Éver Banega

[varmin]

Banega is not so high rated among the clubs. When we signed him, we didn't have stiff competition for his signature. Same happens again - there are only midtable clubs after him. Everton, Sevilla, Espanyol. Everton's offer even was loan + option. Fucking Brozovic has more market value than Banega

 

[Wallace]

Too bad Mancini wasn't here we could continue to hype up the theory that he wants any player who can pass out of the club.

This does not change the fact Mancini prefers the non passers.

Because we are actually replacing Banega with Valero, who can also pass well.

But what am I doing, I'm talking to a wall, Mancini fanboys will never understand this and will always somehow raise up Mancini in completely unrelated topics.

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Is selling Banega a try to avoid selling Perisic for FFP?

Yes, the grand total of 9mil is life and death for a club of our stature.

 

[Sassuolu]

This does not change the fact Mancini prefers the non passers.

Because we are actually replacing Banega with Valero, who can also pass well.

But what am I doing, I'm talking to a wall, Mancini fanboys will never understand this and will always somehow raise up Mancini in completely unrelated topics.

You did that too when Kovacic was sold which was ridiculous since it was a very big offer from Real for a player who Mancini wanted to depend on for the upcoming seasons since he played every preseason match as a starter. The comment was tongue in cheek and made fun of the fact that the Mancini lovers would blame him for all the woes of the club.

On Banega honestly we only saw glimpses of what he could do, if it means we keep Perisic then why not? I think the transfer fee and money saved on wages would be a good thing FFP wise. The most important thing is that Spalletti approved the deal and for the rest of it I have faith in the club to do the right thing since so far we have been patient looking for the right buys not buying for the sake of buying.

 

[Wallace]

Your understanding is completely tangential to the point I made.

Of course I did suggest Mancini screwee up our squad's creativity, I never shied away from that, let me explain this to you once more. With Mancini, we replaced a playmaker with a ball winning or whatever useless Jack of All trades Kondogbia. This is coherent to every single transfer move Mancini made previously when he formed his SWAT team.

This case is incomparable because we are replacing a playmaker with another. We are not trimming down our creative lineup here. Not to mention we still have Joao Mario and Gargliardini who can move the ball about.

This is incomparable to Mancini's situation where he depleted our already dire attacking quality in our midfield. Even if we end up replacing Banega with no one, it is simply the problem of Spaletti. Why does everything have to be link back to Mancini? It doesn't prove or falsify anything, because Mancini did what he did, and it is already set in stone.

Understand? I know you are trying to make fun of my deduction here, but you are completely missing the fucking point here.

 

[CafeCordoba]

We still need 21m€ to fill the UEFA demands?

 

[ScottishInterista]

We still need 21m€ to fill the UEFA demands?

Which is why sevilla is taking us on this bullshit ride. 20 million for two extremely talented, creative players who we lacked last season is bullshit.

 

[PHM1605]

To be honest, 9 mil for Banega is a great deal. It's probably relatively unprevedented, a bosman transfer which didnt work out but still getting good money for.

No, Banega case involves TWO deals which should not be mixed into one. Buying him on Bosman was great, selling him for 9m is shit.

It's like our previous accuse of buying Cou to grab Kova was reasonable. But if you separate them, 13m for Kova was good but 13m for Cou was a bullshit.

 

[rsz85]

What if we sell a player (anybody) to any club (eg. Jiangsu) for 30 million on June 30th with an agreement that we will buy him back on July for 31 million?

Win-win for both clubs...

 

[Hasan]

I still remember Sneijder tho :teeth:

I am not defending those idiotic moves but there is a reason why clubs taking step back from players like Sneijder and Banega.

About Banega, he knows how to play but in so many games he was very inconsistent and misplaced too many key passes. He looked like 28 years old, slower version of Kovacic with undefined position on the pitch and without final product.

i am afraid that he's midfield version of Jovetic and that Seville or Fiorentina are their maximum.

 

[Guz]

Maybe you're overestimating Banega's value; he's certainly a very talented player but, at 29, I think it's safe to say that he lacks the consistency to be the player around which we should build the team. I can understand that he wants to move back to Sevilla since he spent there the best seasons of his generally underwhelming career, and I think we should grant his wish (Spalletti said that whoever doesn't feel like playing for Inter can fuck off) on our terms of course (13-15M), but don't delude yourselves that a 20-30M bid from a team he would agree to move to (no China, Mexico, etc...) will ever fall on our lap.

 

[Sokrates]

What if we sell a player (anybody) to any club (eg. Jiangsu) for 30 million on June 30th with an agreement that we will buy him back on July for 31 million?

