Simone Inzaghi

wera said:

You said that like Brozović wasn't present for our bad start from last season.

In CL - Brozo played against Bayern when we lost and against Viktoria Plzen that we won and then didn't feature until last 16, where he barely played against Porto, played fully against Benfica, one Milan game 27 minutes, the other Milan game for 46 minutes and the final against City for the full 90.

The most important thing to really take from this is our two amazing results against Barcelona without him.

In Serie A - Brozo first played 7 matches, won 4, lost 3. He didn't play the next 5 - we won 4 and lost 1. Played a little bit in the Juve loss, and the two wins against Bologna and Atalanta.

Then he didn't feature for the next 5 games, which were a win against Napoli, a draw against Monza, a win against Verona, a loss to Empoli and a win against Cremonese.

After that he was back for good at the start of February, with 10 wins, 2 draws and 6 losses.

So in Serie A it was 16 wins with him, 7 wins without him, 2 draws with him, 1 draw without him, 11 losses with him, but only 2 losses without him.

Procentually, we were actually better without Brozović, if you don't think about how we started the season with Handanović in goal and that Brozović was probably a bit injured when he played in some games.
But overall, Brozović last season wasn't really the glue that we knew him for. Thank the big man in the sky that we had Hakan to step in.

Also he didn't feature in the Supercoppa and didn't feature in the first two Coppa games against Parma and Atalanta, but he was there a bit against Juve and played the full game in Fiorentina

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We were better with Brozo, and when I say with Brozo I say with Brozo when is fit and in form. And that was the case in the finish of last season, what you are purposely omitting in your post. And with healthy Brozo Hakan can finally rest. Yea we beat Barca without him, just like we beat Benfica few days ago. But we were crap in the league,cause you cant play Hakan every fucking game. When Brozo returned(also Lukaku) Limone could rotate Hakan and Dzeko and we had great last few weeks of the season. Stop with a revisionism here. We have a situation now like last season without Brozo. Hakan will be great like against Barca but then he is dead tired and not so good in Seria A game three days after that. Limone doesnt trust Asllani cause he didnt start him after that fiasco against Sociedad. If Hakan gets long term injury this season is over.

Adriano@10 said:

If we clearly miss out on the scudetto and we dont have another great CL campaign by all means start questioning the coach but right now?
Way to early imho

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Totally get this, but I just don't have patience for it, to be brutally honest. In a third year I expect different things and not to talk about the same faults I talked in his first year here. If I don't look this season as a continuation of the previous two seasons, then I feel like the dude in that clown meme where he gradually puts clown makeup on and at the end becomes a complete clown.

I don't want to start putting quotes here, but the full "fool me once" quote describes quite well how I feel right now.

vex said:

Totally get this, but I just don't have patience for it, to be brutally honest. In a third year I expect different things and not to talk about the same faults I talked in his first year here. If I don't look this season as a continuation of the previous two seasons, then I feel like the dude in that clown meme where he gradually puts clown makeup on and at the end becomes a complete clown.

I don't want to start putting quotes here, but the full "fool me once" quote describes quite well how I feel right now.

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I get that but theres a 50/50 chance you look like that clown at the end of the season either way.......

Again i think we ve seen progress.... In how we play since inzaghi arrived, I also dont think we have a squad at hand where winning the scudetto is an absolute must....
On top of that people keep on saying we have more depth now yeah that might be but most of these players are only here for a very short period, and it takes time ti gel with the team, even more so if most of your apperances are as a sub when we re trailing the game. Not easy to change a game when you baerly know the squad....

All i m saying is right now we are firmly on course to challenge for the scudetto and we had games like against bologna or sassuolo under all our managers even mou and conte. If in Dez we re firmly off of first place by all means start bashing the dude....

Imho only game he really got wrong this season was sociedad...

bubba zanetti said:

We were better with Brozo, and when I say with Brozo I say with Brozo when is fit and in form. And that was the case in the finish of last season, what you are purposely omitting in your post. And with healthy Brozo Hakan can finally rest. Yea we beat Barca without him, just like we beat Benfica few days ago. But we were crap in the league,cause you cant play Hakan every fucking game. When Brozo returned(also Lukaku) Limone could rotate Hakan and Dzeko and we had great last few weeks of the season. Stop with a revisionism here. We have a situation now like last season without Brozo. Hakan will be great like against Barca but then he is dead tired and not so good in Seria A game three days after that. Limone doesnt trust Asllani cause he didnt start him after that fiasco against Sociedad. If Hakan gets long term injury this season is over.

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I didn't omit anything.


I'm not disagreeing with the fact that we don't have proper replacements for Sommer, Hakan and Lautaro. But Brozović was there when we had a very weird start of the season and we actually had a really good record without him, seeing how important he was for us - 7 wins, 1 draw, 2 losses.

