Mercato Team (Ausilio, Marotta, & Co.) and Strategies

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They finished third last season and have done nothing to close the gap. In what is it not a bad thing...

Do players want to go to Spurs?

Ill add to the other people here who are saying they are doing well developing their own players and keeping their top players.
 

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we increased cost of our team by 43 mil.
well thats the price of free agents with high salary

- € 71.080.000
+ € 27.520.885
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- € 43.559.115

IN

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OUT

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Basically we kept every useful player, got rid of the garbage and added some quality/depth players. Noice.
 

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Rafinha and Cancelo missing on the "OUT" list, no? At least on the salary calculation.
 

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Before the 1st official match of the season i want to give an evaluation to the work of Ausilio and the guys. Overall grade for me is 8+ which can be calculated from the below:

Income Transfers: Grade ( 9.0)
It would be 9.5 with Modric in . With our huge limitations from the settlement agreement i think Ausilio has done a fantastic work.
For the 1st time in many years our signings were all focused in improving the 1st team hence creating depth as a consequence not the other way around. IT was visible how this mercato was a product of a stable environment ( team - coaching staff - directors) which have been together for some time. It is clear how we intervened in all the weak points of last year , defense depth, full back quality , physical AM instead of creative ( spallo fetish) , goal threat and flair wingers, icardi partner. And except of Martinez all these entries were consolidated players from big team which is great. If we win the Lautaro bet as well than hat down to the staff

Outgoing Transfers: Grade (6.0)
Honestly it can be even lower. People shouldn't be confused from May movements with the kids ,they were some shady deals that everyone in italy is doing now to fool FFP. Chievo risked relegation from these kind of deals , probably ours are more sophisticated than that anyway i don't get excited by them.
Our revenue streams should have come from the various Joao Marios, Vecino, Candreva , Eder etc and lucky for us Eder agreed to go in China or else we would have been stuck with him as well. I understand selling might be more difficult but we just suck at it.
Fortunately we managed to offload Santon in the naingolan deal which gives for me the 6 grade instead of lower.

Bonus grade +1 : Overall image
The fact that we were serious contenders to get the likes of Vidal and Modric for me is a sign of the growth of the club. Doesn't matter if we didn't sign them , the feeling i got this mercato was that we are in the right track and if we managed to have some solid results this year in League and CL i am optimistic next summer will be very excited since SA will be over as well
 

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How it would have been if we took Vidal at the right time...
 

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How it would have been if we took Vidal at the right time...

Well I imagine Dalbert would have played awful, lost his man who would have ran into the box where the referee made a bad call that Miranda fouled him, they score a penalty and our forwards fail to score for the remainder of the game while Vidal might have only played a short period in the second half because he's not fully fit after injury. Sassuolo 1-0 Inter
 
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I've stumbled upon a pretty interesting podcast by Malcolm Gladwell, a slightly controversial pop science author with a couple of, after all, pretty interesting and well-written books.

In any case he's making the point of football being a "weak link" sport, whereas basketball, for example, is a "strong link" type of sport. The idea, in short, is that a superstar player can't do so much on his own, so teams should be investing in replacing their weakest links, not buying a Hazards and playing with Dalberts, but replacing Dalberts en masse.

Here's the link to the podcast - "My Little Hundred Million". And here's a transcript of that part:

Let me run an idea by you which I think helps to frame this question. It has to do with soccer; actually, the difference between soccer and basketball.

MG 10:45
This idea comes from two economists named David Sally and Chris Anderson who wrote a really great book a couple years ago about soccer called The Numbers Game.


MG 10:55
One of the questions they asked was what matters more if you want to build a great soccer team, how good your best player is or how good your worst player is? And their answer was, “In soccer, what matters is how good your worst player is.”


DS 11:09
Soccer is a game where if you get a single goal, if you just happen to be lucky, that goal may hold up.


DS 11:17
And so, mistakes turn out to be a very important part of soccer as a team sport. That leads you to think about, well, mistakes more often happen, are more often produced by weaker players on the pitch.


MG 11:29
Sally's argument goes like this. A soccer team has 11 players on the field at any one time. Suppose one is a superstar and your worst player is maybe only 45% as good as the superstar.

