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10 years of FIFFrom what I saw in the replay it looked like CR was clear on side, please if you can find me a better replay in which his shoulder looks exposed?
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It's marginal, but it's there. And I'm not really sure that this is exactly the time where the ball was hit. The line is also slightly off but not enough to suggest a different story with the 100% accurate one. The correct one would have his entire arm exposed.
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10 years of FIFTerrible throw-in taken by Frosinone player which led to complication and lose the ball, and then even worse attempt to clear the ball by Frosinone defender. Well, at least they fought like a proper team though.
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It's marginal, but it's there. And I'm not really sure that this is exactly the time where the ball was hit. The line is also slightly off but not enough to suggest a different story with the 100% accurate one. The correct one would have his entire arm exposed.
The line isnt parallel with the white line, if it does, he is offside.
If Icardi’s arm was offiside, ronaldo’s should count the same.
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10 years of FIFNostradamusMost Passionate MemberGeometry says that it should not look parallel.
You need to take the two lines of the area*, find a common point somewhere in the north and then make multiple parallel lines going downwards until you find the one that covers - to the right hand side - the area that the defender is exposing for offside. This line is slightly off as I said, but I don't have the time to show the real one. Someone with more time and decent skills can do it.
*please don't be surpised to see that those do not look parallel either. Maybe this is why people think Handanovic should be getting balls that are miles away
An arm cannot be a criterion for an offside call, as an arm cannot be used for scoring. A shoulder on the other hand can. Any part of it.
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It's marginal, but it's there. And I'm not really sure that this is exactly the time where the ball was hit. The line is also slightly off but not enough to suggest a different story with the 100% accurate one. The correct one would have his entire arm exposed.
Obviously its a millimetre situation but to me it looks like he's on side. I think camera's angle is fooling you because its a little bit diagonal from offside's line which makes it look like CR's shoulder is a little bit exposed which I don't think it is. Meanwhile we know that hand doesn't count in offside rule, that makes it easier to make a conclusion in this situation IMO.
However I would like to see a 3D replay there.
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10 years of FIFThe blue line isn't correct I think. You can see it clearly by the border between the light grass and dark grass. It diverges way too much towards the bottom of the figure.
Even if it's millimeter onside, we clearly see how the VAR usage bias directed towards. If it was Juv goal, "fuck VAR, let's move on". If we score that goal is put under the microscope.
Even if it's millimeter onside, we clearly see how the VAR usage bias directed towards. If it was Juv goal, "fuck VAR, let's move on". If we score that goal is put under the microscope.
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10 years of FIFNostradamusMost Passionate MemberI wouldn't call this offside, but as I said, it doesn't matter. It'd be ruled out if it was an Inter goal, it'd be allowed if he was one meter further if it was Cristiano. His first Serie A goal was offside anyway, no one blinked an eye. They'll be parading all kinds of lines in the morning in their trash papers to show what a great poacher he is.
But I'm still not convinced that this is the real time the ball was played by the Rube player.
But I'm still not convinced that this is the real time the ball was played by the Rube player.
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10 years of FIFThe line is exactly where it has to be. I mean, I checked it, the OCD fucker I am.
But yeah, it looks fishy at first glance.
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10 years of FIFNostradamusMost Passionate Member[youtube]-bRuCqmJKt8[/youtube]
If it were an Inter player, they'd disallow it for the first attempt where Cristiano was exposed and sitting comfortably in offside position for several seconds in this situation.
And it'd be correct, as the rule states:
Commiting an Offside Offence
A player in an offside position is only penalised if, at the moment the ball touches or is played by one of his team, he is, in the opinion of the referee, involved in active play by:
- interfering with play
- interfering with an opponent
- gaining an advantage by being in that position
Ref has a right by the rulebook to call Cristiano (and Mandzukic) offside, through VAR of course, when Alex Sandro lays the ball to Pjanic. Of course they wouldn't do this to Juventus and Cristiano.
Mandzukic forces #6 to be concerned about him, who is offside, rather than Pjanic, who has the ball, because he was exposed. Additionally, the defence doesn't bother about Cristiano until Mandzukic is offside for another touch and the guy who barely covers Cristiano, for the first time in this situation, is concerned about Mandzukic and backtracks a bit to cover him.
Now please, someone tell me that this is overreacting and that if it were Nainggolan, Asamoah, D'Ambrosio and Icardi involved, this goal would have stood...
If it were an Inter player, they'd disallow it for the first attempt where Cristiano was exposed and sitting comfortably in offside position for several seconds in this situation.
And it'd be correct, as the rule states:
Commiting an Offside Offence
A player in an offside position is only penalised if, at the moment the ball touches or is played by one of his team, he is, in the opinion of the referee, involved in active play by:
- interfering with play
- interfering with an opponent
- gaining an advantage by being in that position
Ref has a right by the rulebook to call Cristiano (and Mandzukic) offside, through VAR of course, when Alex Sandro lays the ball to Pjanic. Of course they wouldn't do this to Juventus and Cristiano.
Mandzukic forces #6 to be concerned about him, who is offside, rather than Pjanic, who has the ball, because he was exposed. Additionally, the defence doesn't bother about Cristiano until Mandzukic is offside for another touch and the guy who barely covers Cristiano, for the first time in this situation, is concerned about Mandzukic and backtracks a bit to cover him.
Now please, someone tell me that this is overreacting and that if it were Nainggolan, Asamoah, D'Ambrosio and Icardi involved, this goal would have stood...
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Most Diverse PosterI never imagined it'll be that bad. The season is being ruined before it even begins.
Now jube can not win one game without controversial calls in their favor. Inter can not play one game without having controversial calls against them.
I've lived through the late 90s and I dont recall it being that much consistently scandalous. This is worse than I've ever seen.
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And what do we get from the FIGC? Oh sorry bout that, the referee wasnt really good in this game. Ops! Oh really sorry bout that Inter, we admit the referee didnt handle that situation quite well. Oh no we sincerely apologize there the VAR officials were having an anal orgy and totally missed that on the line goal saved handball, next time no anal sex in the VAR room just blowjobs.
Now jube can not win one game without controversial calls in their favor. Inter can not play one game without having controversial calls against them.
I've lived through the late 90s and I dont recall it being that much consistently scandalous. This is worse than I've ever seen.
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And what do we get from the FIGC? Oh sorry bout that, the referee wasnt really good in this game. Ops! Oh really sorry bout that Inter, we admit the referee didnt handle that situation quite well. Oh no we sincerely apologize there the VAR officials were having an anal orgy and totally missed that on the line goal saved handball, next time no anal sex in the VAR room just blowjobs.
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That's not what "gaining an advantage" means.
https://www.fifa.com/mm/document/afdeveloping/refereeing/law_11_offside_en_47383.pdf
Page 22:
“gaining an advantage by being in that position” means:
- playing a ball that rebounds to him off a post or crossbar, having previously been in an offside position.
- playing a ball that rebounds that rebounds to him off an opponent having previously been in an offside position.
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10 years of FIFNostradamusMost Passionate MemberEven if that's true, Mandzukic was interfering with an opponent anyway, which was mostly what I was trying to show here and Cristiano was only covered because of this during the situation.
Either way, what I said above stands. If it were an Inter goal, everyone would be finding excuses as to why it was correctly disallowed and since it is Juve, everyone will be making excuses as to why the goal should stand.
Either way, what I said above stands. If it were an Inter goal, everyone would be finding excuses as to why it was correctly disallowed and since it is Juve, everyone will be making excuses as to why the goal should stand.
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