English Premier League 2018/2019

[monster09]

Anti Perisic, no club signs every player wanted by manager. It's not possible. It's not even possible at City and they have fucking Pep breaking every records for fun.

I'm not going to educate you on Duncan castles, just shows how you know nothing about him, Jose, ManUtd.


Jose didn't say he wanted them? Maybe he made prank call to bailly, fed bs to his mouth piece Duncan Castles on his transfer targets.

We signed 7 players in 2 summers before this. Bailly confirmed he got call from Jose, Zlatan and Pogba anyways nothing is needed here. Lindelof was reported as Jose's main CB target by his mouth piece 6 months before he joined, Lukaku and Matic both said they joined because of Jose, directly or indirectly or how Jose wanted Matic and Lukaku so badly. That's all the signings ManUtd in last 2 seasons except Mkhitaryan who was swapped with Sanchez.

Most of the players weren't his proprities Repeating the same shit again and again.

Jose's mouth piece even reported Fred 6 months before he was signed. No one even said 2 person transfer team. Jose gives his list of players, Woodward and his team negotiates and signs the players. Obvious why Duncan castles posted that article as we haven't signed all the players wanted, and signed only 2.

Freelance journalist Duncan Castles has become renowned in social media circles for his – how should we put this – ‘support’ of Jose Mourinho. Many have accused him of being a mouthpiece for the Manchester United manager and his agent Jorge Mendes, while others have used far stronger terms.

https://www.football365.com/news/asking-duncan-castles-about-being-mourinhos-pr

It's not even a news, it's obvious for every PL fan.

 

[brehme1989]

So according to you, Man Utd is about to sign, within the next 2 days:

Gareth Bale https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport...manchester-united-want-gareth-bale-12638877?3
Marko Arnautovic (or maybe not...) http://www.arabnews.com/node/1309191/sport ( https://www.football365.com/news/man-united-move-on-from-50m-target-after-fellaini-u-turn just lol)
Alex Sandro (or maybe not) http://thepeoplesperson.com/2018/07...ted-have-agreed-terms-for-alex-sandro-199718/ + https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/f...ransfer-news-Alex-Sandro-Juventus-deal-latest


And that Man Utd will not (or should not?) sign Harry Maguire: https://www.givemesport.com/1363183...-about-man-utds-65m-interest-in-harry-maguire
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/foo...ho-Harry-Maguire-Toby-Alderweireld-Yerry-Mina

it looks like it’s going to be a compromise deal in that the club are looking at alternative centre-backs and have proposed names from the scouting department such as Harry Maguire at Leicester who clearly doesn’t fit that categorisation of an experienced leader centre-back who can obviously improve the defence and take them on to another level.”

OMG, MAN UNITED IS INNOVATING!!!! They're not asking for the manager who he wants!!! They're doing shit on their own now!!!

That's all from Duncan Castles btw

And here I thought that Mourinho had a big transfer budget that he could spend and that the club (or just Woodward?) did not say that "player X is too expensive for us". Why is player X too expensive and why don't they just spend the extra 5-10-15m that is demanded, when their competition is doing so?

Why is your pal Duncan Castles saying that everyone Mourinho wants is deemed "too expensive"? https://www.thesportreview.com/2018/07/man-united-transfer-news-perisic-willian/

 

[monster09]

no club signs every player wanted by manager. It's not possible. It's not even possible at City and they have fucking Pep breaking every records for fun.

manager is always the boss who decides which players should be signed, if possible they will be signed or else will sign next target.

Fucking hell, so much nonsense. As if only one player is targeted for each position. For even 1 position, Jose gave list of 5 names and he himself confirmed it.

Same shit, rinse and repeat.

Funny how "Jose didn't even want more than half of the players signed" was casually pushed aside and more nonsense is posted.

No one even said every player Jose wants will be signed. Every player signed will be Jose's signing and from his list. Funny how Maguire news died so early and did rounds for 2-3 days. It was always Toby who was the first choice target.

Why is player X too expensive and why don't they just spend the extra 5-10-15m that is demanded, when their competition is doing so?

club that rely on generated revenue vs club that is backed by oil money. Or the club that spent shit loads of money vs the club that sold shit loads of players and reinvesting the same money. Same competitors also lost Fred, Sanchez, Jorginho to rivals too.

I'm done, already wasted too much time replaying nonsense posts.

 

[chipschups]

Mourinho know where his team lack but sometimes he asking some unrealistic target, if he coaching Inter I can understand if our board wouldnt guaranted his request. But this MU, and this summer he actually asking some realistic enforcement who everyone know United been lacking for couple past year, A left Back and Right winger. Alex Sandro and Bale price tag probably is out of their reach, but given Mourinho some proper replacement target would not harm the team at all. But so far United did nothing from what I see, and let Mourinho playing with Young as Left back and not proper right winger whoever play there, making some mistakes again. And I dont think united fans get pleased with their mercato move so far, no one coming and then no one goes, uncertain player like Martial still in limbo because he didnt get a guaranteed about his status.

