Mercato Team (Ausilio, Marotta, & Co.) and Strategies

Sevag said:

What I don't get is, we were told one big sell would be enough last summer, but we lost Hakimi AND Lukaku. Now I understand Lukaku wanted to leave but why isn't the +180 million enough to cover both summers?

Anyway, if the rumors are true and we do lose any of our core players (Bastoni/Skriniar/Barella/Lautaro/Brozovic), then I'm taking a break from football until Suning sell. Not gonna watch the love of my life get dismantled like this and go through another banter era

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As it was mentioned before I think in the loan contract there might be financial goal we have to meet each year before we can spend any money

Gosens for 23-25 M Euros is cheap relatively.

Yea we are all saying that now but we will watch it and support anyway.

Sevag said:

What I don't get is, we were told one big sell would be enough last summer, but we lost Hakimi AND Lukaku. Now I understand Lukaku wanted to leave but why isn't the +180 million enough to cover both summers?

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yep, I have similar thoughts. We've sold two big players last year. But on top of that we've qualified to knockout stage of Champions League and we have qualified to the next Champions League edition. Stadiums were not fully open for whole season, but we definitely earned a lot of money from tickets, because we had highest attendance from all Italian clubs.

It should nicely secure our financial situation, but still we need to earn 60 mln and besides that we are chasing Dybala or Bremer who aren't cheap.

We sold Hakimi, but then Lukaku fucked us over by wanting to leave at the end of July.

There is simply no optimism to be had with the mercato till sunning goes.
Let's see if moratta, ausilio and baccin can do another miracle job.

Stefan said:

There is simply no optimism to be had with the mercato till sunning goes.
Let's see if moratta, ausilio and baccin can do another miracle job.

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Yeah we need to hope they can scramble another summer like last summer. After last summer in my books we were just targeting top4. But we fight for the title till the last 45mins. If we can replicate that, that would be great. If they can scramble well, we might even win the title.

When is the meeting between Marotta and the fans?

That's more important than the management meetings.

bubba zanetti said:

Yea we are all saying that now but we will watch it and support anyway.

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Honestly, I didn't. Got busy in September, fell behind, and never really had the desire to catch back up. Much of that is my own failing but the negative Suning energy didn't help at all. It took years to build this team back to Scudetto level. It took one summer to begin destroying it. And that's so fucking painful to see happen to something you love. It did my blood pressure so much good not thinking about this stuff for so many months, even if it meant not visiting forums like this where I enjoy the community so much and get a lot out of going to.

Sevag said:

What I don't get is, we were told one big sell would be enough last summer, but we lost Hakimi AND Lukaku. Now I understand Lukaku wanted to leave but why isn't the +180 million enough to cover both summers?

Anyway, if the rumors are true and we do lose any of our core players (Bastoni/Skriniar/Barella/Lautaro/Brozovic), then I'm taking a break from football until Suning sell. Not gonna watch the love of my life get dismantled like this and go through another banter era

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I mentioned this in another thread but what the Lukaku money did was lower the amount of plusvalenza we need this summer or remove the possibility of needing to make a big sale in 2025.

They need to keep paying that loan. This selling strategy is a long haul for Suning, and who knows what will even happen when that loan is paid off.

Sell Calhanoglu for 20M. He has two years left on his contract, is 28, and on elevated wages. Transfermarkt has his value listed as 40M, as a proxy.

Sell de Vrij for 15M.

Sign Bremer from Torino for 25M plus Pinamonti. Value Bremer, the current Serie A defender of the year, at 50M in the transaction.

Congratulations, you just generated 50M of plusvalenza while still meeting the majority of your summer goals. If Marotta isn't capable of executing something like this by June, he shouldn't be running a top football club.

ADRossi said:

Sell Calhanoglu for 20M. He has two years left on his contract, is 28, and on elevated wages. Transfermarkt has his value listed as 40M, as a proxy.

Sell de Vrij for 15M.

Sign Bremer from Torino for 25M plus Pinamonti. Value Bremer, the current Serie A defender of the year, at 50M in the transaction.

Congratulations, you just generated 50M of plusvalenza while still meeting the majority of your summer goals. If Marotta isn't capable of executing something like this by June, he shouldn't be running a top football club.

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I think there will be a lot of interest for De Vrij so we should aim for 20m. Pina is also someone who could be sold for around 20m. Then we have Dumfries and Hakan who are both replaceable. Dumfries for 30-35m and Hakan for 20-25m doesn't sound that bad. Get Dybala, Bremer, Molina/Singo and someone like De Paul and i think we are have a better squad than past year, plus we generate that money Suning asks us. Just give Agoumé, Esposito and Satriano a place in our squad. We know they are talented and it's the right time to give our youth a change now.

RotterdamNerazzurri said:

I think there will be a lot of interest for De Vrij so we should aim for 20m. Pina is also someone who could be sold for around 20m. Then we have Dumfries and Hakan who are both replaceable. Dumfries for 30-35m and Hakan for 20-25m doesn't sound that bad. Get Dybala, Bremer, Molina/Singo and someone like De Paul and i think we are have a better squad than past year, plus we generate that money Suning asks us. Just give Agoumé, Esposito and Satriano a place in our squad. We know they are talented and it's the right time to give our youth a change now.

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The real point I was trying to make is, there are ways to meet this ridiculous goal without sacrificing Barella, Bastoni, or Skriniar.

