Simone Inzaghi

[.h.]

It's crazy how much overreaction is going around here. I mean, look at other top clubs for example, Barca dropped points against one of bottom teams of their league, ManCity has been in a shaky form lately as well, Bayern isn't as sharp as they were in usual. Every top team you wanna name it, has a period of shaky form.

Nobody is denying how we threw away 5pts against Sassuolo and Bologna, but it's not the end of the world. We are still the most competitive team of the league despite of pros and cons. Fact that we are creating a bunch of chances in every match, goes to show that we are doing well. I don't even know if these guys commenting over Milan/Pioli are even watching their games. The latter have incredibly difficult time of creating chances as much as we do. And their players are even worse in term of consistency if you wanna compare them to Inter.

We'll get through this period of shaky form.

we're the most competitive team in the league, but now we're 2 points behind the team we smashed 5-1, who've faced harder opposition than we have.

yeah, there's a lot of overreaction, but can you blame people? we should be in cruise control - instead, we've played nothing but shit games for like 3 weeks and have gone behind in the league when we should be minimum 3 points clear

 

[bubba zanetti]

It's crazy how much overreaction is going around here. I mean, look at other top clubs for example, Barca dropped points against one of bottom teams of their league, ManCity has been in a shaky form lately as well, Bayern isn't as sharp as they were in usual. Every top team you wanna name it, has a period of shaky form.

Nobody is denying how we threw away 5pts against Sassuolo and Bologna, but it's not the end of the world. We are still the most competitive team of the league despite of pros and cons. Fact that we are creating a bunch of chances in every match, goes to show that we are doing well. I don't even know if these guys commenting over Milan/Pioli are even watching their games. The latter have incredibly difficult time of creating chances as much as we do. And their players are even worse in term of consistency if you wanna compare them to Inter.

We'll get through this period of shaky form.

Barca, City, Bayern all won their championships last season, we didnt. This season beelan can get second star. Team that we humiliate last year. But who cares about that if in the end they win scudetto again. Nothing wrong to be pissed right now.

 

[CafeCordoba]

we're the most competitive team in the league, but now we're 2 points behind the team we smashed 5-1, who've faced harder opposition than we have.

yeah, there's a lot of overreaction, but can you blame people? we should be in cruise control - instead, we've played nothing but shit games for like 3 weeks and have gone behind in the league when we should be minimum 3 points clear

There is no cruise control in any top league, be serious. Nothing like shit games sounds like a massive overreaction given we've played 0-4 Salernitana and ran over Benfica in that second half (despite scoring just 1). Our game is working. It can't win every match but in general it's working.

Be patient people, season is not eight matches long. It's THIRTYEIGHT matches long.

 

[Besnik]

we're the most competitive team in the league, but now we're 2 points behind the team we smashed 5-1, who've faced harder opposition than we have.

yeah, there's a lot of overreaction, but can you blame people? we should be in cruise control - instead, we've played nothing but shit games for like 3 weeks and have gone behind in the league when we should be minimum 3 points clear

Harder opposition according to what? Have you even seen their matches against these harder opponents you say? In paper yes, they had a more difficult schedule but our match against Empoli was MUCH harder clash than their match vs Bologna in the opener of the season for example. In usual, beginning matches of season are very unpredictable, and they caught Bologna off guard, then Roma were beyond pathetic. Also teams like Lazio and Torino were extremely inconsistent these matches. I mean, it's only matchday 8, and we are 2pts from the first spot, where's the big deal out of this?

Our opponents may have not been as good as theirs in paper, but we have seen a tough battle against Empoli, Bologna, Monza as well. Cagliari were rather poor, same goes for Viola too, but the very same Viola managed to smash Napoli away from home. It goes to show that anyone can defeat anyone in this league.

In fact, even in these matches we have lost points, we were still creating chances, dominated the game and everything else, but we got a little bit ahead of ourselves so karma hit us back. Then again, just before a couple of weeks, you had teams like Lecce and Frosinone up in the standings.

 

[Besnik]

Barca, City, Bayern all won their championships last season, we didnt. This season beelan can get second star. Team that we humiliate last year. But who cares about that if in the end they win scudetto again. Nothing wrong to be pissed right now.

What's the context behind the "Barca, City, Bayern all won their championships last season, we didn't" ?

Napoli won Scudetto last season, but they are VERY inconsistent so far. Are they out of race for the title? Absolutely not. At this point, race for Scudetto has just begun. I don't even know why you guys bring up bold statements while it's only matchday 8.

Did you guys expect us to never concede? Or never drop points at home?