The end of the season was our best time, when we actually believed we could beat anybody and also most of our players (bar Skriniar) were ready to play. But I'm not going to just cherry pick that our last 8 games run of 7 wins and 1 loss shows that we are absolutely better with Brozović. The bad run of 7 games before that he was already mostly starting games for us and playing a lot of minutes.

Brozović isn't the all-powerful, unbeatable player for us. When he came back we didn't just magically started winning games, we actually fell into a baaaad slump. I would love to keep him here, but sooner or later we need to let go of players and this summer it was his time - especially with the wage bill problems. It's okay. We'll find other players to replace him. I'm okay with giving Asllani a chance.

wera said:

I didn't omit anything.

Marcelo Brozovic - Stats 22/23

Player stats of Marcelo Brozovic (Al-Nasr Riad) ➤ Goals ➤ Assists ➤ Matches played ➤ All performance data

www.transfermarkt.com

I'm not disagreeing with the fact that we don't have proper replacements for Sommer, Hakan and Lautaro. But Brozović was there when we had a very weird start of the season and we actually had a really good record without him, seeing how important he was for us - 7 wins, 1 draw, 2 losses.

The end of the season was our best time, when we actually believed we could beat anybody and also most of our players (bar Skriniar) were ready to play. But I'm not going to just cherry pick that our last 8 games run of 7 wins and 1 loss shows that we are absolutely better with Brozović. The bad run of 7 games before that he was already mostly starting games for us and playing a lot of minutes.

Brozović isn't the all-powerful, unbeatable player for us. When he came back we didn't just magically started winning games, we actually fell into a baaaad slump. I would love to keep him here, but sooner or later we need to let go of players and this summer it was his time - especially with the wage bill problems. It's okay. We'll find other players to replace him. I'm okay with giving Asllani a chance.

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That 7 games he was coming from injury and was not in form, when he started performing Inter started to fly. Did you watch how he played that 15 games?

Pretty much watched most of the last season. Answer me, was he already injured at the start of the season? I don't think it was and that was a worse start than how we started this season without him. It's not like Brozo didn't also have his problems with focus at times.

So again, last season, the Serie A numbers are like this.
10 losses WITH HIM, 2 losses WITHOUT HIM. Even if he was recovering from injury in most of those 10 losses he played, it's clear we weren't that bad without him. I think that's the point you are missing out on. We CAN bring good, consistent results without him.

What he would bring to this Inter side is better ball retention and a better way to recycle possession than what Hakan and Asllani are able to. I'm sure we'll find another player to give Hakan some breathing room or maybe Asllani will grow into it. In any case, we need to give it time (or, in the worst case, money) to find a solution... but we can't keep crying out for Brozović after every game. It's time to get over it.

bubba zanetti said:

Maybe getting rid of Brozo wasnt such a good idea. Remember that our great run from last season started with Brozo back from injury and in form. But no one here talk about that.

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Well it also coincided with Lukaku getting back in form. We had a true rotation because our back up team included Brozovic and Lukaku. The form of those two was helping carry us in the league while we were playing our preferred 11 in CL and Coppa Italia.

Our schedule is heavily packed until the end of the year. We are in the international break now and we will have another one after 12 November, but the term "break" means devastating, not a rest period. We do not really take a breather during this period for our players fly gruelling miles to play another competitive matches.

We will have 6 matches in 22 days and the points lossed against Sassuolo and Bologna oblige us to not concede more points. Rotation is mandatory and we should start it against Torino because we will have 4 tough matches in a row afterward.

Some players like Mkhitaryan and Cuntdrado will get a breath at least.

thatdude said:

Well it also coincided with Lukaku getting back in form. We had a true rotation because our back up team included Brozovic and Lukaku. The form of those two was helping carry us in the league while we were playing our preferred 11 in CL and Coppa Italia.

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Also, again, when Lukaku wasn't playing or when he was still getting in form, getting just 15 minutes here and there, Inter was actually mostly winning games.

So when he finally came back and played, it was 64 minutes in a win against Napoli, 35' in a draw against Monza, had knee infflammation in our win against Verona, came back to play in loss against Empoli (14'), win against Cremonese (14'), win against Milan (20'), draw against Sampdoria (66'), win against Udinese (66', also his first goal after a long time), Bologna loss (63'), Lecce win (19'), Spezia loss (90', a goal for him), Juventus loss (79'), Fiorentina loss (90'), Salernitana draw (85', 1 assist), Monza loss (90')

and then finally the last run of 8 games with 7 wins, 1 loss, played most minutes, didn't play against Verona (our 0:6 win) and in this run of 7 games he played his numbers are really good.

Also, Lukaku played a lot of minutes in our Bologna loss, our Sampdoria draw, Spezia loss, Juventus loss, Fiorentina loss, Salernitana draw, Monza loss - where he contributed only 1 goal and 1 assist. This is why people were mad last season. (He also scored in win against Udinese)

He also barely played in our Cremonese win, in our Ac Milan win, in our Lecce win.

