Wesley Sneijder

Luka · Aug 2, 2009

CafeCordoba said:
Don't explain me things like I'm some 10-year-old child. I'm not living in a fantasy world, I'm living in a world where Inter is about to make stupid deals.

Inter definitely have leverage over RM in this one. Don't people take that 27m€ into account here. It was overprice there so we shouldn't count that a little less than that is okay because RM wants to get rid of the player. Inter is probably the best counterpart for negotiations for RM because we have some ability to pay big salaries (Huntelaar case, Stuttgart agreed the price but couldn't match Huntelaar's demand). Other clubs maybe interested in Sneijder can't afford to have him.

RM inflated the prices and now they will suffer because of it. Every club knows they have to reduce their squad, so no one is willing to pay reasonable amounts for RM players. Inter definitely have the leverage here, every club making business with RM have leverage. It just has to be used because RM needs to get rid of these players seriously.

I never said we don't have a leverage.

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(It is not directed towards you CC)

Some figures here on the forums are low anyways, and all our deals that go out are "ok" at most, while most of the deals we are getting in are bad/not good enough etc.

When all the world was amazed how good deal Inter is doing for Ibra, most of the comments here at the beginning were "the deal is bad/not good enough", and when we wil get at least 50 mil it will be (just) "ok". The notion is that it took reading all the comments, and all the pundits praising Moratti for doing this deal, for people to acknoledge we're doing in fact a great deal from economic point of view.

BlueWhale · Aug 2, 2009

Mustafa said:
Replace Santon with Zanetti unless you think our captain will be benched.

Santon is our future Captain.

Mustafa · Aug 2, 2009

BlueWhale said:
Santon is our future Captain.

I have nothing against it, but for the next 1 or maybe 2 years Zanetti will be our captain.

BlueWhale · Aug 2, 2009

Mustafa said:
I have nothing against it, but for the next 1 or maybe 2 years Zanetti will be our captain.

Is it possible for Lucio now?

Mustafa · Aug 2, 2009

Alex de Large said:
Please e-mail Sneijder and tell him to come and how great he will turn with us and Mourinho http://www.sneijderofficial.com/es/contacto.asp

Just did

Mustafa · Aug 2, 2009

BlueWhale said:
Is it possible for Lucio now?

What is possible for Lucio?

Efrain21C · Aug 2, 2009

I also did

Forza Nerazurri · Aug 2, 2009

http://www.goal.com/en/news/12/spai...-deal-for-real-madrids-wesley-sneijder-report

wud love it if it was true

Forza ragazzi · Aug 2, 2009

CafeCordoba said:
Don't explain me things like I'm some 10-year-old child. I'm not living in a fantasy world, I'm living in a world where Inter is about to make stupid deals.

Inter definitely have leverage over RM in this one. Don't people take that 27m€ into account here. It was overprice there so we shouldn't count that a little less than that is okay because RM wants to get rid of the player. Inter is probably the best counterpart for negotiations for RM because we have some ability to pay big salaries (Huntelaar case, Stuttgart agreed the price but couldn't match Huntelaar's demand). Other clubs maybe interested in Sneijder can't afford to have him.

RM inflated the prices and now they will suffer because of it. Every club knows they have to reduce their squad, so no one is willing to pay reasonable amounts for RM players. Inter definitely have the leverage here, every club making business with RM have leverage. It just has to be used because RM needs to get rid of these players seriously.

Everything is not just about squeezing pennies. We have an excellent rapport with Real Madrid and keeping it that way is beneficial. No one likes a club that is only looking for bargains and cheap solutions for themselves, while prizing their own players way too high.

I don't think any of us really knows enough about how transfer deals are made so I believe it's wrong to say anything about how much things should cost etc.

CafeCordoba · Aug 2, 2009

Yes, Luka style is better. Praise the Inter management for every deal they make, because "we have no idea how hard and difficult the negotiations can be".

Btw, could that 3m€ cost of the loan mean the whole cost for Inter for that deal? I mean that RM pay the player's salary still but we give them 3m€ to ease that pain?

I know this might sound squeezing the pennies again but 18m€ for Sneijder is better than 21m€ for Sneijder.

CafeCordoba · Aug 2, 2009

24oredisport reports that the deal is done. Though they say they don't know if the payment for the loan is "under consideration" (wtf?) or is it free of charge.

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A//www.24oredisport.com/%3Faction%3Dread%26idnotizia%3D15263&hl=en&langpair=auto|en&tbb=1&ie=ISO-8859-1

Well, if it goes through now, at least we made it fast. He can already travel to China perhaps?

Let's stay tuned.

edit. Though I believe this is still got to do with the agreement between the clubs, nothing else.

alvaro · Aug 2, 2009

Oooh Wesley :thumbsup:! Maybe not the best option for trequartista in 4-3-1-2 formation but surely an useful player for midfield tree of 4-3-3 (Sneijder-Cambiasso-Thiago Motta). Then sign Cassano and I would shit diamonds for a week.

Forza ragazzi · Aug 2, 2009

CafeCordoba said:
Yes, Luka style is better. Praise the Inter management for every deal they make, because "we have no idea how hard and difficult the negotiations can be".

Btw, could that 3m€ cost of the loan mean the whole cost for Inter for that deal? I mean that RM pay the player's salary still but we give them 3m€ to ease that pain?

