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What should we do about the rafa situation?


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Life isn't fair, you are suppose to cope with the hand you are dealt. Rafa is unable to cope, you need a manager who can cope when things are going well and bad.
 

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Luka, except eto, EVERYONE plays worse... EVERYONE... It's not 1, 2, nor 5 players, it's 10 out of 11...
I agree a lot people are playing worse. (I would exclude from this group Dejan, Motta - as we don't know him yet, Lucio, Cambiasso)

But I'm sure Pajo, we all knew that they will not repeat same season as they had last year. What do you think mate ?

ps. I think from the whole list you've put ;), it would be the easiest to identify with your point about Maicon and the fact Rafa tactics didn't help his game. I think if someone is hurting the most out of the tactic switch it's this guy.

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I think big problem is that we won the trebble last year. I'm not saying it was a bad thing we did it :p, I'm saying that it unnaturaly bumped up peoples expectations and view of the team, especialy of the players. Once they don't show the same determination, and will as they had last year, people notice it, and take it as not something special (what playes did last year was special), but standard that we should evaluate players on.

I have to say, I remember some very small group of people who insisted in the summer, that we overachived a lot, and that on a normal day our group is not even close to how well we did last year. And that last year our players played on 150%. I didn't agree to it back then, but now I see that it seems I was wrong, and those guys were right. I too got caught in this "trebble" optimism. I think rockball (can be wrong though) was the one who was advocating it a lot, and saying that the big reinforcments were crucial in the summer.

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I would like to say, that in Poland you guys ain't in minority ;)

Pretty much same percentage (larg group) want Rafa gone, there are still some (few) people that belong to my group. Last night one editorial guy wrote an article on the biggest inter page in Poland, that deals with Rafa and Jose (I think in Poland the cult of Jose is even bigger than in other countries, so that's why he touches that issue so aggresively). This is not spam, but I find it nice article, especialy written after the last nights game and wanted to translate it and put it here. I don't agree with every word of his, I have to say it, but I identify myself with great majority of what he said. Seems the guy also deffended Jose back in a day, so I see we has some things in common. Doesn't suprise me seeing this article ;)

I'll try to keep my posts limited from now on, since I basicly said all I wanted to say, and you guys, the group of the ones who criticise Benitez, it's just too big of a group, and it's basicly me versu 3, 4, 5 other guys. It will look like I'm repeating myself all the time.

I'll just add in the last, what I've said directly after the game. I don't believe Rafa will be fired. Not yet.

In football, like in real life - one day it's better, the other it's worse. This is natural way of things, that after a spell of succesful games the defeats come, and after a spell of defeats a pass of succesful games come. Some people tough, don't find it easy to understand it, and they also can't handle this situation in which Inter finds itself at the moment. And as we all know, when things don't go your way... you have to find a single individual, who is to blame for it all.

Some time ago, I had the pleasure to write for this site an editorial, so called deffense of one particular portugese guy. This time I'll try to partially excuse Rafa, although after this evening, this idea seems very brave, and for some even ridiculous. I understand the anger the fans are going through, because in this season Inter doesn't look very well, but no fan of the team of Milano should direct all his acusations to the coaches adress.

Lets start with the fact, that key players are often injured, and when they play, they play a lot worse, than how they did in previous seasons. And it's not because the spaniard didn't prepare them adequatly. We can ofcourse write books about it why this is happening, what's happening, and look for the new reasons. In my opinion the reason is very simple, the one I already touched at the beginning of this piece. Players of Inter are just humans, who can't be all the time in a disposition, they were in may at Bernabeu. It is pretty unreasonable that for the worse form of players we blame in the first place, not the player himself, but Benitez. Diego Milito doesn't score a lot of goals because he sees Benitez. Julio Cesar has injury, because he sees Benitez and not Mourinho. Davide Santon plays bad, because he sees Benitez. Soon enough we will assume, that outside of the window is snowing a lot, because at the bench of Inter is sitting Rafa, and not the portugese. If it was "The Special One" who would coach Inter, probably we would have the whether like in the tropics. In opinion of many fans, and also the president Moratti, Rafa got the team of champions, the team of champions who never make mistakes, and always win. And when they loose, it's because of the coach, because ofcourse our players are perfect in every way. This is very deluding and dangerous myth, in which some started to believe after a winningful season.

Ofcourse I don't believe, that Benitez is without the blame and I'm sure a team could present itself a little better. Rafa is a solid coach, but not from the top tier, which is known for a long time. He probably will still build a reasonably strong side, but for certain it will not have as high quality, as it was last season, and we simply have to come to terms with this.

Lastly, I would like to point to some behavioral pattern in some of us: the more games we loose, the more we worship... Mourinho. It is somewhat of a paradax, that I touching this issue am writing myself - as someone truthuly stated in the comment - in the current of writing about the portugese, but while after every defeat there will always be someone, who is crying after Jose, you have to react. When Benitez was taking charge of Inter, Mourinho was in our eyes magnificent coach, the one we will always fondly remember. When Milan is running away by every week, Jose is becoming "a big mag, a master of improvisation and widely considered grotesque, tzar of coaches and strategians".