So now answer me this. If Lautaro gets injured, comes back to the fray and then takes 15 games to get back into competitive form, how many FIF members would lose their shit?

Nobody can take away from Lukaku that he was actually good in his last 7 Serie A games for us. But it's not like he came directly back from an injury and started bossing. It's too little, too late. Lukaku already started in the 4th of January game against Napoli and then he had to miss only 1 game because of injury. So from 4th of January to 23rd of April, when we played Empoli and Lukaku scored a brace, Lukaku played in 14 Serie A games!!!!!!

Also, Barcelona played 2-2 against Granada and Granada had the better chances. So let's stop with the drama. Bad games will come, but mostly I think we'll do better than last season, just hopefully our current 'Brozović' and 'Lukaku' don't get sidelined for half a season.

Adriano@10 said:

My beef with all this is that the most critique comes now after the bologna game for which we obviously were prepared well...
We drew this game cause of one individual fuck up by lautaro that pen was totally unnecessary, and for the second goal our whole defence line was caught sleeping...
This were not tactical mistakes or things the coach can really influence during a game....
Like from a coaching perspective we had worse games......

You eliminate one of those fuckups and we win this game and nobody is complaining about the coach....

If we clearly miss out on the scudetto and we dont have another great CL campaign by all means start questioning the coach but right now?
Way to early imho

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This is the key when criticizing the coach. We need to recognize when it's the coach's failure and when it's just single episodes. Inzaghi has done tremendous job with this team and build a fantastic way of playing. The fact we've lost some points because of single episodes do not take away the work he has done.

Lapses of concentration can be attributed to be coach's failure as well, yes, but I'd share blame also to individual players.

There's no crisis at Inter result-wise so let's not try to generate one just because someone is upset we don't have perfect record in the league. Half championship played is a good point to do some analysis how we are looking, not now because it's way too early.

As I said we have to lower our expectations. We are doing well so far considering that we are sacrificing important players every summer.

varmin said:

As I said we have to lower our expectations. We are doing well so far considering that we are sacrificing important players every summer.

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Can't be lower than fucking Bbilan though. Not a single player of them, maybe except Leao, would start for us. Squad quality should not be an excuse here.

Two years behind over three years will be devastating. No matter how many times we raped them, Scudettos are Scudettos, still big titles. CL final is not a title.

PS: I know it is still season early, but just comment on such case.

PHM1605 said:

Can't be lower than fucking Bbilan though. Not a single player of them, maybe except Leao, would start for us. Squad quality should not be an excuse here.

Two years behind over three years will be devastating. No matter how many times we raped them, Scudettos are Scudettos, still big titles. CL final is not a title.

PS: I know it is still season early, but just comment on such case.

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Milan are investigating more than us last seasons. They look weaker, but have better mentality when is needed. At least in their champion season.
CL final gave us a lot more money than a scudetto. Unfortunately this is more important at the moment.

Milan has a lot more firepower up front, which will help them beat minnows and midtable clubs.

We've played 10 games which is around 1/5 of the total games we'll play this season. So while it's early the sample is not negligible.

And so far it's been pretty good. Not perfect, but with this squad, I did not expect perfect.

Just the fact that we didn't crumble to Fiorentina and Milan, but we actually demolished them, is a good sign of things to come. Especially since Fiorentina and Milan found their footing now. Not winning Bologna stings more than losing to Sassuolo, because we actually managed to score two but then we fucked up and just couldn't get back into the game.

The loss to Sassuolo was expected

Adriano@10 said:

Do people know we re second? only 2 points off of 1st?
WTF are you guys talking about?
It s almost as if you guys were working for one of em news chanel every win we re fucken amazing every hickup we re trash...

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We should have won all 9 games

The rotations In the 1st lost was bad.

Being 2-0 up at home and dominating we shouldn’t have tied a mid table team

Think this is why people are upset

We have a better bench but still a pretty shit one. Why are we subbing in CBs !! Every game when we don’t have injuries. Only 1 sub striker and he is way past his prime. Then it’s sub out the whole midfield and hope something happens

We just don’t have a team for more than one tournament. Maybe next season

It's crazy how much overreaction is going around here. I mean, look at other top clubs for example, Barca dropped points against one of bottom teams of their league, ManCity has been in a shaky form lately as well, Bayern isn't as sharp as they were in usual. Every top team you wanna name it, has a period of shaky form.

Nobody is denying how we threw away 5pts against Sassuolo and Bologna, but it's not the end of the world. We are still the most competitive team of the league despite of pros and cons. Fact that we are creating a bunch of chances in every match, goes to show that we are doing well. I don't even know if these guys commenting over Milan/Pioli are even watching their games. The latter have incredibly difficult time of creating chances as much as we do. And their players are even worse in term of consistency if you wanna compare them to Inter.

We'll get through this period of shaky form.