Andrea Stramaccioni

Should Strama be sacked?


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and indeed, something i have repeatedly boiled us down to:

ferguson had experience before he took over at united. Conte before Juve. Allegri before Milan. AVB before Chelsea/Tottenham. Guardiola before Barca A.

Our case isnt really comparable to many others. We've hired someone who was coaching amateur football only a few years ago...

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Couldn't agree more. Also, people here assume that Strama is a finished product - he is a novice on his first senior coaching job at any level, and when we started down this path last year, it was assumed that he will make a lot of mistakes. Either we show patience, or we forget about Year Zero or Youth revolution. If Kovacic shows promise in 10 games, and then has 6 months of average to poor form, would you sack him too? Strama is the coaching equivalent of Kovacic.

Moreover, sacking a coach midseason is one of the most idiotic things a club can do... Moratti does it often and that's his main failing... and from what I can read on this forum, most fans are like Moratti in this regard. Have we learnt NOTHING from the past?


tbh, tell that to QPR, sacking Mark Hughes will be one of the best things they've ever done. Or look at us sacking Benitez and bringing in Leonardo... that worked a fucking charm tbh.
 

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I'm just gonna say this. I liked Strama. I really did. He was talking about a youth project, and all that, and I was like, alright, let's take our time, we can do this, and maybe be even third/second(first?) in the end.

And then came the Sneijder remark. We all knew he was lying about Sneijder not fitting in his system and stupid shit like that.

I don't like being lied to.
 

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Strama will guide us through this, UCL next year baby :eek:blivious:
 

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thats the thing

i have no problem with a youth project. bring around some serious changes, make the starting line up a lot younger - if that was the case, I would accept the situation we are in now. if people like Benassi, Livaja, Kovacic, were getting lots of experience week in week out I'd think its fantastic.

Instead, our stated aim - from Moratti - is to be challenging for the scudetto. At the bare minimum, we expect the champions league. If thats what we wanted, then you cant afford to hire a completely naive and inexperienced coach.

Theres no coherent plan at Inter - not just at manager level, but above.

I think sacking Strama would fix some problems, no doubt, but it wont fix all of them. However, at least getting this team back onto the correct path, playing better football, would be a vital start
 

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I don't understand why some of u get focused at the result.

No one is angry because we lost to siena. No one is angry because we are not winning title or getting an easy Cl qualification.
We are angry about the way we play.
We are angry because no matter who the opponent is, or whether we are in san siro or away from home we get outplayed.
We are angry because after 3 years we still go from a streak of wins to a streak of loses or on the the other way around.
We are angry because in a season where we expected only building the foundations for the future , we are understanding that this foundations are those of a 3-5-2 system , a system that we don't like and that has produced only one constant thing .... troll results.

PS. I can remove all the "We are" with "I am" if needed but i truly believe that this is why people are pissed now.
 

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I don't understand why some of u get focused at the result.

No one is angry because we lost to siena. No one is angry because we are not winning title or getting an easy Cl qualification.
We are angry about the way we play.
We are angry because no matter who the opponent is, or whether we are in san siro or away from home we get outplayed.
We are angry because after 3 years we still go from a streak of wins to a streak of loses or on the the other way around.
We are angry because in a season where we expected only building the foundations for the future , we are understanding that this foundations are those of a 3-5-2 system , a system that we don't like and that has produced only one constant thing .... troll results.

PS. I can remove all the "We are" with "I am" if needed but i truly believe that this is why people are pissed now.

so much this, tbh.
 

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In all honesty, and I believe a lot of people here agree with me on this regard, but I'm torn apart on the subject of Stramaccioni.

I know he isn't the final product, and that he requires a lot of time to learn from his mistakes and from his opponents. Issues like the locker room relations, and the functional system on the pitch, the personnel, the decision to bench and alter the role of elders on the squad, subs and timing, on the pitch motivation... etc.