 

[wera]

Just go check on wikipedia how many Scudetto winners have problems losing points to Bologna and Sassuolo. It's when we lose points to Sampdoria, Cremonese and Parma that I am deeply concerned.

Inzaghi made us a good machine and I fully support him.

 

[.h.]

Harder opposition according to what? Have you even seen their matches against these harder opponents you say? In paper yes, they had a more difficult schedule but our match against Empoli was MUCH harder clash than their match vs Bologna in the opener of the season for example.

That's kind of the point, though. They've already beat Roma and Lazio - you could argue the only tough game we've won so far is Milan.

The fact that we're struggling against these easier teams is exactly the issue.

 

[.h.]

There is no cruise control in any top league, be serious. Nothing like shit games sounds like a massive overreaction given we've played 0-4 Salernitana and ran over Benfica in that second half (despite scoring just 1). Our game is working. It can't win every match but in general it's working.

Be patient people, season is not eight matches long. It's THIRTYEIGHT matches long.

yeah, we cant win every match, but we cant even win the easy matches.

Sure, we're not even 1/4 of the way through the league season yet, but the hardest games are to come, and the time to appreciate you're off course is when you take 3 steps in the wrong direction, not 3000.

I'm not suggesting we need to change coaches or anything, but blindly thinking everything is fine isn't the right way forward either. There are major problems in the team right now, and we need to be conscious of them to even think about fixing them.

 

[Besnik]

That's kind of the point, though. They've already beat Roma and Lazio - you could argue the only tough game we've won so far is Milan.

The fact that we're struggling against these easier teams is exactly the issue.

Have you even seen these matches about the teams you mentioned above?

Another thing, wasn't match against Empoli a tough game? We struggled far more against Empoli than against Milan or Viola.

You make it sound like football is a science whether you find it out and calcuate everything properly and boom, instant delivery. For example, Milan's last match vs Genoa was far tougher than their match vs Roma. The latter was beyond pathetic, created almost nothing and defended like Serie C team, while Genoa despite being inferior in paper, they created more than Milan, were convincing until they were robbed in the end.

Whatever you said in the second point is not true at all. Despite that we haven't produced impressive performances against Empoli and Salernitana, we still won. Also against Bologna and Sassuolo we created alot, dominated in most part of the match but still lost because we got a little cocky. So your points of struggling against easier teams is absolutely not true. Last season we had matches while we lost and we created almost nothing.

 

[.h.]

Have you even seen these matches about the teams you mentioned above?

Another thing, wasn't match against Empoli a tough game? We struggled far more against Empoli than against Milan or Viola.

You make it sound like football is a science whether you find it out and calcuate everything properly and boom, instant delivery. For example, Milan's last match vs Genoa was far tougher than their match vs Roma. The latter was beyond pathetic, created almost nothing and defended like Serie C team, while Genoa despite being inferior in paper, they created more than Milan, were convincing until they were robbed in the end.

Whatever you said in the second point is not true at all. Despite that we haven't produced impressive performances against Empoli and Salernitana, we still won. Also against Bologna and Sassuolo we created alot, dominated in most part of the match but still lost because we got a little cocky. So your points of struggling against easier teams is absolutely not true. Last season we had matches while we lost and we created almost nothing.

Yes, but Empoli exactly as a point shouldnt have been that tough a game

And, you're right, its not an exact science, sometimes one team that sucks ass one week can be really good the next. But right now, we seem to be hitting a lot of 'tough games', and we're not exactly playing against the hardest opposition in the league.

They say these are the sorts of games that champions need to win to win the league - but you also need to look good at points too. Right now we're looking quite far from a really good team capable of challenging for the league.


And, as.I said, we're now 2 points behind, having had the easier schedule so far. That's just a travesty. It's only an uphill battle from here.

 

[Besnik]

Yes, but Empoli exactly as a point shouldnt have been that tough a game

And, you're right, its not an exact science, sometimes one team that sucks ass one week can be really good the next. But right now, we seem to be hitting a lot of 'tough games', and we're not exactly playing against the hardest opposition in the league.

They say these are the sorts of games that champions need to win to win the league - but you also need to look good at points too. Right now we're looking quite far from a really good team capable of challenging for the league.


And, as.I said, we're now 2 points behind, having had the easier schedule so far. That's just a travesty. It's only an uphill battle from here.

But having a tough game doesn't always depend on us. Some teams can pull an incredible performance by playing VERY good and disciplined tactically that makes things harder for us or any other top team. Empoli was very difficult to break. I even admitted myself that we weren't that sharp in every match, but despite of that, we still created tons of chances and we dominated our opponents.