I know this might sound squeezing the pennies again but 18m€ for Sneijder is again better than 21m€ for Sneijder.

You can do better than this. You know I don't agree with people praising Inter's management for everything. As I feel I've done numerous of times before, I merely point out that neither of us can know for sure and everything is assumptions. I'm not saying you are wrong, maybe the deal should be cheaper for us, or right. There are so many details with any contract anywhere. We have no ways to know the complexities of the deals.

You can obviously feel that the fee should be lower and argue that you wished it was, but at the end of the day I think one should be careful judging these things when one doesn't know all the details. You saying Inter's management is crap for buying Sneijder for 21m is as farfechted as Luka finding every path to praise it.

If we pay Real Madrid €3m for them to pay Sneijder's wages we are in effect paying his wages, aren't we?

Hussein · Aug 2, 2009

CafeCordoba said:
24oredisport reports that the deal is done. Though they say they don't know if the payment for the loan is "under consideration" (wtf?) or is it free of charge.

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A//www.24oredisport.com/%3Faction%3Dread%26idnotizia%3D15263&hl=en&langpair=auto|en&tbb=1&ie=ISO-8859-1

Well, if it goes through now, at least we made it fast. He can already travel to China perhaps?

Let's stay tuned.

edit. Though I believe this is still got to do with the agreement between the clubs, nothing else.

As you said in the edit part, this is all about having an agreement between the two clubs or let's say maybe the two clubs reached an "understanding".

I don't think there's anything serious yet and let's not forget that the player himself has said on numerous occasions this summer that he wants to stay and fight for a place at Real Madrid.

Even if the two clubs do reach a "concrete" agreement, I think that it will take some effort to convince him of joining us.

Most of us should remember what happened recently in the Hleb case... he preferred a move back to Stuttgart rather than joining us!

CafeCordoba · Aug 2, 2009

Forza ragazzi said:
You can do better than this. You know I don't agree with people praising Inter's management for everything. As I feel I've done numerous of times before, I merely point out that neither of us can know for sure and everything is assumptions. I'm not saying you are wrong, maybe the deal should be cheaper for us, or right. There are so many details with any contract anywhere. We have no ways to know the complexities of the deals.

You can obviously feel that the fee should be lower and argue that you wished it was, but at the end of the day I think one should be careful judging these things when one doesn't know all the details. You saying Inter's management is crap for buying Sneijder for 21m is as farfechted as Luka finding every path to praise it.

If we pay Real Madrid €3m for them to pay Sneijder's wages we are in effect paying his wages, aren't we?

Yeah, maybe I go to into too much detail in these things. In the sense of couple of millions here or there, and what should be the "right" price and so on.

For that last, what I meant is that if we pay them 3m€ and they pay Sneijder's salary (most probably RM pay Sneijder more than 3m€ gross) and that 3m€ is the "fee" of the loan, and the fixed price is 18m€, it's good.

I can also back off in this that if we can wrap this up by now (in couple of days) and we ultimately pay 18m€ to Real as transfer fee next summer (that 3m€ part of his salary for next season), it's starts to be pretty good.

CafeCordoba · Aug 2, 2009

Hussein said:
As you said in the edit part, this is all about having an agreement between the two clubs or let's say maybe the two clubs reached an "understanding".

I don't think there's anything serious yet and let's not forget that the player himself has said on numerous occasions this summer that he wants to stay and fight for a place at Real Madrid.

Even if the two clubs do reach a "concrete" agreement, I think that it will take some effort to convince him of joining us.

Most of us should remember what happened recently in the Hleb case... he preferred a move back to Stuttgart rather than joining us!

Yes, I'm little concerned about this too. That this Sneijder case is similar to Hleb's one, that wants to move on loan only to prove to RM and that he wants to go back there next summer. I don't feel that being a good thing at all, since Sneijder would be an immediate starting material and a crucial player for us.

So this is okay, only if Sneijder will have an attitude that his career will continue at Inter and not at RM.

Mustafa · Aug 2, 2009

CafeCordoba said:
Yes, I'm little concerned about this too. That this Sneijder case is similar to Hleb's one, that wants to move on loan only to prove to RM and that he wants to go back there next summer. I don't feel that being a good thing at all, since Sneijder would be an immediate starting material and a crucial player for us.

So this is okay, only if Sneijder will have an attitude that his career will continue at Inter and not at RM.

Even if he will be amazing at Inter no coach will bench C.Ronaldo or Kaka.

KsE · Aug 2, 2009

His agent, Søren Lerby, has been speaking positively about Inter recently and even though agents usually talk all kinds of shit to the media, we can hope that those positive remarks were based on conversations with his client.

As for the loan-to-buy issue I'm not overly concerned. If Wesley has a succesful season at Inter, I doubt he will want to go back to the bench in Madrid.

I hope they will conclude this soon. I would just hate for it to become another week-long transfer saga of rumours and speculation.

Sign it Wesley!

Alex de Large · Aug 2, 2009

Sneijder knows he is a starter for sure if he comes, Hleb not so much, actually i think Hleb rejected Inter cause he knows he is not good enough to play here.

Adam · Aug 2, 2009

I don't like the idea of Sneijder playing AM for us. If we buy him to play in CM then I'm extatic. AM role should be reserved for Cassano.

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