Il Drago said:

It's very convenient to blame everything on Marotta but the real problem is the ownership.

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Ha dude you make it sound like most blame Marotta instead of the ownership!

Everyone blames ownership, but if anything, Marotta deserves a lot more criticism too. Namely, for the way he has handled contract renewals and his poor record with sales (who weren't already ultra-high demand players).

Unfortunately for Marotta, he's in a difficult situation where every move has to be perfect. We quite literally can not afford any room for error. Buying Bremer for example is a no-brainer, but I applaud him for it nonetheless. However, if you turn around and give Mkhitaryan a contract on 4m wages he's just undoing his good work. I think Marotta has to be criticised at times for his lack of imagination and some of trash he seems intent on wasting our money on.

Bastoni being sold is one thing, nigh on unforgivable. But if we take a significant chunk of the money made from Bastoni's sacrifice, and waste it on a big contract for some garbage can free agent like Bernardeschi or Romagnoli, I will fucking lose it.

Milan just won the league with a bunch of nobodies bought for peanuts from France. There's talent out there if you look hard enough and give it time to develop. Enough of these fucking washed up, former big-names like Vidal and Dzeko. And I don't want to hear a thing about any of these "reliable", "Serie A-experienced" mediocre shitters like Romagnoli or Acerbi either. We wouldn't be selling one of our future legends if we hadn't pissed fucking 50m on Gosens and Correa, not to mention the countless millions spent on the likes of Sensi, Lazaro, Dalbert, Vidal, Kolarov, Dzeko, Caicedo etc.

ADRossi said:

The real point I was trying to make is, there are ways to meet this ridiculous goal without sacrificing Barella, Bastoni, or Skriniar.

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Couldn't agree more and there is nothing on the planet that can make me change my mind.

The idea that we "have to" sell one of our core players is a fucking lie. These stupid cunts are simply too incompetent or lazy to take on the challenge of selling and replacing lots of lower value assets in order to save one big asset.

There's a couple of groups which we can categorize our saleable players into:

1. Skriniar, Bastoni, Barella, Latauro Brozovic - those are your untouchables
   
   
2. Then you have players who you don't want to have to sell but you would sell at the right price - Dumfries, Calhanoglu, Dimarco
   
   
3. Then you have your promising youth - again, you don't want to sell these guys but if it helps you keep the players in groups 1 and 2, so be it. Agoume, Esposito, Satriano, Vanheusden, Pirola, Casadei
   
   
4. Then you have players who MUST be sold like de Vrij, Pinamonti, Radu, Correa
   
   
5. Finally you have your fucking trash who you sell for as cheap as possible, as long as you avoid a capital loss: Dalbert, Lazaro, Gagliardini, Sensi

Start from the bottom of the list and work your way up. You sell every single cunt in group 5, 4, 3 and 2 before you even THINK about touching a player from group 1.

No one said it's easy but that's why you're considered an "elite" executive and you're paid an elite salary. Do your fucking job.

Universe said:

No one said it's easy but that's why you're considered an "elite" executive and you're paid an elite salary. Do your fucking job.

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My post was referring to these posts of Brehme and Cafe which clearly focus on Marotta's modus operandi.

brehme1989 said:

I thought some of you were asking for this kind of management. Selling high, buying low, rinse, repeat...

Or are you know understanding what it meant when some of us said that Inter does not lose players it wants to keep.
This only applies to Hakimi from last season, and to a smaller extent Lukaku. Marotta is the type of manager all the people who wanted this is, it's one of the main reasons I objected to his appointment. Skriniar being whored out three summers in a row is pathetic enough. Barella and Bastoni having price tags. Almost losing Brozovic on a free...

Well, unless some things change, this is the new Inter.

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CafeCordoba said:

Unfortunately this seems to be the case. Marotta's modus operandi at Juve was to sell high and buy lower, that was important part of Juve being financially (somewhat) healthy. This was before Ronaldo, Marotta left after they did that deal.

Players are just assets, commodity to the management (Marotta).

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ADRossi said:

Sell Calhanoglu for 20M. He has two years left on his contract, is 28, and on elevated wages. Transfermarkt has his value listed as 40M, as a proxy.

Sell de Vrij for 15M.

Sign Bremer from Torino for 25M plus Pinamonti. Value Bremer, the current Serie A defender of the year, at 50M in the transaction.

Congratulations, you just generated 50M of plusvalenza while still meeting the majority of your summer goals. If Marotta isn't capable of executing something like this by June, he shouldn't be running a top football club.

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Couldn't agree more. Those are not even unrealistic FIFA career mode moves. Calhanoglu is coming of a very solid season and would be a certain starter at any PL mid table club which could also afford to pay his wages. SDV had a stinker of a season, but is still a proven player, there's simply no way there are no clubs willing to take him. Both transfer fees would be more than reasonable in this day and age of football.

Simply mindboggling stuff from Marotta.

Just for the record, i don't disagree with you guys. Marotta has made mistakes and i have already said he needs to earn his salary this summer. Raising 60m from selling Bastoni is easy. Anyone can do it. We don't need Marotta for that. If he wants to be considered one of the best, he needs to look for alternatives before going straight for the nuclear option.

We can just spin that around and say Suning should have found another option instead of taking that loan agreement. Everything circles back to them.