Inter - Chievo Verona (13 Jan 14)

Karamja said:

Nyall, that Barcelona video you posted though… really, it’s kinda pathetic. I know you just did a quick search and all but do you think there might be a reason why both ratings and comments have been disabled on that video? lol. I’m just wondering, did you post that video solely to show that we also got decisions in our favor or do you seriously think we won 2010 Champions League with the help of referees?

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Tbh, I didn't even watch the video beyond the first 5 seconds, but I knew that it was probably made by some butthurt Barcelona fans and would have conveyed my point. Referees are shitty but we have benefitted from them just as we have fallen victim to them. But that is to be expected as they are human. I don't believe that there was a Uefapoli that helped us win the Champions League, just like I don't believe that there's a Calciopoli now.

And all this time I thought it was thanks to your thread making skills.


blivious:

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It was. And don't you dare believe otherwise. :datass:
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Also Nyall, I understand you have made the point that we should put our concern on our play instead of referees, and I agree, that’s much more important because we have lost way more points thanks to that than on referees (and also it doesn’t really help to flame the referees and make excuses). However, I still think, considering that our bad luck with referees really has been out of the ordinary, we should at least be able to, without making it an excuse to our bad play and without putting any primary focus on it, address the fact to FIGC or whatever that we are disappointed with the referees and we would like to see future decisive calls to be whistled correctly.

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I don't watch nearly watch enough Italian football, but I'm pretty sure the fans of almost every team in the mid to low table has as much or even a bigger case about referees costing them than we do. It's not like we're the only team getting wrong calls against them, team's get, have gotten and will continue to get penalties from dives, legit goals called offside, and many other wrong calls. And this is the result of having a human as the one to make that decision. And it can get frustrating an even seem suspicious when it seems as if things are going against you time and time again but as I've said time and time again, had we been playing well and winning these games, the referees would not even be a talking point.

Last year I refereed in a (semi-competitive-but-mostly-amateur) indoor league. Where I would internally cheer for the underdog team (who would be clearly outmatched) and try to give them a subtle but not at all obvious advantage (by calling a foul and weak contact, giving them throw ins on not 50-50 decisions, etc.) and even with that the teams would still lose and do so significantly. In fact, the only time I ever got complaints during my entire season was during a match between two good teams, where a foul occurred (I was at a bad angle and didn't see it), so I didn't blow the whistle, a player went down, the team shot and scored (I allowed the goal to stand, because it was not until after I had learned that the player kicked the player [accidentally] but still...]and took the lead, the match ended up finishing in a draw and because there was playoff implications the team that was on the wrong side of me letting the goal stand was livid, I wa just trying to be as fair as possible to both teams yet one team legitimately felt they were screwed by me...

Do you agree on this or do you think our situation with referees this season has been all normal? And if we happened to go through also the second half of the season missing out on every single penalty that’s also no reason to bat an eye?

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With the way we play, yes. I'm not talking about the offsides, mind you, but about the penalties. I have no statistics to prove this, so this is purely observation based, but we spend almost no time with the ball at our player's feet in the box. It may be shocking to read that we have had no penalties so far, but when you watch us play, it shouldn't surprise anyone, and our players who do get the ball in the box, dropping like they've been shot the minute they feel any nudge of contact is never going to help the situation. The last Inter coach to focus so heavily on crossing was Ranieri in 2012 and he too got no penalties in February and March (until he started playing real football again).

And btw, you should totally meet up with Armes. Despite different opinions I’m sure you two will be a great match

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The only people I'd want to meet on this forum is blackmore, Micheal and Azzkikr to see what they actually look like and Pimpin to get to know the man behind the weiner.

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Those refs really helped us out in CL. milito's offside goal was of course what got us through, unlike pique's offside goal. or milito's onside one on one with valdes that was disallowed during the first tie. clear one sided favoritism towards us.

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Look at all that ammunition we would have had to complain about had we gone out. But instead we didn't make videos, we didn't dwell on it. Shit, most of us even forgot about it, why? Because we won the tie.

Does anyone realize we still have 0 penalties this season along with Chievo?

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In the same breath, you do realize that only two penalties have been given against us this season right?

But hey that's ok. Rube is playing better than us, so that justifies being denied 2 penalties and 1 onside goal within the space of 3 games, because mazzari is a whiny cunt.