However, while we know of his shortcomings, we have been longing for a form of stability in the first team. A stability that now is damaged by a lot of things that need to be cleared with the management and for starters; reassessing the season's goal. Do we focus of finding an identity on the pitch or worry about the Champions League with the finances aside?
 

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I don't understand why some of u get focused at the result.

No one is angry because we lost to siena. No one is angry because we are not winning title or getting an easy Cl qualification.
We are angry about the way we play.
We are angry because no matter who the opponent is, or whether we are in san siro or away from home we get outplayed.
We are angry because after 3 years we still go from a streak of wins to a streak of loses or on the the other way around.
We are angry because in a season where we expected only building the foundations for the future , we are understanding that this foundations are those of a 3-5-2 system , a system that we don't like and that has produced only one constant thing .... troll results.

PS. I can remove all the "We are" with "I am" if needed but i truly believe that this is why people are pissed now.

Junior so fucking true, i did say early that Stramma is Coward and we are paying the prize, and it sucks and you explained it well
 

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In all honesty, and I believe a lot of people here agree with me on this regard, but I'm torn apart on the subject of Stramaccioni.

I know he isn't the final product, and that he requires a lot of time to learn from his mistakes and from his opponents. Issues like the locker room relations, and the functional system on the pitch, the personnel, the decision to bench and alter the role of elders on the squad, subs and timing, on the pitch motivation... etc.

However, while we know of his shortcomings, we have been longing for a form of stability in the first team. A stability that now is damaged by a lot of things that need to be cleared with the management and for starters; reassessing the season's goal. Do we focus of finding an identity on the pitch or worry about the Champions League with the finances aside?

agreed. this is the conflict i feel as well, i was 100% behind him until the last week or so... the problem is, there are some really BASIC mistakes (from where I'm sat, at least)
 

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In all honesty, and I believe a lot of people here agree with me on this regard, but I'm torn apart on the subject of Stramaccioni.

I know he isn't the final product, and that he requires a lot of time to learn from his mistakes and from his opponents. Issues like the locker room relations, and the functional system on the pitch, the personnel, the decision to bench and alter the role of elders on the squad, subs and timing, on the pitch motivation... etc.

However, while we know of his shortcomings, we have been longing for a form of stability in the first team. A stability that now is damaged by a lot of things that need to be cleared with the management and for starters; reassessing the season's goal. Do we focus of finding an identity on the pitch or worry about the Champions League with the finances aside?

Thats not the problem no matter what kind of coach we have we shouldnt have lost so many points to a team that are fighting for relegation. The problem is we get outclassed even from a team such as Siena, that have lost 5 games out of 6. and losing 3-1 to them cant be accepted, even without a coach we should win this kind of games with the players we have
 

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They say that Strama wanted to resign Chivu. This I can somehow accept. But wanting to sign Mudingay and Rocchi that's completely enough for me to give boot to Strama. Actually Carizzo goes into the same category. Either Strama is an idiot or he is just Moratti's puppet. Actually we need neither of those as our coach.

On the other hand I would prefer that it was Strama who wanted those because Moratti and Branca will stay no matter what.
 

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when strama was hired everyone was talking about whether or not moratti would have the patience to let a young and inexperienced coach develop his coaching skills at this club. But after getting some new players that got our hopes up, everybody starts calling for his head after a single loss :palm:

did everybody forget what inter's goal is for this season? 6 months ago I considered qualifying for the CL a big step forward for the club, and as it stands we are only 1 game away from 3rd place, and just because moratti likes to troll reporters doesn't mean he would consider it a failure if we finish 3rd.

criticize strama all you want, inter have been absolutely horrendous ever since we beat juve, but this bullshit about sacking him needs to stop. Because for all the horrible football we've seen in the past 2 months strama showed us TWICE that he can get results by completely changing the team's tactics, and I'd bet on him doing it again rather than sack him and get a new coach who doesn't know anything about the squad and who will ask for a completely new team in the summer

I don't expect winning the Scudetto this season. I don't even expect making it on the 3rd place (although it should be possible with our squad). Hell, I would have no problem with losing against Jubentus, Milan or Napoli although it would be a pain in the butt.

