Inter - Milan (5 Feb 22) [1-2]

nadzington said:

Inzaghi only lives on what conte did with the team. The longer the team plays the worse it looks. We are getting worse and worse, and its only inzaghis fault.

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If he lives only on what Conte did how the fuck he managed to bring Inter in last 16 in CL? No,the team doesnt look worse,this team is weakend and lost Lukaku,Hakimi and Eriksen,brought Dzeko,Hakan and Dumfries. Before season everyone agreed that top 4 would be our goal.And dont start now with that other teams are more shit this season. That is not truth. Bbilan is better than last season,Napoli also,Atalanta is so so,and this Rube is so far like Pirlos,but they can be better,we'll see what will happen about that. So you are wrong my pal. Stop with fkn Conte. Chicken shit mercenary rubentino.Fuck him,and his money..... I agree that Inzaghi does some shitty decisions in matches,but it was same with Conte. We will never know how would Conte manage this team and how would Inzaghi manage scudetto team from last season. But we had stronger roster last season. We had Lukaku who was absolute force in Seria A and now we have Dzeko who is not even close to that. We had fkn Hakimi. I like Dumfries but cmon,he is nowhere near Hakimi's class. Only Hakan proved so far and thrived much more than Eriksen,but do you think that Hakan would be good like that in Cunteball?I dont think so... I wont blame Inzaghi till we are on this course. If we start choking badly like in his prime Lazio days and jeopardise top 4 than I will first say that Inzaghi is not good enough and should leave.

Honestly, everyone's so black and white

Inzaghi, in general, has improved this team, but we've also made some questionable choices. Yes, we and sit here and blame Suning for not replacing Lukaku better (BuT wE fReEd Up ThE aTtAcK doesnt hold much weight anymore), but at the same time, we could definitely have spent the 30m on Correa better. Dzeko looks like a worse signing by the week. Lautaro is ass and his shortcomings are very visible when there isnt a good goalscorer next to him.

I like Inzaghi, I want him to stay here for a while, but we need to make better tranasfer signings, and that is potentially also a reflection on who he asks for. I'm not gonna sit here and claim InSiDeR knowledge like som other posters on here do, but Caicedo and Correa I cant imagine were on the top of Conte's list - Dzeko is clearly someone we've been chasing for years.

It's our 2nd defeat of the league season, we'll be fine if we recover.

Suning bitch plays a big part in this loss. This team to be clear needs quality depth. Lukaku and Hakimi sale gave us €190M, however we invested from those money max €30M totally criminal.

So the problem isnt that TWO strikers they signed to replace Lukaku, at a cost of approx 25m per season, arent good enough?

One, a 30m striker who is never fit, and the other, a career goal scorer who is over the hill but costs us _14m_ a season in salary?


You think it's Suning thats the problem, or our choice of players?

For the money we spend every season on Correa + Dzeko we could have had both Scamacca and Raspadori and then some..

.h. said:

I like Inzaghi, I want him to stay here for a while, but we need to make better tranasfer signings, and that is potentially also a reflection on who he asks for. I'm not gonna sit here and claim InSiDeR knowledge like som other posters on here do, but Caicedo and Correa I cant imagine were on the top of Conte's list - Dzeko is clearly someone we've been chasing for years.

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Appreciate the personal attack. Anything else to gain attention?

It's also obvious that you're not reading much since it's been established that Correa was like the 6th option we had.
And Caicedo is only here as 5th forward because Satriano is not considered serviceable and Correa is injured.


You're pretending to care so much about the finances and now you claim that we should make better signings? With what money?

We sold players for over 200m and spent a tiny portion of that. You believe that the coach was like "fuck spending, I'll do it my way"?

.h. said:

Honestly, everyone's so black and white

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Interesting initiation of a post. Stick to your own advice.

As I said, Dzeko + Correa + Caicedo cost us 25m euros a year already.

Raspadori + Scamacca on 40m each over a 5 year contract is 16m a year cost, that means we can afford to pay them both 2.5m a season and it comes out to about the same figures.

I also have no doubt, personally, than both of them combined will score more goals than the 3 players we signed there combined.


