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Lol u wrote that like fast players aren't a menace in other leagues as well

Yes, every team would kill for Biabiany and Ibarbo.

Also, if you're also referring to the Roma-Chelsea incident, that'd be Dzeko. The Usain Bolt of 2m tall strikers.
 

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Let me correct that

Good fast players :)

It is clear Salah enjoys playing in Klopp's system. Right now he is the best forward that was bought this season, Neymar close second.
 

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Salah had a similar role and his team attacked in a similar way in the last two seasons at Roma. Not entirely the same obviously, but the flow is similar and the only difference is the focal point of offense. He scored 29 goals in two full seasons. He scored 28 goals in less than one in the EPL, in a new environment and team and both these teams are quarter finalists of the Champions League as of today. I think it's safe to assume that the league's standards he is now in is quite lower.
 

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:lol: Jose gone full retard now.

Wanted him to succeed at ManUtd so badly as he riles up so many opposition fans and he is genuinely good guy but he is losing it.

Either he goes this summer or there will be big changes and he will give same excuses again next season.
 

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Let me correct that

Good fast players :)

It is clear Salah enjoys playing in Klopp's system. Right now he is the best forward that was bought this season, Neymar close second.

Meh, it's only because he plays in PL. Imagine him playing against such a compact and tight defences, just watch Milan vs Chievo for the defensive master class.
 

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We don't have to imagine him. We saw him against all of them at a time you were calling him an EPL flop and how it was proof that EPL > Serie A.
 

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:lol: Jose gone full retard now.

Wanted him to succeed at ManUtd so badly as he riles up so many opposition fans and he is genuinely good guy but he is losing it.

Either he goes this summer or there will be big changes and he will give same excuses again next season.

He's making some good points in fairness. Hes leading yoy to your highest league finish in what, 4/5 years? Plus, your wingbacks are valencia, shaw, young and darmien. Thats awful but thats what he inherited from previous managers. Only one good CB as well in Bailly.
 

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He's making some good points in fairness. Hes leading yoy to your highest league finish in what, 4/5 years? Plus, your wingbacks are valencia, shaw, young and darmien. Thats awful but thats what he inherited from previous managers. Only one good CB as well in Bailly.

We have best or second best defensive record in last 3 years. How can Bailly be our only good CB? Under Van Gaal Smalling and Blind played as CBs and they both did well.

We have superb young talent in Tuanzebe and Jose went on to spend 35 Million on Lindelof. He spent close to half a billion and he didn't ever talk about wanting to sign fullbacks.

Also leading us to highest league finish is like someone claiming they are the best looking guy in the burnt ward. We had Moyes and a past it Van Gaal (Who was terrified after 5-3 loss against Leicester) , it was bare minimum that was expected after spending so much money and being second best paid manager in the league and possible Europe.

Jose said he trained team to play fast transition in the last 2 days and he can't understand how team was not able to do it. Not even sure if he was serious or just trolling, it should be repetition for weeks to feel home playing that way. You can't train your team to be pragmatic, defensive for 2 years and train them to play different football in 2 days and expect to see better results.

There are lot of things wrong with ManUtd now and root cause of most is Jose. Sign Pogba who was amazing playing as part of midfield 3, asked him to play in double pivot in a defensive system where he should track runners like a proper DM does.

Martial and Rashford shared left wing position and played very good season, signed Sanchez and played him as LW where he was average and upset the balance completely. He could have played him as RW or even as SS.

Could have signed LB as he doesn't trust Shaw but he didn't. When Shaw got run of games he did well and then was benched as soon as Young returned and humiliated him once again.

He takes absolutely 0 responsibility for any performance and blames everyone except him. He can talk all he wants about the past but that doesn't change that he spent so much money and should be doing lot better. If he was asked to play the team Van Gaal left behind with no money to spend then Jose would have had a point, not when he spent so much money and signed 6-8 players.

What pisses most ManUtd fans is not even the results (which are good in league btw) is team's lack of effort and work rate. Jose's team plays very passive game. They drop deep and win the ball rather than press from front, win the ball back and counter. Only time team did was against Arsenal and in first 10 mins attackers forced 2 mistakes which ended up in goal. ManUtd rank 20th in distance covered. When Conte, Poch, Klopp all became coaches, all the talk was about players conditioning and how much they are making the players to work.
 

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We have best or second best defensive record in last 3 years. How can Bailly be our only good CB?

:lol:
This is how people who have never seen football tactics in action talk.
 

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in my opinion, there is one thing missing in mourinho's speech: ok, legacy and all, but what's the goal then? you should at least set a goal for the future, which isn't of course just a place within the top four in the table.

he pulled a sarri there: he just said that the team is doing better than it should, or at least not worse than it is supposed to do, given the legacy. it's too convenient like this, you should at least hint at goals for the future because, if you talk about legacy, than the legacy of the club also gives it a very high annual income.

besides in principle, you shouldn't talk about legacy when the opponent wasn't a better team than yours. you screwed a match and that can happen, but what has legacy to do with this?

i love josè, but those are the facts, at least in my view.
 

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in my opinion, there is one thing missing in mourinho's speech: ok, legacy at all, but what's the goal then? you should at least set a goal for the future, which isn't of course just a place within the top four in the table.

he pulled a sarri there: he just said that the team is doing better than it should, or at least not worse than it is supposed to do, given the legacy. it's too convenient like this, you should at least hint at goals for the future because, if you talk about legacy, than the legacy of the club also gives it a very high annual income.

besides in principle, you shouldn't talk about legacy when the opponent wasn't a better team than yours. you screwed a match and that can happen, but what has legacy to do with this?

i love josè, but those are the facts, at least in my view.