What I expect is winning one of two games against Siena. I expect winning at home against sides like Cagliari or Torino. And yes, sometimes you can loose games like this but then I expect seeing a team that run or play like their lifes depend on that game.

And I expect a concept. Strama is our coach since more than 10 months now and it doesn't really look like he has a plan. I can't see what system we are playing (ok, I don't wanna see), I can't understand what lineups he made, I can't stand what subs he brings.

And I expect a progress. A little progress and I would be happy. We had a bad start into the season and then our strange winning streak under Strama, ok. But after 10 months it looks for me like we are playing worse and worse from week to week and that Strama is losing control from week to week.
 

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Forza Strama, fuck the rest.
 

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Learn from his mistakes? He doesn't seem to be learning anything. If you keep doing something over and over. Playing the 8-1-1 over and over and getting the same result, that is a sign of clinical insanity. Show him the door NOW! Immediately don't wait till the end of the season, don't wait till even the weekend do it NOW!

He should not even be here. I would have sacked him tow months ago! I called this shit and so did N4L and no one saw it coming until there was a finger in their ass.
 

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When our last coaches were Ranieri, Gasperini and Leonardo it was completely understandable that people were hopeful about Strama who had just won the youth CL(or what ever it is called).

If coach like Lippi who had success elsewhere flop at Inter then I don't think you can be very surprised that Strama couldn't bring this Inter in to the CL level.

There are very few world class coaches and we couldn't even afford their salaries at the moment. Until that doesn't change you need to get used to coaches that are more or less average.
 

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When our last coaches were Ranieri, Gasperini and Leonardo it was completely understandable that people were hopeful about Strama who had just won the youth CL(or what ever it is called).

I was hopeful too. Then I saw the same tired, predictable cycle of mediocrity. I don't care if Strama cut his own balls off or Management did it, whatever the case is, he LOST them. This is not the same man that came in with bravado and seemed he wanted to take the team into any direction other than down.
 

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What formations did he use with the youth team, can someone tell me?

What is it with this unconditional love for 3-5-2 and only that, i will never know!

I really supported the bejesus out of him, defended him and all. But even i have certain limits.
 

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Haha Zeman. Our problem being defensive, Zeman would be probably the best man to fix it.

Our problem have been the attack. We cannot even score against the relegation canditates.

But with Zeman the problem would be the defence like with all his teams.
 

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I don't understand why some of u get focused at the result.

No one is angry because we lost to siena. No one is angry because we are not winning title or getting an easy Cl qualification.
We are angry about the way we play.
We are angry because no matter who the opponent is, or whether we are in san siro or away from home we get outplayed.
We are angry because after 3 years we still go from a streak of wins to a streak of loses or on the the other way around.
We are angry because in a season where we expected only building the foundations for the future , we are understanding that this foundations are those of a 3-5-2 system , a system that we don't like and that has produced only one constant thing .... troll results.

PS. I can remove all the "We are" with "I am" if needed but i truly believe that this is why people are pissed now.

You think we were outplayed today? We were dominating Siena for almost entire match, and goals came from one quick counter when wingback Schelotto (who isn't wingback in fact) didn't come back to defence, then Sestu made a great shoot which he will never repeat again, and then retarded Romanian did his usual mistake.

I'm not defending Strama, just saying that in terms of style, and possesion (which was our big problem this season) we looked much better today, especially thanks to Kuzmanovic and Kovacic (in the second half).
 

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The guy in a loser mentality plays the same formation and now he is lost in the brains no matter what he trys now he has no final tactic, only way we going is serie b, which is more he's style suits him perfect there.

it's a sorry day to see my inter losing to teams like siena.
 
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