Achraf Hakimi

[Dave54]

thats not a problem for me, you, or anyone else here. That's with the police and courts in Paris.

Bear in mind he's already been charged for it, so it seems like there's at least some grounds of reasonable suspicion. Of course, the only thing that matters is whether it goes to prosecution and is found guilty or innocent.

Right. But you call him potential rapist. Let the courts decide before we label him that.

 

[.h.]

Right. But you call him potential rapist. Let the courts decide before we label him that.

He *IS* a potential rapist as it currently stands. The courts will decide if he was an actual rapist or not. Like I said, this is a guy who has actually been accused of rape, and now charged with it as well. If that isnt a potential rapist, I dont know what is.

 

[Dave54]

I don't understand, why is it pathetic?
Actually why isn't it pathetic for the wife to sue for half of his wealth?
Meh.
Also reading some comments here that this wouldn't fly in the US. I have no idea about the laws there. Anyone care to explain?
Coming back to this thread because dude has gone viral on social media for this

In US, unless there is a prenup in place(that may not fly in a few states), when couple divorce, wife will get half and child support as well..

 

[Dave54]

He *IS* a potential rapist as it currently stands. The courts will decide if he was an actual rapist or not. Like I said, this is a guy who has actually been accused of rape, and now charged with it as well. If that isnt a potential rapist, I dont know what is.

I don't know about in France, but in US, police will charge after DA reviews the case and the evidence will be submitted to judge at preliminary hearings. Sure , you can use the word potential rapist. I would not.

 

[.h.]

I don't know about in France, but in US, police will charge after DA reviews the case and the evidence will be submitted to judge at preliminary hearings. Sure , you can use the word potential rapist. I would not.

When would you call someone a potential rapist, in that case?

 

[Dave54]

I don't. He has a name and last name.

 

[.h.]

I don't. He has a name and last name.

Okay, sorry

the potential rapist, Achraf Hakimi

and

the actual rapist, Dani Alves


Also, the point where I called him "potential rapist" is that its disgusting to see people defending a potential rapist. The phrase potential rapist was hyper-relevant to the context of the comment.

 

[Armes]

It wouldnt fly because he's the ultimate beneficiary of the money anyway - income is generated by the person who works for it, the fact that its paid into someone else's bank account is irrelevant. It'd be pretty easy, imho, for her lawyers to argue that its his money. Cant comment on French laws, though.

It isnt pathetic for the wife to sue for half because that's the standard basis of marriage - shared ownership of everything, on separation everyone gets half. Bear in mind this situation, too, she had a career, its not like she's just a nothing model, and she's given birth to two? of their children.

Okay that makes sense. I was perplexed by the idea of putting 80% of your money on your mother is pathetic... So because this is a legal thing and the law in France prevents her from getting half because he has nothing - suppose he gave it all to charity instead of his mother for arguments sake - wouldn't he be able to sue for half her money since she probably made more than him lol? I'm in Canada, I just don't know US law because lots of states. What would separate a mother from charity in your opinion? If this went to trial in the states it would be hilarious to watch

 

[forzainter257]

It's disgusting to see people calling a man rapist without proofs

 

[Dave54]

Anyways.

 

[.h.]

Okay that makes sense. I was perplexed by the idea of putting 80% of your money on your mother is pathetic... So because this is a legal thing and the law in France prevents her from getting half because he has nothing - suppose he gave it all to charity instead of his mother for arguments sake - wouldn't he be able to sue for half her money since she probably made more than him lol? I'm in Canada, I just don't know US law because lots of states. What would separate a mother from charity in your opinion? If this went to trial in the states it would be hilarious to watch

Honestly, I dont know about the specifics of French law and this gets to be more about French law than anything, really.