Because soccer is a sport where everyone on the field depends on everyone else, that 45% player can make one mistake and completely negate the skill of the best player.


CA 11:53
You could have 8 beautiful passes in a row, but if your worst player, your 45% player, botches the ninth, then all the previous 8 beautiful passes are all wasted.


DS 12:03
That's right and because of the nature of soccer, the, that, these 8 beautiful passes may have only increased your likelihood of victory by a small percent but then it goes right back to zero because somebody turns the ball over.


MG 12:17
Sally and Anderson did a statistical analysis. They looked at the top soccer clubs in Europe and showed that, if those teams upgraded their poorest players instead of their best players, they would score more goals and win more games, a lot more. Soccer is a weakling game.


DS 12:34
Yes, having a better superstar was of, course, better but actually having a better end of the bench or eleventh guy on the pitch was actually more influential to whether you won matches or not.


MG 12:46
Which would be the exact opposite of basketball?


DS 12:49
Yeah, basketball is probably the opposite and the continuum from... If you think about soccer as maybe the weakest link sport; basketball is probably the most superstar driven team sport that we have.


MG 13:01
Even the greatest basketball teams often have one and sometimes even two players who are barely better than mediocre. What matters in basketball is not how good your fifth player is, it's how good your superstar is. It's a strong link game.


MG 13:16
Think about Lionel Messi, maybe the greatest soccer player of his generation, versus Michael Jordan, the greatest basketball player his generation.


DS 13:25
What Jordan could do on a basketball court was Jordan could guarantee, or virtually guarantee, that he could get the ball; you couldn't really stop him, right? He could go to the back court, pick up the ball, he could dribble it forward, he could break double teams, you could try to send three guys at him, but then you're really, you're really opening yourself up, he could go and get a shot.


DS 13:47
Leo Messi is so good that sometimes, rare times, where, in fact, he can dribble the length of the pitch. But the fact is that he, he, he, he, in most instances, he really can't. He needs to be, he needs those eight beautiful passes to set him up and then he can do something amazingly transcendent with it.

Of course this makes sense if we exclude the whole "future squad building" part of the equation, but I'm interested to hear what you guys think about that argument.
 

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I've stumbled upon a pretty interesting podcast by Malcolm Gladwell, a slightly controversial pop science author with a couple of, after all, pretty interesting and well-written books.

In any case he's making the point of football being a "weak link" sport, whereas basketball, for example, is a "strong link" type of sport. The idea, in short, is that a superstar player can't do so much on his own, so teams should be investing in replacing their weakest links, not buying a Hazards and playing with Dalberts, but replacing Dalberts en masse.

Here's the link to the podcast - "My Little Hundred Million". And here's a transcript of that part:



Of course this makes sense if we exclude the whole "future squad building" part of the equation, but I'm interested to hear what you guys think about that argument.


It s not a bad argument but they completely ignore that mediocre players surrounded by 8/9 great players will look a lot better especially if the team play is working.
I mean look at Barca we ve seen many players of their youth teams look good at barca and they turned out pretty bad when. Also our treble squad had arnautovic and Muntari in it two players i would call pretty bad.
Would also love to see that statistical analysis where he proved that replacing the weakest link would be better than replacing their best player. Also this is kind of intuitive and very seldom do teams replace their best player it s often a guy somewhere in the middle. Anyway would love to see how this statistic looks cause it s all based on what ifs and not facts.

Also the fact that they leave out the importance of the player is very questionable they baisicaly say replace your weakest link no matter what his role is.
But for most teams that would mean up grading a player that plays maybe 3 full games a season and i dont see how that would help anybody more than replacing a regular who is good but there s a better player on the market.

Also his basketball analogy is also jus kind of true yes superstars matter more in the NBA but even jordan could not win titles by him self he always had pippen by his side and later also rodman. Same can be seen in todays NBA even 2 allstars on your roster are not enough anymore to compete for the title.

I still would agree with the generally findings of the study but i dont think that simply always replacing your weakest link will lead to success, you wuld have to combine it with some kind of metric that also takes into account how many minutes the player in question actually plays.
 