Who knows what will happen in the upcoming matches. Milan may still win over Gobbi, but drop points against any other "easier" team. Football is very unpredictable, especially these days how every team can play football. Favourites can be in paper, but once you step in the pitch, it's another history. I'd say we are consistent so far. Just because we dropped points against Bologna and Sassuolo, that doesn't take away our ability to dominate anyone and create chances even against teams whom are tactically strict.

 

[Universe]

Eh. Sample size is small but the evidence is even simpler than that:

With the exception of Milan who finished 4th last season, we haven’t played a single team from last season’s top 8. And yet we’re still dropping points and losing at home to shit sides after taking the lead. Inexcusable.

Milan’s schedule has been much, much tougher than ours. They played last season’s runner ups and dismantled them without ever having to go above 60%. They got trashed by us but also humiliated Roma away and more importantly, haven’t dropped a single point against the smaller teams.

What I’m saying is minus the derby, they’ve shown an ability to reliably beat teams both big and small. We objectively have not.

 

[CafeCordoba]

We beat last season's top 8 team Fiorentina 4-0.

What this inexcusable means? Have there been some excuses or what does that mean?

I wouldn't call that Genoa win some reliable win, at all. It was pure lucky win, they created one chance (Leao) apart from that goal chance which was incorrectly ruled as not a handball. We played better against Bologna and Sassuolo than what Milan played against Genoa. Them getting the 3 points is the result but it's not reliable when you watch the actual football. Objectively.

 

[Adriano@10]

we're the most competitive team in the league, but now we're 2 points behind the team we smashed 5-1, who've faced harder opposition than we have.

yeah, there's a lot of overreaction, but can you blame people? we should be in cruise control - instead, we've played nothing but shit games for like 3 weeks and have gone behind in the league when we should be minimum 3 points clear

Yes i can blame people especially if they have been following football for more than one fucken season....
Again we had one of our best serie a starts in the over 100 years history of this club...
Based on the small sample size we have we are well on our way to challenge for the scudetto...
Seasons are long and shit happens.... to evey fucken team in every fucken league....

Some people in here are acting as if we were bayern playing in that mickymouse league they call bundesliga..
Even if we are favourites the distance to jube napoli and beelan aint that big

 

[.h.]

Yes i can blame people especially if they have been following football for more than one fucken season....
Again we had one of our best serie a starts in the over 100 years history of this club...
Based on the small sample size we have we are well on our way to challenge for the scudetto...
Seasons are long and shit happens.... to evey fucken team in every fucken league....

Some people in here are acting as if we were bayern playing in that mickymouse league they call bundesliga..
Even if we are favourites the distance to jube napoli and beelan aint that big

that's the point, though. We've thrown away such a great start. A start is only relative to the competition, too. If you play 8 and win 5 and its the first time in 50 years you've won the first 5 of 8 games, its irrelevant if (hypothetically), Juve and Milan have won 8/8.

The fact that we're 2 points behind a team who've played harder opposition than us, and we smashed, is just sad really.

 

[Adriano@10]

that's the point, though. We've thrown away such a great start. A start is only relative to the competition, too. If you play 8 and win 5 and its the first time in 50 years you've won the first 5 of 8 games, its irrelevant if (hypothetically), Juve and Milan have won 8/8.

The fact that we're 2 points behind a team who've played harder opposition than us, and we smashed, is just sad really.

And all of this will be irrelevant/forgotten if we win the scudetto.... Nobody will care who was first after game day 8......

Also again i m not saying one cannot be disappointed but some people here make it sound like Inzaghi is a scrub....
All i m saying is to me there is a lot of panic and overreaction on this forum atm...

 

[.h.]

And all of this will be irrelevant/forgotten if we win the scudetto.... Nobody will care who was first after game day 8......

Also again i m not saying one cannot be disappointed but some people here make it sound like Inzaghi is a scrub....
All i m saying is to me there is a lot of panic and overreaction on this forum atm...

yeah, and the point is the chance of us winning the scudetto just significantly decreased.

its (not far from) being like saying if zhang signed mbappe, hakimi, and haaland, everyone would love him

well, yes, if we won the scudetto this is noise in history, but we're fucking up what should be the easiest part of the scudetto journey.


Its like telling yourself your child is going to win a nobel prize, yet they're aged 12 and still eating crayons. There's plenty of time left, but at some point you need to question if you need to manage your own expectations.

 

[Adriano@10]

yeah, and the point is the chance of us winning the scudetto just significantly decreased.

its (not far from) being like saying if zhang signed mbappe, hakimi, and haaland, everyone would love him

well, yes, if we won the scudetto this is noise in history, but we're fucking up what should be the easiest part of the scudetto journey.