Win-win for both clubs...

Or why not sell Nagatomo to Juangsu for 30 and don't buy him back? :work: :troll:

 

[rsz85]

Or why not sell Nagatomo to Juangsu for 30 and don't buy him back? :work: :troll:

even better.

Finally: we would have many-many solution for avoiding this shit rule for June (if it's true..). It's just an excuse for selling some of our players

 

[firmino]

people here are being a bit delusional. This isnt really how the transfer market works.

Look at like, Fernando Llorente, or Dani Alves. They both will be/left Juve on a free transfer - Llorente wa porbably worth an easy 20 mil still when he quit Juve.

With a free transfer, if you sell soon after they arrive, its generally for free still (You didnt pay shit for him, why should I if you want to get rid of him)

To be honest, 9 mil for Banega is a great deal. It's probably relatively unprevedented, a bosman transfer which didnt work out but still getting good money for.


This isnt football manager, people

well, i wouldn't say that he failed to be honest.

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Or why not sell Nagatomo to Juangsu for 30 and don't buy him back? :work: :troll:

as long as we can convince FFP guys Suning actually want yogatomo and are willing to pay 30 mln euros for him... blivious:

 

[rockball]

20m for Banega and Jovetic is a great deal.

 

[I4E]

20m for Banega and Jovetic is a great deal.

Buy one get one free. Fire sale.

 

[Universe]

20m for Banega and Jovetic is a great deal.

For the team buying, yea, that's like the greatest deal in history.

 

[InterFCAustin]

Guys...y'all forgetting we need 30mil ASAP! Yeah, 20 mil for Banega & Jovetic are low...but if that means we get to keep Perisic, satisfy fucking Uefa and get rid of 6.5mil salary, by all fucking means...sell them! Borja Valero is better and more proven and consistent in Serie A then Banega and much smarter player, so it's not like we're gonna miss him...Banega might be a good player at Sevilla and in Spain, but he just didn't work in Italy. Y'all talking about him like a fucking Ronaldo or smthng. Chill out...he had a crapy year for us and for his NT. Nothing to loose here.

 

[I4E]

Banega might be a good player at Sevilla and in Spain, but he just didn't work in Italy.

Mate, INTER doesn't work out in Italy.

If Valero comes and doesn't work out ? What's the excuse gonna be for him ? I'm sick of hearing 'hasn't adjusted to Italy' or 'needs time to get used to Italy' excuses every time a player has underperformed for us over the last 4-5 years. You can bring Messi to inter with this squad and we'll make him look like a schmuck ! But no, the excuse will be Messi 'didn't adjust to Italy'

 

[Ronaldo]

20 million for Banega and Jovetic is a shit deal. Jovetic alone is wirth 12-14 million and Banega is worth at least 15 million. I know Banega's been inconsistent but still managed to score 6 goals and assist 8. In his first season in Italy, changing 4 coaches, and having no preseason, that's still impressive.

His numbers are better than Valero, who is 4 years older and has been in Serie A for a few years now. But, no; grass is always greener on the other side; we are going to sell Banega for lower than Fiorentina's asking price for Valero

Banega's had just one assist less than Valero and 5 more goals. I'm sure with a proper coach and a proper preseason he can get his numbers to double those amounts.

 

[InterFCAustin]

Mate, INTER doesn't work out in Italy.

If Valero comes and doesn't work out ? What's the excuse gonna be for him ? I'm sick of hearing 'hasn't adjusted to Italy' or 'needs time to get used to Italy' excuses every time a player has underperformed for us over the last 4-5 years. You can bring Messi to inter with this squad and we'll make him look like a schmuck ! But no, the excuse will be Messi 'didn't adjust to Italy'

Right. The excuse "it's only his first year", is so bogus and over used. Good players find ways to make it work. Banega didn't. He might have who knows...but he's 29 yes old, and I'm not gonna sit around waiting for Banega to turn it up, while I'm in a pickle jar to find 30mil in a week, you know what I mean. We got him for free, didn't work out, so yeah...I'll take whatever I can from whoever I can to come out of this shitty stupid FFP.
As far as Borja Valero is concerned, he has a track record at Serie A we can judge him from. He's been pretty good. He's not as old as people here make him...I think Spalleti gonna use him same way as he used De Rossi at Roma. And De Rossi is older then Valero, and he still had good season at Roma this past year. Valero has at least two more good years left in him. He can also teach some of our young players how to be a smart player and a good professional. He can be a leader to our young midfielders and teach them the ropes.