsense. You are repeating some fucking questions over and over.

Sorry but this guy drives me crazy

I was seeing some Twitter about which players they really want in their club.

The top 5 answer is : from most popular to less popular.


1. Barella
2. Lautaro
3. Bastoni
4. Onana
5. Dimarco

I wonder how you feel, the management must be don't know which player you prefer to cash in.

In Marotta mind which is pro Italian, the choice are between Lautaro and Onana of course.

Remember we have much debt because of Zhang, of course we need sell one of our star every year.

Meysam said:

Dude, you are constantly talking nonsense. You are repeating some fucking questions over and over.

Sorry but this guy drives me crazy

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Then you dont have to respond? Lmfao

Brehme is trying to explore the question more deeply, which is fair enough and I'd really like to walk it through with him because its actually quite interesting. If you dont enjoy the convo, go get a coffee or go for a walk. I dont really care. No one asked you to participate, you chose to.

And if I really drive you nuts, put me on your ignore list so I never have to think about you again

Damageplan said:

And also clubs are simply not giving in to our demands anymore because they know we will eventually give in to theirs.
As for Onana, as mentioned previously, Manchester has a 100 mil limit for transfers due to FFP and they already got Mount for 60. Easy math - Onana is too expensive, not that they wouldnt pay the 50-60 mil if they could.

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I hope that's the case. I'd still rather not sell onana but as we seem set on it, hopefully we get the 60m from united for him. That being said I don't know what their timeline is for resolving their ownership situatuon

if I am settled at marotta position, I definitely quit the job. might be done since 2021 (when my boss suning are confirmed bankrupt and bailed out by my boss government). like Giuntoli did yesterday. (he quit Napoli and chose better "more ambitious" project in Dopentus)

Corrode said:

if I am settled at marotta position, I definitely quit the job. might be since 2021 (when my boss suning are confirmed bankrupt and bailed out by my boss government)

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Lol
Well yeah there's that as well

Corrode said:

if I am settled at marotta position, I definitely quit the job. might be done since 2021 (when my boss suning are confirmed bankrupt and bailed out by my boss government). like Giuntoli did yesterday. (he quit Napoli and chose better "more ambitious" project in Dopentus)

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Marotta got paid 5.5m back in 2019 so I'm assuming he's making at least the same if not more. Why would he walk away?

brakbrak said:

Marotta got paid 5.5m back in 2019 so I'm assuming he's making at least the same if not more. Why would he walk away?

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to be fair, i think it was a joke, and i found it kinda funny at least, he has been working under very challenging circumstances for a while. must be hard on the soul

brehme1989 said:

You can sell Gosens (20m), you can sell Dumfries (20-25m), you can sell Sensi (5m), you can sell Correa (10m), you can sell Onana I suppose for 60-70m to Manchester United if you push them enough, all you have to do is wait a bit longer... We're already selling some kids, you can sell Radu, Lazaro, Colidio, perhaps Esposito, Satriano etc and make up 15m.

You don't need to spend 35m on Pavard or 30m on Lukaku to reinforce this squad. Just because our plan sucks, doesn't mean we have to support selling a key, loyal player. And there's also no need to imagine that no one else wants him.


Why doesn't anyone else want Onana if that's the case? Why only 50m from Manchester United? Why did Chelsea abandon that train and why didn't they offer more than 45m?
Why isn't Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid, Barcelona, PSG, Manchester City, Liverpool or Bayern on him as well? Is there no market for Onana either?

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Very much my sentiment.

Hold up, we got the narrative : Brozovic had negative body language and performed poor in training.

I just read that Inter was not happy with him for playing for Croatia, for him waving his arms during games, “acting lazy” and such crap. Hahaha. Man you can’t make this shit up. Bravo Broz. Finally free from those disrespectful morons. Come back to Dinamo in 3 years .

Hand waving a problem? Then Barella better watch it, and then why in hell would you resign a loan for Lukaku with a financially crippling buy clause. Guess, mgmt wants us to believe the lie.

Tom80 said:

I just read that Inter was not happy with him for playing for Croatia, for him waving his arms during games, “acting lazy” and such crap. Hahaha. Man you can’t make this shit up. Bravo Broz. Finally free from those disrespectful morons. Come back to Dinamo in 3 years .

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Looks like fake stuff. I know our management is retarded for this is too much.

brehme1989 said:

Why does Brozovic have to go?

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It's not particularly Brozo, but most probably (like 95% for me) Zhang told to Marotta that the budget is 0, and he has to reinforce the team only through sales, and the wage bill shall be reduced as well. There is 0 offers for Dumbfries. Correa doesn't want to move outside of Italy. Barella turned down all offers towards him, no rumors about Bastoni, Hakan and Lautaro so far. So, Marotta is trying to sell Brozovic, Onana and Gosens in order to collect some money and to strengthen the squad. Brozovic is easy to be replaced as Hakan already proved that, and his salary is one of the highest. He potentially should have fueled the deal for Frattesi - young and promising midfielder, who could be sold after few seasons for big money, or to be a replacement of Barella, when the latter get tired of the club's attempts to sell him, and finally accept some offer. Unfortunately we are about to spend huge (for us) money on 30 years old Lakaka, which most probably is a request by Zhang, as it's not typical Marotta signing. I personally would sell Hakan if he attracts some decent bid (like 30mln), and keep Brozo,. instead selling him for peanuts, but there is no interest at Hakan at all.

This transfer is beyond pathethic. It's embarassing on so many levels.

Cocksman said:

But knowbody (or very little) wanted him. His value is what others want for it.

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How about not selling him at all? We should have been happy nobody wanted him.

Meysam said:

Inter(Marotta) reminds me of jordan belfort in the movie "The Wolf of Wall Street"

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They remind me of M. Jordan running Hornets. Absolutely clueless.

varmin said:

It's not particularly Brozo, but most probably (like 95% for me) Zhang told to Marotta that the budget is 0, and he has to reinforce the team only through sales, and the wage bill shall be reduced as well. There is 0 offers for Dumbfries. Correa doesn't want to move outside of Italy. Barella turned down all offers towards him, no rumors about Bastoni, Hakan and Lautaro so far. So, Marotta is trying to sell Brozovic, Onana and Gosens in order to collect some money and to strengthen the squad. Brozovic is easy to be replaced as Hakan already proved that, and his salary is one of the highest. He potentially should have fueled the deal for Frattesi - young and promising midfielder, who could be sold after few seasons for big money, or to be a replacement of Barella, when the latter get tired of the club's attempts to sell him, and finally accept some offer. Unfortunately we are about to spend huge (for us) money on 30 years old Lakaka, which most probably is a request by Zhang, as it's not typical Marotta signing. I personally would sell Hakan if he attracts some decent bid (like 30mln), and keep Brozo,. instead selling him for peanuts, but there is no interest at Hakan at all.

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Transfer market literally started. And you can get 18M for Brozović any day in next two months. These are just really bad excuses and lazy way to operate for someone who is paid as much as Marotta is paid. And it's not first time he is acting lazy and unimaginative like this.