We can sit here and blame Suning, but the annual cost of Correa + Dzeko + Caicedo gives us a decent amount of headroom. I dont know who drove the decision to sign those 3 players, but there was money there to be spent if we wanted. Unfortunately a decision was taken to sign:

* A 35/36 year old on almost 10m a season gross who hasnt been anywhere near as prolific as historically for a few seasons
* Some ex-Lazio boy who has never hit double figures in a league season and is a picture of a mediocre banter era striker in my mind
* Another ex-Lazio boy who has hit double figures in a league season precisely once.

I'd rather we spent the cash on Scamacca + Raspadori. And that's ignoring the (obvious) inclusion of youth swaps we could have done to help that cost come down a bit.



RE Black and white - I think my post is fairly in the middle as it has been most of the season. I dont think Inzaghi is a newly uncovered prime Mourinho, and I dont think this is a disaster either. I've said ALL SEASON that Feb/early March is what will decide it for us, we're in our hardest spell of the seaosn, if we get to the end of Feb capable of leading the table (e.g. considering game in hand), I'd be really happy. It's a shame to have not at least drawn the Milan game and I agree with you that its all about how we bounce back from this now

Suning is absent.

You're blaming the coach when he's not in charge of the finances and has not even made any demands because he knows where he came. He even saw the team's top scorer leave against what he was promised, as pointed out by himself and all relevant directors.

Why are you absolving the management of any blame here?

We had a bid for Scamacca that was rejected in the summer. Also had one in the winter. In the summer we also had a bid for Vlahovic that was rejected.


And you're now lumping Caicedo into this picture? The guy will cost 800k for 5 months and then he'll go back home. He's here as an emergency transfer, nothing more.



Why do you think that what we're seeing here is part of Plan A?

Jnr said:

1-2 months?? It could be -5 next weekend. -8 today if they win( most probably) . Then we lose to Napoli, lose first spot to Milan and Juve wins we are -5.

Doesn't matter we have one postponed game. The fear will creep in and we might bottle the whole season .

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it's true, what i want to say is that it does make no sense to think about a team that is currently fighting for the fourth position. Inter needs to win their games. Loosing points is ok but not so many. Because at that point everyone will get a problem behind us.

So I dont think at any point I said 'I blame Inzaghi for these transfers'. That being said, I dont personally believe for a second that we'd have chased those two players if it wasnt for Inzaghi. Or do you think that Correa and Caicedo were mastermind Marotta?


I dont absolve management of any blame here, its a combination of it. My point is that with some other decisions, we could have done really well - but I dont think its just so simple as saying SUNING DIDNT SPEND ANY MONEY. We spent money badly.

The problem is Inzaghi does not attract big players. Nobody knows who he is outside Italy. Nobody wants to come to play under this shit coach. With Conte it was different, everybody wanted to play under him. Lukaku would never left if Conte stayed. But he saw a sinking ship with a loser coach and loser ownership.

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So I dont think at any point I said 'I blame Inzaghi for these transfers'. That being said, I dont personally believe for a second that we'd have chased those two players if it wasnt for Inzaghi. Or do you think that Correa and Caicedo were mastermind Marotta?

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We went after 5 or 6 other players before considering Correa... You wanted us to consider and get rejected for 5-10 more?

Again with the Caicedo stuff... Dude, do you not understand this transfer? He's not here to cement himself as a top player, he's here to play in meaningless games and rest Dzeko or thrown in hail Mary attempts instead of throwing Ranocchia up front!

There's no cost.
The alternative was Destro who has a starting role and would have stuck around more to occupy Club Trained spots. Or get Salcedo back.

Sure, it's Inzaghi's request but the budget was less than 1m and the job opening is the backup of a backup! He trusts this guy who bailed him out many times so why not? It's not as if he deprived us from getting in on the Vlahovic action!


The only real alternative we had was to go for Coutinho back when Sanchez expressed a desire to leave and Xavi wanted him back there, but both Sanchez and Barcelona changed their minds and our offer was complete Modric style low ball.

