Juventus - Inter (4 Nov 07)

Kraits said:

dacourt would made no difference with burdisso..

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A player who is experienced in playing the defensive midfielder role for around 10+ years, compared to a defender who has barely played this role for 2-3 times. What an insult!

Kraits said:

But figo injured. with
Subs: 22 Orlandoni, 16 Burdisso, 6 Maxwell, 21 Solari, 15 Dacourt, 18 Crespo, 29 Suazo.

who would you replace him with? solari? would lost his name in a game like these. Maxwell? personally i think he is physically too weak for this clash, look at those gobbies... dacourt would made no difference with burdisso..

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I would switch it to 4-3-1-2 with Cesar playing behind strikers, and Esteban, Dacourt and Javier playing in the midfield.

But if you ask me, I would never start with 442 in the first place.

Wallace said:

A player who is experienced in playing the defensive midfielder role for around 10+ years, compared to a defender who has barely played this role for 2-3 times. What an insult!

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sorry but you got me wrong..
i was trying to say in the attacking point of view.
Dacout would not involve more that burdisso in attack.

Well dacourt is crap offensively, so in that matter i dont think it matters if its burdisso or dacourt.

Although burdisso has shown that he can be dangerous on corners.

Lukair said:

I would switch it to 4-3-1-2 with Cesar playing behind strikers, and Esteban, Dacourt and Javier playing in the midfield.

But if you ask me, I would never start with 442 in the first place.

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you got your point there.. i would be more happy to see a 4-3-1-2 also..
since we have been long without some true wingers..

But in this game i still very much believe we did well..
the stats says so.. because if the tactic is not working the stats would not show that way.. anyway just my point of view.. and stats are no longer important since we have lost the points to jubes.. but i wont say mancini lost them..

Sorry for being offending you earlier.. people say bad about the coach and players are okay to me.. but i would not give any respects to those who dont give respects to others.. cheers..

Azzkikr said:

Well dacourt is crap offensively, so in that matter i dont think it matters if its burdisso or dacourt.

Although burdisso has shown that he can be dangerous on corners.

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Thanks, thats my point. very true indeed.

good performance, good stuff my mancini sticking with cruz over crespo.

offer me a draw before the match i would of taken it, simply because they had alot much more to lose and would come out there itching at the bit to do all they can, not to mention we were palyign away means we would rarely be in control of posession for long periods.


some of you think we have 11 supermen, or ought to have 11 supermen. Considering the circumstances, i think its a good result.

but its still funny to see how little boys have their minds sway after each little result.


asskicker: good point abotu cesar, but im sure mancini already knows this as we all do. and that decision was 100% correct. why? i know you love him but maxwell would of been a defensive liability today, make no mistake.

h2o said:

good performance, good stuff my mancini sticking with cruz over crespo.

offer me a draw before the match i would of taken it, simply because they had alot much more to lose and would come out there itching at the bit to do all they can, not to mention we were palyign away means we would rarely be in control of posession for long periods.


some of you think we have 11 supermen, or ought to have 11 supermen. Considering the circumstances, i think its a good result.

but its still funny to see how little boys have their minds sway after each little result.


asskicker: good point abotu cesar, but im sure mancini already knows this as we all do. and that decision was 100% correct. why? i know you love him but maxwell would of been a defensive liability today, make no mistake.

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Mancini was disappointed by the result as well.

"We wasted an important chance to increase our lead in the table today. The only demerit was not having killed off the match."

http://www.inter.it/aas/news/reader?N=27875&L=en

and? im not stupid, i saw us miss chances. but the fact remains, we stayed unbeaten and we still on top of serie A. 4 point in front of these ****s, who were dyinggggggg to beat us at home after so long. We did well to come and spoil the party. just wait for the match @ the GM.

Azzkikr said:

Well dacourt is crap offensively, so in that matter i dont think it matters if its burdisso or dacourt.

Although burdisso has shown that he can be dangerous on corners.

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last 2 goals assisted by Tiger Dacourt ,well it was a ong time ago but he int as bad as people make him out >>notice music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyx8GDQbhbQ

Rimpel, Can i watch the next inter game on teh same site??? or do we have to wait till they say wich games they will show..cause it was english so i dont know if they show many inter/italians games on

The__legend#7 said:

Rimpel, Can i watch the next inter game on teh same site??? or do we have to wait till they say wich games they will show..cause it was english so i dont know if they show many inter/italians games on

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They showed Inter - Genoa on that site as well, so I hope so. But I can't say for sure, let's hope so Check their website the day the match is played. But I don't think they'll be showing live coverage of Inter's Champions League games but I could be wrong.

yes lets Hope so
would be great

thanks

We should have scored more goals we deserved a win Suazo and Ibra misses a lot as well as Cesar who was not good today.

lol, I knew Mancini would be getting blamed over here. There are some idiots over here, who think that we should win the league by grabbing all 114 points.

Good result considering we were playing at Turin. Draw was a fair result. We didnt deserve to win the game considering our poor first half.

- Mancini didnt have much of a choice, when the blonde bi*tch injured Figo. I mean look at our subs bench, Burdisso was definitely the best choice.
-Chivu was great defensively, I am glad Mancini started with instead of Maxwell. Maxwell would have been a defensive liability.
-Cesar R. played like the Cesar of 2 years ago, when we first bought him. Pure garbage. He was our worst player in the first half. Good assist though.
-Ibrahimovic, usually disappears in big games, and that is exactly what happened
-Suazo really impressed when he came on. He made a chance out of nothing, that was a great move, when he turned round 2 Gobbi defenders, too bad Zlatan couldnt finish it.
-Chellini is a little b*itch, but he played very well today. Also Pallidino was class as well. Juve's youth academy is 50 times better than our youth academy.