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We were denied 1 onside goal. Botta's last minute whatever you call it, was never going to be given as a penalty, period. Botta has already heading to the ground before contact was even made. I cannot for the life of me recall the incident where the other supposed penalty occurred. I just do remember Mazzari complaining after the Napoli and Lazio matches.

We have 0 penalties this season.... I don't know know or care if it's calciopoli II, shitty refereeing, god's work, or w/e.

All I know is that this is fucking ridiculous and something has to be done about it. Either uncover what the fuck is going on, or send all the fucking refs to the psychotherapists office.

Fapuccino said:

We have 0 penalties this season.... I don't know know or care if it's calciopoli II, shitty refereeing, god's work, or w/e.

All I know is that this is fucking ridiculous and something has to be done about it. Either uncover what the fuck is going on, or send all the fucking refs to the psychotherapists office.

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Is there some rule that all teams must have X number of penalties?

sneijder made a penalty (he tackled I think Iniesta from behind) and Maicon played with his arm in the penalty box

the pique goal is offside only to Inter fans.....

wera said:

sneijder made a penalty (he tackled I think Iniesta from behind) and Maicon played with his arm in the penalty box

the pique goal is offside only to Inter fans.....

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Milito was one on one with Valdes first tie and he was wrongly called offside. That couldve changed the whole tie. Pique's goal was offside they did the imaginary line thing in an english show, pique's whole upper body was offside. Go read some live comments after the game, 99 pcent of ppl saying it was offside not just inter fans.

And people still have guts to talk about refs after busquets play acting we had to play almost the whole second leg with 10 people in the fucking camp nou. We had calls our way, but we were more fucked by them than anything. Pique wouldnt have even had the chance to score offside goals if we had 11 players.

For every call our way, we had 2-3 even worse ones. Today we dont even get any calls our way anymore just the bad ones. Playing badly is not an excuse for shitty refereeing.

Milito's goal at the San Siro was undoubtedly offside, and you can't say that couldn't have changed everything.

Not saying we weren't deserving of winning the treble, but you can't handpick arbitration mistakes.

Milito didnt score at Camp Nou... blivious:

pencilpal said:

Milito's goal at the Camp Nou was undoubtedly offside, and you can't say that couldn't have changed everything.

Not saying we weren't deserving of winning the treble, but you can't handpick arbitration mistakes.

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Mate I'm talking about this very early, before Barcelona scored in the first tie.\



And that was my point. We got calls our way, but we also got fucked in the ass for every call we got. Today it's only the latter part.

And us playing poorly, should have nothing to do with refs being shit or bending over.

TEAM FAPBOY FTW!

Ok lads. Go look at Rube's penalty. The defender breathes on Vidal, he falls down, penalty. I'm pretty fucking sure we would've been booked for diving for that.

Meanwhile Milito is pulled down by his arm, Palacio is tripped like he's in WWE. nope, no sir. Inter are playing like shit, they dont deserve penalties.

Fapuccino said:

Mate I'm talking about this very early, before Barcelona scored in the first tie.\

And that was my point. We got calls our way, but we also got fucked in the ass for every call we got. Today it's only the latter part.

And us playing poorly, should have nothing to do with refs being shit or bending over.

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Fucking barcelona supporters trying to brainwash us and now finally I have that freaking picture.

Fapuccino said:

Mate I'm talking about this very early, before Barcelona scored in the first tie.\

And that was my point. We got calls our way, but we also got fucked in the ass for every call we got. Today it's only the latter part.

And us playing poorly, should have nothing to do with refs being shit or bending over.

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Wasn't talking about today's situation, just wanted to point out how we had calls that went for us as well as calls that went against us against Barcelona

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Ok lads. Go look at Rube's penalty. The defender breathes on Vidal, he falls down, penalty. I'm pretty fucking sure we would've been booked for diving for that.

Meanwhile Milito is pulled down by his arm, Palacio is tripped like he's in WWE. nope, no sir. Inter are playing like shit, they dont deserve penalties.

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haha thats what ive said too after the penalty was given. SHAME, i want JUSTICE!

The fact we are still talking about this shows how butthurt the entire human race is about everything.