.h. said:

I dont absolve management of any blame here, its a combination of it. My point is that with some other decisions, we could have done really well - but I dont think its just so simple as saying SUNING DIDNT SPEND ANY MONEY. We spent money badly.

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We did not spend money.

We paid 1.5m for Dzeko's total transfer cost.
We paid 5m for Correa (plus 5 last month)
We paid nothing for Caicedo.

So that's 11.5m leaving our accounts for Dzeko's agents and whatever Roma wanted from that and Lazio. Genoa gets nothing, but they stop paying Caicedo.

9-9.5m gross for Dzeko.
6.5m gross for Correa.
1m gross for Caicedo rounded up.

That's 17m on salaries (roughly 11% of our total which feels high enough)
And less than 30m total cost.
Leaving Caicedo out because he came in winter to cover for Correa, this is a cost of around 28m for two important players going into the season. Main striker and his main backup.
Maybe we could have ended up with Caicedo and his 4m total cost instead of Correa and use 25m for both transfer and salary to get a better striker than Dzeko when free transfers were out of the question as this all happened 2 weeks before the season started...

Maybe we could have... but who? Care to name anyone?

We have 200m incoming, saved over 100m from future costs on Lukaku, Eriksen and Hakimi salaries and yet all we could spend was less than 8m on transfers and couldn't commit to more than 25m for the season.
And you think Suning isn't an issue?

Right, so you've exactly balanced the point I made - the cost of ownership for Scamacca + Raspadori,f or this season, at 40m each, would have ben comparable to Dzeko + Correa

The cost differential comes into subsequent seasons, of course, but if Scamacca comes with a bunch of plusvalenza associated (e.g. Pirola + Pinamonti, for arguments sake) then it only further swings the dial in our direction

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Right, so you've exactly balanced the point I made - the cost of ownership for Scamacca + Raspadori,f or this season, at 40m each, would have ben comparable to Dzeko + Correa

The cost differential comes into subsequent seasons, of course, but if Scamacca comes with a bunch of plusvalenza associated (e.g. Pirola + Pinamonti, for arguments sake) then it only further swings the dial in our direction

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Sassuolo rejected a 30m bid for Scamacca in the summer, now they want 40m.
They wanted 35-40 for Raspadori as well.

It wasn't feasible. Clearly if we could reach those agreements we would have.

Our only target that could have cost less than 25m in total was this kid from Uruguay that we're keeping tabs on:

No clue where he ends up, if you search on youtube every team you can think of has a "welcome to" video

And that'd be a huge gamble to take. Kid's barely 20 and he'd only be available in January. And he's nowhere near the target man we were chasing.

Now with Fiorentina having money I see them being an option for Raspadori if he wants another stepping stone before a bigger move.

The team chose the worst fixture to lose. I expected way more concentration and professionalism from them. This is not an accepted way to lose to your closest rival.

I really hope they put themselves together quick, cause with tough schedule ahead we can't slip like this anymore.

I woke up and remembered we are still top with a game in hand of Milan.

It's a good day

Every negative yields a positive.

To me the saddest thing about all of this is knowing that all of this is coming to an end. Inzaghi has overachieved massively this season with the help of Marotta.

Sure we may well end up winning the league again this season but future is looking grim. You can’t sell your best players and pretend like everything is going to be fine.

We had a team that could have won the league for the next 5 years in a row easy and even challenged for the CL but Suning dismantled all off that. Juve have Vlahovic, Napoli have Osimhen and we have Dzeko. The writing’s on the wall I’m afraid

theres no need dto be quite so dramatic about it. We're one good susmmer (e.g. Frattesi, Scamacca) away from being in a ddecent position. Juve need to overhaul their ENTIRE midfield and defense in the next few years basically.

Scamacca is not a solution. We need to improve our team, not continue getting half solutions like Correa or Dzeko.

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theres no need dto be quite so dramatic about it. We're one good susmmer (e.g. Frattesi, Scamacca) away from being in a ddecent position. Juve need to overhaul their ENTIRE midfield and defense in the next few years basically.

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Dont agree Juve have money while we need to beg for coins from zhang.

This "the sky is falling" from Interisti is just pathetic.
We lost a derby, shit happens.
We are still in a decent position.