Just as a quick google

Getting a divorce in France

Find out about the different procedures involved if you need to apply for a divorce in France, including the necessary steps and visa issues.

www.expatica.com

Spousal maintenance​

One spouse often has to pay maintenance (prestation compensatoire) to make up for the difference in living standards following the divorce. They may have to pay it as a lump sum or an annuity – the spouses or family court can determine the amount. This applies in both amicable and contentious divorces. The total allowance reflects factors including:

• the duration of the marriage
• the age and health of the spouses
• their professional qualifications and status
• each spouse’s income
• the consequences of the professional choices made by one spouse during their life together
• estimated or foreseeable assets of the spouses, both in capital and in income
• existing and foreseeable rights (e.g., upcoming retirement) and pensions

Another form of alimony known as pension alimentaire may also come into play. A judge can order this payment when one spouse does not have sufficient means to feed, clothe and house themselves and their children. This form of allowance is necessarily a monthly contribution.


I dont believe Hakimi's income (whether it goes to him, or his mother) makes any difference on that - he'll still have to compensate for the quality of lifestyle. Similar laws in the UK, for what its worth.



RE his income, like I said, beneficial ownership is the thing - the money is ultimately being spent on stuff for him, via his mother, the difference between that and charity is that a charity wouldnt be spending the money on him.


The social media posts atm do seem to suggest that he's gettnig half of her wealth, but I havent seen that substantiated anywhere other than social media, and when it comes to spousal maintenance esp with the kids, that's probably gonna be the bit that hurts. Plus, itll be easy for the lawyers to appeal re benenfical ownership of the salary and stuff

 

[.h.]

It's disgusting to see people calling a man rapist without proofs

I'll stress the point potential, yet again. He's been accused, and charged. We'll see where it goes from there.

 

[forzainter257]

I'll stress the point potential, yet again. He's been accused, and charged. We'll see where it goes from there.

If I go to the police and say you stole my money even though you didn't, are you a potential thief?

 

[.h.]

If I go to the police and say you stole my money even though you didn't, are you a potential thief?

If you went to the police, made the accusation, and THEN THEY CHARGED ME, then yes, I am a potential thief?

If the police dropped the charges because there was no evidence, then no


You really dont get it right? He's been charged for it. His situation is basically no different to Mason Greenwood as far as I can tell, and he was correctly ostracised by the footballing community. The double standard between Greenwood and Hakimi, imho, is shocking.

Anyway, I think thats enough on this topic. The incels can defend Hakimi as some gigachad if they want, but its fucking disgusting, however there's no point going on about it.

 

[forzainter257]

If you went to the police, made the accusation, and THEN THEY CHARGED ME, then yes, I am a potential thief?

If the police dropped the charges because there was no evidence, then no


You really dont get it right? He's been charged for it. His situation is basically no different to Mason Greenwood as far as I can tell, and he was correctly ostracised by the footballing community. The double standard between Greenwood and Hakimi, imho, is shocking.

Anyway, I think thats enough on this topic. The incels can defend Hakimi as some gigachad if they want, but its fucking disgusting, however there's no point going on about it.

I don't follow other footballers not related to Inter. I had to take a moment and try to recall who Mason Greenwood is, I am that far from the football world outside of serie A.

I am not a lawyer, so I admit I don't really know the difference between "being charged and not being charged". It has been reported that the lady refused to take any examination. Then how are you going to prove whether there was an act of rape?

 

[.h.]

I don't follow other footballers not related to Inter. I had to take a moment and try to recall who Mason Greenwood is, I am that far from the football world outside of serie A. I am not a lawyer, so I admit I don't really know the difference between "being charged and not being charged". It has been reported that the lady refused to take any examination. Then how are you going to prove whether there was an act of rape?

As I said, that's not the problem of anyone here, and the only thing we know is that Paris police think there is enough to charge him already. The next stage would be to arrest and go to a formal court case

Actually, as a side note, I think that's the difference between Greenwood and Hakimi - Greenwood was arrested, Hakimi hasnt yet been

 

[Fitzy]

Spousal Maintenance in 2023

 

[Adriano@10]

I don't understand, why is it pathetic?
Actually why isn't it pathetic for the wife to sue for half of his wealth?
Meh.
Also reading some comments here that this wouldn't fly in the US. I have no idea about the laws there. Anyone care to explain?
Coming back to this thread because dude has gone viral on social media for this

It s pathetic cause a grown ass man instead of going to his then GF and telling her here sign this prenump or we wont get married, he decides that it would be smarter to give all his money and all his assets to his mom so that he does not have to give money to his wife..... Fucker could have had one hard discussion with his GF instead he tried some weird tricks which most likely will still lead to him paying up as like people pointed out i dont think this flies even in france.
If this aint pathetic i dont know what is...