If anything, he tried to pull a Spalletti. Saying to his players that they're not good enough to meet the fans' standards and that he as a coach has succeeded in taking them a level forward. Mourinho always protects his players. There's a reason why he's not protecting this sorry bunch. He also commented on players the club sold or got rid off, saying that no one even knows where they are now and stuff like that. Same would apply with over 50% of his current players.
 

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:lol: rich coming from you.

Yes, as if it matters who says things like that to the person who thinks conceding less goals is due to having more than 1 good players in defence.... I probably said this before, but at first you were fun to poke at but now you're just irritating because you keep ignoring the point. Go annoy some Marketing United fans.
 

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in my opinion, there is one thing missing in mourinho's speech: ok, legacy and all, but what's the goal then? you should at least set a goal for the future, which isn't of course just a place within the top four in the table.

he pulled a sarri there: he just said that the team is doing better than it should, or at least not worse than it is supposed to do, given the legacy. it's too convenient like this, you should at least hint at goals for the future because, if you talk about legacy, than the legacy of the club also gives it a very high annual income.

besides in principle, you shouldn't talk about legacy when the opponent wasn't a better team than yours. you screwed a match and that can happen, but what has legacy to do with this?

i love josè, but those are the facts, at least in my view.

When he first joined, he talked about title challenge from the word go and then it went downhill very quickly. He did well in cups and won 2 of them.

This season he said this.
"In many ways, it is my team. In terms of the squad, this is my second transfer window. I was thinking, three transfer windows, I need that. But after two windows I have a good group and a football club much better equipped.

"We are much better organised in the areas that support the first-team squad. We are much better organised at every level. So we will go for it this season. We are going to try to win the title."

now changed to how we are not good enough.

At least there are fans who lap it up, so it's all good.
 

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If anything, he tried to pull a Spalletti. Saying to his players that they're not good enough to meet the fans' standards and that he as a coach has succeeded in taking them a level forward. Mourinho always protects his players. There's a reason why he's not protecting this sorry bunch. He also commented on players the club sold or got rid off, saying that no one even knows where they are now and stuff like that. Same would apply with over 50% of his current players.

i didn't like those words, but spalletti also says that he has to prove he is worth of Inter, and he, along with everyone else, doesn't try to hide that the goal of the season is fourth place. and if we don't succeed, i don't think spalletti is going to say that it's ok because we missed it by 1 or 2 points, so we did better than the previous seasons.

i think that we and porto experienced the best of mourinho and not just because of champions league, but rather the opposite: he succeeded also because those were the best teams for him, the most suited to him, people and players loved him and approved everything he did.
 

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Yes, as if it matters who says things like that to the person who thinks conceding less goals is due to having more than 1 good players in defence.... I probably said this before, but at first you were fun to poke at but now you're just irritating because you keep ignoring the point. Go annoy some Marketing United fans.

:lol:

Bailly was not even part ManUtd defence when we had second best defense in the league. Surprising you can even type so deep from Jose's arse.

Bold part :lol: you are completely clueless and it's fun to see your desperate attempts. Carry on though, laughter is good especially when we have to watch Jose's masterclass every week.

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Mourinho always protects his players. There's a reason why he's not protecting this sorry bunch. .

:lol: Wonder what Madrid and Chelsea players think of this.

Jose protects his players, manager who is famous for throwing players under the bus. Like I said, you make even Duncan Castles look sane and that's some record.
 

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:lol:

Bailly was not even part ManUtd defence when we had second best defense in the league. Surprising you can even type so deep from Jose's arse.

Bold part :lol: you are completely clueless and it's fun to see your desperate attempts. Carry on though, laughter is good especially when we have to watch Jose's masterclass every week.

You mentioned Bailly, you mentioned defensive records and you keep replying to your own arguments by refuting them because you've no idea of what you're saying. All that was said is that as an individual, only Eric Bailly is good enough for a club like Man Utd. You claim Mourinho is not doing a good job, yet you also say that the team has a solid defensive record. What don't you get?

Stupidity is not curable so I'll stop here because I don't even carry placebos for you. Ah, there's also arrogance added to that stupidity. That makes a dangerous combination.
Curious to see which players Mourinho has thrown under the bus and for what reason...
 

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You mentioned Bailly, you mentioned defensive records and you keep replying to your own arguments by refuting them because you've no idea of what you're saying. All that was said is that as an individual, only Eric Bailly is good enough for a club like Man Utd. You claim Mourinho is not doing a good job, yet you also say that the team has a solid defensive record. What don't you get?
Stupidity is not curable so I'll stop here because I don't even carry placebos for you.

:lol: Crawl out of Jose's arse and see some light. It helps.

We have best or second best defensive record in last 3 years.

Bailly was part of ManUtd team from last season. We had best defensive record once and 4th best defensive record before Bailly joined.

Jose is from last season. We have good defensive record from last 3 years. It's not hard, maybe if you are not so stupid it would have been easy to understand.
 

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Lol, I give up. You either have no idea of how to say something that makes sense or have not understood that what you're saying is contradictory Talk to your buddies here, maybe you can communicate on the same basement level. ZOMG how can Bailly be the only good player, the defense is so much better ZOMG
 
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