Its like telling yourself your child is going to win a nobel prize, yet they're aged 12 and still eating crayons. There's plenty of time left, but at some point you need to question if you need to manage your own expectations.

It is far off... Zhang has no chance to sign any of the players mentioned atm......
Both your analoges are faaaaaaar fucken off and thats my beef with this whole inzaghi critique......
Our chances to win the scudetto after 8 fucken games played are not materially different if we are 2 points off from first or if we re first with a 2/3 point lead....

In your child analogy if you are convinced your child wins a nobel prize when said child is 12 there is something seriously wrong with your expectations wether that child eats crayons or is first in every class it attends..

Like how much better than bbilan jube and napoli do you think our squad is?
Yes we are favourites or were favourites after the derby, but lets not forget that was not the case before the season started....
Again imho we re well on course to challenge for the scudetto till the end of the season, so i dont get the amount of bitching around inzaghi..
Also imho he gets the least shit for the game he was most responsible for us not bringing home the 3 points which was san sebastian which also happend to be the thoughest game out of the 3...
But wtf should/could he have done better against bologna? We ve started the game perfectly and then t s two huge fuck ups which imho have nothing to do with the coach, he cant stop lauti from giving that pen away and the defensive fuck up was not due to a bad tactical set up it was our 3 cbs sleeping/miscommunicating shit like that happens no matter who the coach. Also ot like we ve seen these thing under inzaghi happen frequent enough that we can blame him...
Last but not least his options of the bench when a goal is desperately needed are very limited at them moment.

Bottom line yes dropping these points is disappointingbut again i dont see how this fucked our chances on the scudetto or anything...

 

[.h.]

It is far off... Zhang has no chance to sign any of the players mentioned atm......
Both your analoges are faaaaaaar fucken off and thats my beef with this whole inzaghi critique......
Our chances to win the scudetto after 8 fucken games played are not materially different if we are 2 points off from first or if we re first with a 2/3 point lead....

In your child analogy if you are convinced your child wins a nobel prize when said child is 12 there is something seriously wrong with your expectations wether that child eats crayons or is first in every class it attends..

Like how much better than bbilan jube and napoli do you think our squad is?
Yes we are favourites or were favourites after the derby, but lets not forget that was not the case before the season started....
Again imho we re well on course to challenge for the scudetto till the end of the season, so i dont get the amount of bitching around inzaghi..
Also imho he gets the least shit for the game he was most responsible for us not bringing home the 3 points which was san sebastian which also happend to be the thoughest game out of the 3...
But wtf should/could he have done better against bologna? We ve started the game perfectly and then t s two huge fuck ups which imho have nothing to do with the coach, he cant stop lauti from giving that pen away and the defensive fuck up was not due to a bad tactical set up it was our 3 cbs sleeping/miscommunicating shit like that happens no matter who the coach. Also ot like we ve seen these thing under inzaghi happen frequent enough that we can blame him...
Last but not least his options of the bench when a goal is desperately needed are very limited at them moment.

Bottom line yes dropping these points is disappointingbut again i dont see how this fucked our chances on the scudetto or anything...

I dont think any of their squads are better than our squads, but I think our manager has never demonstrated any real success in the league, and our league form over the 2 seasons we've had him has gotten worse every single season.

The chance of winning the scudetto if you're on 19 vs 21 vs 23 points is probably quite significantly different. Yes, its not set in stone yet. No one disputes that, but there's a massive difference psychologically between being ontop of the rival you thrashed 5-1, and below them.

 

[Adriano@10]

I dont think any of their squads are better than our squads, but I think our manager has never demonstrated any real success in the league, and our league form over the 2 seasons we've had him has gotten worse every single season.

The chance of winning the scudetto if you're on 19 vs 21 vs 23 points is probably quite significantly different. Yes, its not set in stone yet. No one disputes that, but there's a massive difference psychologically between being ontop of the rival you thrashed 5-1, and below them.

MEH.....
Bilans first time they were on top of serie a in their scudetto season was game day 16.... In that very season we were first on game day 24 and napoli game day 27....
In our scudetto season BBilan was first on game day 21
We were first on game day 15 when jube won in 19/20

Unless you have a league that has one cut clear dominant team (last season napoli/ jube 18/19) who is first on game day 8 really tells you very little about whos gonna end up with the scudetto....
Imho we dont have a season where one top team will clearly run with it...

Also not sure if true but i think ths has been inzaghis best league start with us so how is his league form getting worse every season? Also why are we completely ignoring CL? Or at least use it as some context as to why we might have been weaker in the league in the season that we reached a CL final vs the one we went out in the round of 16?