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I've stumbled upon a pretty interesting podcast by Malcolm Gladwell, a slightly controversial pop science author with a couple of, after all, pretty interesting and well-written books.

In any case he's making the point of football being a "weak link" sport, whereas basketball, for example, is a "strong link" type of sport. The idea, in short, is that a superstar player can't do so much on his own, so teams should be investing in replacing their weakest links, not buying a Hazards and playing with Dalberts, but replacing Dalberts en masse.

Here's the link to the podcast - "My Little Hundred Million". And here's a transcript of that part:



Of course this makes sense if we exclude the whole "future squad building" part of the equation, but I'm interested to hear what you guys think about that argument.

I don't agree with it all that much, a fifth of your team being average like they say happens in basketball happens in football too. We won the treble with Chivu and Pandev who were absolutely garbage. Croatia reached the WC final with like half the team being average or even mediocre and only one or two superstars.

And you absolutely need superstar players to win championships, when was the last time a team without 2 or 3 top players won anything important in football.

The difference is that in football there's more moving parts 11 vs 5, and there's less margin for error lower scores. However in football is much more difficult to break opposing teams and most times the only way to do that is with cracks.

And Messi isn't comparable to Jordan, the only one that could be compared with Jordan was Ronaldo, but he was plagued with injuries his whole career. Also Jordan's bulls were stacked: Pippen was no joke and Rodman was one of the best defensive players ever.
 

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I don't agree with it all that much, a fifth of your team being average like they say happens in basketball happens in football too. We won the treble with Chivu and Pandev who were absolutely garbage. Croatia reached the WC final with like half the team being average or even mediocre and only one or two superstars.

And you absolutely need superstar players to win championships, when was the last time a team without 2 or 3 top players won anything important in football.

The difference is that in football there's more moving parts 11 vs 5, and there's less margin for error lower scores. However in football is much more difficult to break opposing teams and most times the only way to do that is with cracks.

And Messi isn't comparable to Jordan, the only one that could be compared with Jordan was Ronaldo, but he was plagued with injuries his whole career. Also Jordan's bulls were stacked: Pippen was no joke and Rodman was one of the best defensive players ever.

I mean, that's objectively wrong.
 

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I mean, that's objectively wrong.

Yes and no! I mean Especially pandev while he was not garbage he was nothing special and a very average player. Thing is that he was surrounded by champs and he had a very specific task to fullfill in Mou s system and he looked good in that very system with limited responsibilities.

But as soon as mou left he looked very average at inter and everywhere else he went. Imho this was a classical example of the players surrounding pandev and the system he was playing in making him look better than he actually was.
 

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Yes and no! I mean Especially pandev while he was not garbage he was nothing special and a very average player. Thing is that he was surrounded by champs and he had a very specific task to fullfill in Mou s system and he looked good in that very system with limited responsibilities.

But as soon as mou left he looked very average at inter and everywhere else he went. Imho this was a classical example of the players surrounding pandev and the system he was playing in making him look better than he actually was.

I was more talking about Chivu, who was a good CB and LB throughout most of his career though he did decline in the later years. Pandev was never more than a 6 or 7 out of 10 but I’d never call him absolute garbage, that’s reserved for actual trash like Dalbert.
 

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No Hazard, no Modric and no Messi. Poor job Aussilio :megusta:
 

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No Hazard, no Modric and no Messi. Poor job Aussilio :megusta:

The fact that he turned down Vidal on the cheap with our midfield with no guarantee from Modric, shows we'll never become a top team with him at the head. The moment where he should be level headed and decisive, he turns into a cocky mofo.

Unless Vidal's injury turns out to be some career ending shit, he should leave imo. If it does, he has an excuse.
 

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I was more talking about Chivu, who was a good CB and LB throughout most of his career though he did decline in the later years. Pandev was never more than a 6 or 7 out of 10 but I’d never call him absolute garbage, that’s reserved for actual trash like Dalbert.

Chivu was garbage after his head injury, he ruined our season after the treble all by himself, the Schalke trashing and the derby were all on him, it's was also why Zanetti played as LB in the biggest matches.
 
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