I don't know, how well are you dealing with this situation, and what will you do after another defeat of Inter. Some will probably go into despair, and throwing darts at Benitez's picture. Me, on the other hand, I will think about it a little, and analize it, what happened, and tomorrow with a smile on my face I'll go with Benitez for a cold beer.

Because defeats, and bad coaches are written in existence of every big club, and you just have to live with it.

PS. Mourinho is far away from God, and we, the writers of articles, are far away from the greatest poets and writers.
 
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Of course, i didint expect another treble... But i do expect to beat brescia, to beat chievo. I expect us to play better, not like this.. I expect us to try harder, not like this.. and i expect a treble wining team not to be -10 in the begining of the league with more draws and defeats than wins.. Its sad tbh. And there, is where rafa makes mistakes, he is not motivating, he deploys tactics that is not fit for our team. He has to realize that. And i hope he does that soon enough, before we are totally fucked up (as we are not now :p), because i dont think moratti will fire rafa yet.. If we fail to win the CWC, than rafa will be fired 99%...
 

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It is the job from the coach to bring the players in form, also the players from the bench. I don't think it's not Benitez fault if Sneijder plays worse, Cuchu plays worse, Lucio plays worse and Milito plays like shit. It has to do with the coach. If you don't see this, it's sad...
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There is a chance that a new coach would fail as well, but life is like this. Big Ben is just in the wrong place at the wrong time. He's not the one who can get us out of the circumstances we're in or improve it as he clearly, evidently looks a coach who's not close to his players. We need one such coach desperately right now.

If we lose the CWC even under this guy, the dissapointment will be Huge combined with the dissapointment of losing the European Super Cup trophy as well. :(

IMO it is only a matter of time now. ( Defeats at the Olimpico have always been bad signs for us )
 

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There is a chance that a new coach would fail as well, but life is like this. Big Ben is just in the wrong place at the wrong time. He's not the one who can get us out of the circumstances we're in or improve it as he clearly, evidently looks a coach who's not close to his players. We need one such coach desperately right now.

If we lose the CWC even under this guy, the dissapointment will be Huge combined with the dissapointment of losing the European Super Cup trophy as well. :(

IMO it is only a matter of time now. ( Defeats at the Olimpico have always been bad signs for us )

I was thinking, what if we lose the CWC? I'm almost sure that Rafa wouldn't be part of the squad if that happens
 

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I was thinking, what if we lose the CWC?

That is a a fuckin' nightmare. I don't even wanna think about that. Plus Rafa has a history losing it :palm: Oh fuck me, please no... The while world will laugh at us.
 

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I'm praying to lose the CWC. I hate this fucking idiot called Benitez. Fuck his Liverpool shit tactics.
 

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I'm praying to lose the CWC. I hate this fucking idiot called Benitez. Fuck his Liverpool shit tactics.

Nooo man, we should win that shit no matter what it costs. There will be no next time that we can participate in this competition. We MUST win it. Fire Rafa after it, but WE MUST win it.
 

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I'm praying to lose the CWC. I hate this fucking idiot called Benitez. Fuck his Liverpool shit tactics.

:nono: No matter what, you shouldn't want Inter to lose the CWC. We need to win it. I don't like Benitez, I know I'm not alone there, but I still want Inter to win all that we can.
 

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yo come on now..its one thing to hate against rafa, but never and i mean never wish bad things on our team. thats just not classy!!
 

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I know that but if we win the CWC, I think Benitez:palm: will be our coach till the end of the season. That means we will finish out of Europa League(yes...Europa League, not Champions League) and eliminated from Coppa Italia by a second division team.
 

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why does moratti have a fetish for guardiola? i just don't see what he can bring to the team
 

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Cue people complaining that Guardiolla can't make Barcelona out of Inter, 12 months from now (if that ^^^ would happen) ;)
 

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I think Guardiola can manage the squad very well, his players at Barca fight for him.

We cant judge his tactical ability at Barca since they play only one way and there has never been a need for plan B.
 

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RO BE RTOOO BAGGIO LOLOLOLO ROBERTOOO BAGGIOOOOOOOO
 

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Pep is not going to happen. Why would any coach leave Barca? And why would Barca let him leave? It's not like we'll be able to offer THAT much more money. Not to mention the tactical questions that brings up.

Zenga as a temporary coach isn't a disaster I guess, but as a permanent choice is awful. I don't want us to hire any crappy temporary coach because once our players become healthy again and we possibly sign Cassano or whoever in January we're obviously going to improve. I don't want some crap coach getting credit for that and then being hired full time.
 

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Keep on dreaming..i beleive benitez wont leave inter so soon and we aint got a good replace for him..pepe wont leave barça.
 

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GdS speculates Zenga could be the ferryman for this season and then Moratti targets Guardiola.

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A//www.fcinter1908.it/%3Faction%3Dread%26idnotizia%3D14613&hl=en&langpair=auto|en&tbb=1&ie=ISO-8859-1

IMO Guardiola won't come as I think he will sign a renewal with Barcelona. I don't think Zenga is up to the task but what do I know? Could he be a true motivator for the young players we (hopefully) will build our new team?

As a ferryman he is ok. I would prefer a more experienced one but there might not be anyone available.
 
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