 

[brehme1989]

That's what you fail to understand. Not everyone Man Utd was from Jose's list. So far, 0 names were from his list. Same with the winter window. And he doesn't want Harry Maguire or Yerry Mina, either. Doesn't mean he's gonna say "don't sign him". They DO NOT PUT OFFERS for the players he wants because they say WE CANNOT AFFORD THEM.

What's the excuse for the richest club in the world to say WE CANNOT AFFORD THE PLAYERS OUR MANAGER ASKS FOR and how can you claim that THE MANAGER ASKS FOR THE PLAYERS AND WOODWARD IS JUST THE MONEY MAN? How do you even come on top of shit when you contradict yourself with the Duncan Castles-Mourinho-Man Utd triangle? The journalist says that the scouting department gave the names to the club and they will decide who they will go for, despite not being the type of player Mourinho asked for.... How on earth can you still insist on this?

I'd even give you a phone number to talk to about this, but you're not worth the time & explaining to do for wasting someone else's time...

Man Utd is the richest club in the world. The argument here is "Mourinho asks for the player and the money-man delivers", yet no one ever came from those players. Mourinho himself said publically he asked for 5 players and none of them had arrived. Which included a concluded deal on both Fred and Dalot.......

Yeah, that Jose doesn't dictate transfers when only players we sign are recommended by Jose.

Funny how Jose called all these players but somehow they are dumped on Jose to work with

At ManUtd it's always the manager who decides transfers, ins and outs.

There is no committee or formula

Keeping this gem in case Harry Maguire arrives. Then your argument will be "Mourinho gave him a phone call". Of course he did, he's a fucking great manager and knows how to treat his players. He even texts his former players at midnight just to see how they're doing....

 

[monster09]

0 names from his list Same shit, rinse and repeat.

Calling transfer target is same as texting your players No wonder you struggle to understand even simple points

Sorry couldn't resist. I'm done this time seriously.

 

[brehme1989]

Mourinho know where his team lack but sometimes he asking some unrealistic target, if he coaching Inter I can understand if our board wouldnt guaranted his request. But this MU, and this summer he actually asking some realistic enforcement who everyone know United been lacking for couple past year, A left Back and Right winger. Alex Sandro and Bale price tag probably is out of their reach, but given Mourinho some proper replacement target would not harm the team at all. But so far United did nothing from what I see, and let Mourinho playing with Young as Left back and not proper right winger whoever play there, making some mistakes again. And I dont think united fans get pleased with their mercato move so far, no one coming and then no one goes, uncertain player like Martial still in limbo because he didnt get a guaranteed about his status.

Well, not exactly.

Bale wouldn't leave Real Madrid with a change in coaching staff. Either way, they should have gone for a similar name but they did not.

On the other hand, Alex Sandro wasn't far from their reach. They spent the same amount on Fred. And they'd also spend what Juventus wanted on Alex Sandro if he was part of the World Cup squad, especially with Marcelo out for a big part of it. That's exactly what the whole Man Utd transfer policy is like.

 

[Materazzi_23]

I can't believe managers nowadays sign their own players, they can say who they want but they never have the final word. The last years Mourinho always complaining about certain players ''he'' bought. You don't do that to the players you bought, you do that to the players who where bought by the club. So Mourinho can say: ''I told you they aren't good enough, you should sign the players i wanted!''. I thought with van Gaal, di maria came and van Gaal admitted later that this wasn't his signing but the club wanted him. If every club told the manager to buy whoever they want every club would be out of business for buying 10 players every season when the manager changes.

Man Utd is the richest club in the world. The argument here is "Mourinho asks for the player and the money-man delivers", yet no one ever came from those players. Mourinho himself said publically he asked for 5 players and none of them had arrived. Which included a concluded deal on both Fred and Dalot.......

Best example given.

 

[monster09]

I can't believe managers nowadays sign their own players, they can say who they want but they never have the final word. The last years Mourinho always complaining about certain players ''he'' bought. You don't do that to the players you bought, you do that to the players who where bought by the club. So Mourinho can say: ''I told you they aren't good enough, you should sign the players i wanted!''. I thought with van Gaal, di maria came and van Gaal admitted later that this wasn't his signing but the club wanted him. If every club told the manager to buy whoever they want every club would be out of business for buying 10 players every season when the manager changes.
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And same thing happened with Van Gaal and Jose. So many outfield players were signed and changed for Van Gaal and entire outfield players except LB and RW are changed for Jose. Manager gives list of targets and they are signed, not everyone of them as it's impossible.

For Van Gaal, Darmian, Blind, Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin, Depay, Martial, Rojo were signed as he didn't like his previous team.

Jose didn't like Van Gaal's signings and sold almost everyone now. He has completely changed his team.

Van Gaal before Di Maria was signed said he wanted winger like DI Maria and player was signed.

At this moment, we have five No 9s and four No 10s – and we don’t have wingers to give us attacking width," said the manager shortly before Di Maria’s arrival. "Or, I should say, we don't have wingers of the highest level, like Ronaldo or Di Maria or somebody like that. So, I have to play in another way – and you have seen that already."