Wait, Benitez's name is being thrown around here?

And as for Mourinho sure, he's a great coach but why are you guys overlooking the fact that he did NOT won the EPL last season? You'd probably blame it on Chelsea's injuries, but take a look at our own injury list currently. Remember how Chelsea started this season as well? Mancini's Inter is at the top of Serie A; Mourinho's Chelsea was languishing at mid-table.

I don't wanna turn this into a Mancini v Mourinho debate but neither of them is perfect. It is only fair that you look at both coaches' pros and cons instead of concentrating at Mancini's weakness and Mourinho's strengths.

Perhaps it was the fact that we were defending champions or the fact that we have a better squad and were top of the table. Or maybe it was simply down to the fact that the buildup to the match was not as bitter and acrimonious as when Juventus were last in Serie A. Whatever the reason, prior to the match and whilst watching the game, I did not experience the angst, tension and nerves that came with previous Derby of Italy encounters. In some sick way, I found myself wishing for the encounters when Juventus were at full strength and were leaning on match officials as the encounter between the two teams lacked a distinctive edge.

With regards to the match itself, the first half up until Cruz's goal was frustrating. Inter were caught offside on countless occassions and I found myself wondering whether our players needed a refresher course on the offside rule or whether we were playing against the great Milan defence of the early 90s with Franco Baresi leading the offside trap. In my opinion, the amount of times our players were caught offside was unforgivable and led to the breakdown of many promising moves that may have led to scoring opportunities.

I would also like to comment on Chivu. In recent weeks I have been impressed with his performances but I was disappointed with the manner in which Juventus scored their equaliser. If you look at it closely, Chivu appears to be looking for a free kick. In my opinion, he contested the header in the box in a token manner with a view to convincing the referee that he had been pushed/leaned on. The referee did not blow the whistle and play continued during which time Chivu is kneeling in the box, not making an effort to get up and looking over his shoulder as Juventus score the equaliser. If Chivu had gone to ground as a result of honestly contesting the header and being slow to get up I would not have an issue but he tried to make a possible foul out of the contest and trick the referee. He was unsuccessful and Juventus scored, thus salvaging a point.

Another thing that crossed my mind while I was watching Cesar pass to our opponents, was where the hell is Solari? Is the latter player so terrible that Mancini picks Cesar ahead of him? I simply can not understand why Solari is so under utilised.

Lastly, I would just like to save a thought for Adriano who did not travel to Turin as he was not a part of Mancini's squad. I support the action Mancini has thus far taken against Adriano but I believe our coach continues to show a great deal more patience for our other strikers to the detriment of Adriano's place in the squad. I am in no way suggesting that Adriano should have played against Juventus but I do believe that Suazo is struggling and appears to lack confidence at Inter. Perhaps our expectations are simply too high but what I would like to say that an angry, hungry, determined Adriano with a point to prove may be better than a place assured David Suazo.

Special mention has to go to Maicon. During the match, I found myself smiling as he is new when it comes to the Inter v Juventus rivalry. I think what made me smile most was how fearless he was and how our opponents struggled to get a handle on him. Also, Capitano deserves a special mention. Some of his dribbles made his oponents look second rate. I cant help but love him!

I note that at the end of the game, Mancini commented that Inter should have won the game. Mancini, I concur but I will take a draw if we can beat them with our full strength team at the Meazza.

Puma said:

but I do believe that Suazo is struggling and appears to lack confidence at Inter. Perhaps our expectations are simply too high but what I would like to say that an angry, hungry, determined Adriano with a point to prove may be better than a place assured David Suazo.

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Did you watch the game? Suazo's functionality was fully and truly exposed this game, just look at the way he threatened the opponent, who wanted to push up but feared Suazo.

You simply chose the wrong time to criticize Suazo .

As for Mancini vs Mourinho, I'm happy with the work Mancini has done thus far, changing coach now would be seriously the dumbest thing to do to unstablize our squad.

We draw and coaches names are everywhere...Guys relax we are on top,we played a below than our usual game but relax we had our chances to win too..We let them into the game by giving them the confidence boost by sitting back but we still looked Ok on the counter..

The only thing i would have changed is put Dacourt in and not Burdissther than that lots of players played an excellent game like MOM Samuel,Cambi,and Chivu..

Figo before getting injured was defending like hell..I was impressed,lets hope his injury isnt serious because we cant manage to look good without him right now.I also hope the management realize that and get us someone to fill his BIG shoes

Lukair said:

I got 2 questions for you guys. What happened with our 2 best in form players. That is Figo and Zlatan. Zlatan was winning our games, passing, scorring, he was even our playmaker. So what happened?

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This is what happens when we have to reply our attack on Zlatan and as for Figo, I think he wasn't that too bad. Zlatan would surely have had few bad matches and he kinda had yesterday but still, he tried though.

I was kinda furious with our coach for going so defensive. We could have brought Maxwell instead of Burdisso. With 4 central defenders playing in the back 4, it affected our offence alot. Anywaz, I hope he doesn't go that defensive later on. Injuries also didn't do us any good in this game.