I mean could she settle for less yes but when entering into a lawsuit you usually start with the high number, also like H. pointed out she had a career and giving birth to two children probably fucks up a model career.......
Also keep in mind that we are all human beings and emotions play a big part in shit like this, now if you think your spouse cheated on you not only that but he cheated on you by (trying to)rape somebody. Your probably gonna be slightly vindictive...


Bottom line i just dont see how people applaud a multi milionaire hiding money with his moma and calling it a mans/genius move when it is extremely weak and pathetic.

Edit: did not realize i was answering a rather old post...

 

[Armes]

It s pathetic cause a grown ass man instead of going to his then GF and telling her here sign this prenump or we wont get married, he decides that it would be smarter to give all his money and all his assets to his mom so that he does not have to give money to his wife..... Fucker could have had one hard discussion with his GF instead he tried some weird tricks which most likely will still lead to him paying up as like people pointed out i dont think this flies even in france.
If this aint pathetic i dont know what is...

I mean could she settle for less yes but when entering into a lawsuit you usually start with the high number, also like H. pointed out she had a career and giving birth to two children probably fucks up a model career.......
Also keep in mind that we are all human beings and emotions play a big part in shit like this, now if you think your spouse cheated on you not only that but he cheated on you by (trying to)rape somebody. Your probably gonna be slightly vindictive...


Bottom line i just dont see how people applaud a multi milionaire hiding money with his moma and calling it a mans/genius move when it is extremely weak and pathetic.

Edit: did not realize i was answering a rather old post...

I'm not so sure it's "extremely" weak and pathetic man. It's his mother. Again, what if he was giving that money to charity, would that make him weak and pathetic too? Like you said we're all human beings and he's got emotions too so in the case he's being wrongly accused of rape (and we know how that's being milked by this generation) and the wife goes alright that's it I'm walking away and taking half of what you have and you're gonna pay for the kids as well just cuz this is how the marriage system operates right now. Suppose he gets emotional too and goes nope fuck that you can leave if that's how you are but this money rather go to charity or my own mother. On one end you're faced with probably a fake rape accusation that can destroy your career too and on the other you've got a wife walking away with half your shit (I'm not even saying what if she was supportive of him). So the man took control of the situation. That's not pathetic. The marriage system itself is pathetic. For all we know the wife could have set this whole shit up lol. We've heard crazier shit.
Marilyn Manson pretty much got canceled by allegations of rape until he counter sued with some evidence of being setup for the money. Johnny Depp and Amber Heard... We all know how that went. Bill Gates haha, Dalia Dippolito (look her up on JCS) the list is infinite. It's always the fucking man on the receiving end. Crucified until proven innocent and stripped of their wealth for which they worked by their "better halves" because that's how we manage "spousal support" lol.
I'll tell you exactly why men are applauding this dude going viral on social media: Men have been fucked over for too long and society's expectations of us is to lower our heads, take a deep breath, keep it in and go on even if you're innocent. Hakimi just took control. I wanna see his wife sue him amber heard style for this specific reason of putting his money on his mother's name and then promise to donate all the half she'll get from him to some charity like the former promised to do.
Too much talk, none of my business, just curious on how how flawed some things are so couldn't resist replying again

 

[wera]

He just doesn't have to share half of his wealth to do so, period.

I do wonder if people know that Hakimi's wife was rich before Hakimi was at Borussia Dortmund? I think it's justified if somebody cheated or even worse, raped somebody, that the other gets compensated for destroying the relationship and nulling all the time that was invested (altho these two did separate just a bit before the accusations came out).