Bringing a heated discussion of a 4 years old CL mistaken offside decision into a midyear normal league fixture vs Chievo

I pray that everyone here who is so vocal about the refs hurting us by not giving us penalties were the same way 2006-2010 when we got a lot of favourable decisions.

Nyall said:

I pray that everyone here who is so vocal about the refs hurting us by not giving us penalties were the same way 2006-2010 when we got a lot of favourable decisions.

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"justice"

Nyall said:

I pray that everyone here who is so vocal about the refs hurting us by not giving us penalties were the same way 2006-2010 when we got a lot of favourable decisions.

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And Nyall as always ignores what he doesn't want to read.

The difference between then and now, is that then we got calls our way along with bad calls. Which is the norm. Today, we simply get bad calls over and over.

You bring out the calls that went our way, but you never bring out the bad calls as well, which were even worse a lot of the time. Why don't you give us a list of all the good shit that has gone our way this season, and I'll guarantee you the fucked over list is 10x as big.

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Since you're Canadian you prob watched the Footy Show once or twice. A year ago, even they, who I'm quite sure are not Italian footy fans, said refereeing was getting out of hand because of Juve favouritism. They said it was getting ridiculous and something had to be done about it.

But Im guessing they were too biased.

I see everyone on the last three pages has lost their mind. In my opinion, I prefer not to rely on the referees and play a brand of football that will unquestionably give the team results. What we are seeing is a mass psychosis, from the fans and an expert psychological ruse by Mazzarri. We know we aren't playing well, the tactics subpar and the personnel are langusing so desperate fans and an inept coach cry out for desperate penalties.

When you have 2 strikers on the pitch and create NO shooting chances as in our last game, the entire system is compromised and broken. I could give a shit about a referee.

* Also fuck that Barca video hard, pure propaganda.

And Nyall as always ignores what he doesn't want to read.

The difference between then and now, is that then we got calls our way along with bad calls. Which is the norm. Today, we simply get bad calls over and over.

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not really.. getting 0 penalties thus far is unusual, but was that any worse than getting double digit penalties for several seasons, tripling the number the conceded? Was it normal for us to get several offside goals? Was it normal that coaches from more than half the teams in the league at one point or the other complained at our favorable treatment from referees?

We were the Juventus of now and to try to even argue otherwise would be like a conservative trying to argue that Fox News is fair and balanced. What we never got in our favor however were the FIGC decisions, in that time, I genuinely believed that they had it out for us, with their multi-game suspensions for clapping and diving, but all of those would happen post match.

You bring out the calls that went our way, but you never bring out the bad calls as well, which were even worse a lot of the time. Why don't you give us a list of all the good shit that has gone our way this season, and I'll guarantee you the fucked over list is 10x as big.

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I highly doubt it will be 10 times... it was only 4 or 5 weeks ago Mazzari started complaining about refs [about the same time we stopped winning] and since then it has caught on like wildfire.. In the 19 Serie A games we've played in there's only been two penalties for or against us, its not as if we've been conceding penalties left and right, also unless I've missed something, Monday's game was the first time this season that we've had a rightful goal disallowed for being offside..

Up until a few weeks ago I didn't even feel that there was a reason to start taking note of refereeing, good or bad, so tbh if I were to comprise a list of decisions I wouldn't even know where to start.

Since you're Canadian you prob watched the Footy Show once or twice. A year ago, even they, who I'm quite sure are not Italian footy fans, said refereeing was getting out of hand because of Juve favouritism. They said it was getting ridiculous and something had to be done about it.

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Not even once, would I ever give the stinking pile of shit that is FSC the time of day. Their bias against us, during that same period I mentioned was like Goal.com's.

I'm not saying that Juventus don't get a lot of calls, but these decisions are independent of us. Juve getting soft penalties [a term btw, that became very popular in the Mancini era, for the Italian media, when we would get legitimate penalties but the amount of contact didn't meet their standard] or being 18-1-1 doesn't affect us, unless of course you're one of those conspiracy believers and think the Calciopoli is happening again and that Juve is targeting us [obviously their only competition].

Why are you guys repeating the exact same shit, that Juve and especially Roma fans were saying about us, 5-6 years ago? I know it doesn't fit into the model of being a fan and everything but we can't be right just because we're Inter or they can't always be wrong just because they are not Inter.