Last year Jose complained about

Martial - Van Gaal signing
Shaw - Van Gaal signing
Pogba - his signing
Smalling - Fergie signing

 

[Materazzi_23]

And same thing happened with Van Gaal and Jose. So many outfield players were signed and changed for Van Gaal and entire outfield players except LB and RW are changed for Jose. Manager gives list of targets and they are signed, not everyone of them as it's impossible.

For Van Gaal, Darmian, Blind, Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin, Depay, Martial, Rojo were signed as he didn't like his previous team.

Jose didn't like Van Gaal's signings and sold almost everyone now. He has completely changed his team.

Van Gaal before Di Maria was signed said he wanted winger like DI Maria and player was signed.

Because they weren't good enough not because they were bought by van Gaal. And i'm not saying clubs don't sign players wanted by the managers but it's not like the manager gives a list of players and everyone will come from that list.

He wanted Di Maria and let him play on every position except his best one...


Di Maria on van Gaal:

Ángel di María has admitted he had a difficult relationship with Louis van Gaal and that was the prime reason he left Manchester United for Paris Saint-Germain in the summer. But not seeing eye-to-eye with Van Gaal proved to be the defining factor in Di María’s departure. “I didn’t get on very well with the coach, so I think the decision to join Paris was the best solution” he told Le Parisien.

If only van |Gaal wanted Di Maria they would know they didn't got along already.

And it's not specifically Di Maria, I just tried to explain that there are alot of players who are bought by the club and not the manager. Frank de Boer said this already about Gabriel Barbosa, he didn't even knew the player but Inter wanted to buy him. Offcourse they will ask the manager about certain players but the club will have always the final word on transfers.

 

[monster09]

Because they weren't good enough not because they were bought by van Gaal. And i'm not saying clubs don't sign players wanted by the managers but it's not like the manager gives a list of players and everyone will come from that list.

He wanted Di Maria and let him play on every position except his best one...


Di Maria on van Gaal:

Ángel di María has admitted he had a difficult relationship with Louis van Gaal and that was the prime reason he left Manchester United for Paris Saint-Germain in the summer. But not seeing eye-to-eye with Van Gaal proved to be the defining factor in Di María’s departure. “I didn’t get on very well with the coach, so I think the decision to join Paris was the best solution” he told Le Parisien.

If only van |Gaal wanted Di Maria they would know they didn't got along already.

And it's not specifically Di Maria, I just tried to explain that there are alot of players who are bought by the club and not the manager. Frank de Boer said this already about Gabriel Barbosa, he didn't even knew the player but Inter wanted to buy him. Offcourse they will ask the manager about certain players but the club will have always the final word on transfers.

What you are saying is true for most clubs, not for ManUtd and till wenger was there, Arsenal. Not every player manager wants will be signed (its not even possible for ManCity who have unlimited money), but players from managers's list will be signed and they have list of 4-5 targets for each position.

This model sucks though without long term managers like SAF. With Van Gaal we changed entire 11 to fit his style, now with Jose he wanted entire new 11 and you can check the transfers, we have changed almost entire 11 2 times. This is not sustainable, even for one of the richest club in the world.

Di Maria case was very straight forward. Van Gaal wanted him and even mentioned his name before transfer, Di Maria was just pathetic at the club after his first 2-3 months and lost his place to Young, now Van Gaal wants to blame someone else.

 

[wera]

Somebody needs to show me this Mourinho list some people are talking about.

 

[monster09]

Somebody needs to show me this Mourinho list some people are talking about.

 

[Harpsabu]

Shake your dicks this pissing competition is over

 

[monster09]

Arsenal's majority shareholder Stan Kroenke has made a £600m offer to buy the whole of the club in a deal that would value the Gunners at £1.8bn.

The American billionaire owns 67% of Arsenal through his company KSE, which says Alisher Usmanov has agreed to sell his 30% stake in the club.

A KSE statement to says taking the club private will help to further Arsenal's "strategy and ambitions".

The buy-out announcement was made to the London Stock exchange on Tuesday.

Despite his shareholding, Usmanov is not part of the board or the decision-making at Arsenal.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/45094538

Rumors that Usmanov might invest in Everton.

 

[Stefan]

Sadly don't feel any of the other teams have done enough to close the gap on city.

 

[wera]

Henry, one of the best we had the chance to see.

 

[Besnik]

He was amazing. All in one though. Btw, anyone else remember WE7 game? Arsenal was fucking badass team and Henry was probably the best player of that game alongside original Ronaldo.

It remains my favourite game all time lol.

 

[Sassuolu]

Jose sucks at signing players tbh.

 

[brehme1989]

Jose sucks at signing players tbh.

*Man Utd

In his first window with Chelsea he got them Robben, Drogba, Ricardo Carvalho, Cech and Paulo Ferreira(who was good for a year or two). Only Kezman and Tiago were bad moves in the aftermath. It's not like he has a piss poor record. And for all we know, the Deco/Lampard shit in 2008 and 2009 was mostly media stuff. They also said that he disliked Stankovic and wanted to send him to Juventus back then and the guy was indispensible in 2008-9...

As for Quaresma in 2008, everyone really thought that the guy matured and was ready for the big step.