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HSV still has a chance to win Bundesliga, they had 2 bad results in the first 2 games but i trust in them, last year they win Bayern Munchen in both games and probably this year will be the same story.
 

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Alex de Large said:
HSV still has a chance to win Bundesliga, they had 2 bad results in the first 2 games but i trust in them, last year they win Bayern Munchen in both games and probably this year will be the same story.


Man I hope so... I hate Bayern, I always have... Matin knows how much I hate tham.;). I just hope eighter Bremen or HSV are champions, just no Bayern...
 

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West facking Ham?! Wow, regardless of what happens in the future, a HUGE boost to their squad. One can't help but wonder how they'll adapt to the English league (and society) though. Methinks both will be in Spain or Italy in the near future.
 

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Cole to Chelsea, Gallas to Arsenal

The following is a joint statement by Chelsea Football Club and Arsenal Football Club on Ashley Cole/William Gallas:

Chelsea FC and Arsenal have agreed terms for the transfers of Ashley Cole and William Gallas.

Chelsea will also pay Arsenal 5m pounds.

Both players have agreed personal terms and passed their respective medicals.

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http://www.chelseafc.com/article.asp?hlid=413499&title=Cole+to+Chelsea,+Gallas+to+Arsenal&nav=news
 

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Coup of the summer has gotta also gotta be THE MOST shocking transfer of all time to me, West Ham's purchase of Mascherano and Tevez at just 15 million Pounds. They are arguably two of the very best in their position, young and talented.

If only we bought Masch instead of Vieira and Tevez instead of Ibra. :(

But what's done is done, let's just support the club and our players all we can this season.
 

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Handoyo said:
Coup of the summer has gotta also gotta be THE MOST shocking transfer of all time to me, West Ham's purchase of Mascherano and Tevez at just 15 million Pounds. They are arguably two of the very best in their position, young and talented.

If only we bought Masch instead of Vieira and Tevez instead of Ibra. :(

But what's done is done, let's just support the club and our players all we can this season.

Were do you get the 15 million from Handoyo the fee is undisclosed. MSI owned the players rights so they might have gone to West Ham for free.
 

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I read on Internet that they have signed permanent deals for 15 mil pounds each... If it is true, where the fuk did West Ham find that money!?!?!?!
 

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I read that were loans
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Alex de Large said:
I read that were loans
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I have read that before, but now 1 hour ago, I read this:



West Ham sign Tevez and Mascherano in coup of the season

01 September 2006

Pocket-lint has something of a soft spot for West Ham United which makes the signing of Tevez and Mascherano welcome news indeed.

In what smacks of a great bid of good old Cockney trading, the pair have signed permanent deals with the club for an undisclosed fee, probably 15 million pounds. Having starred in the World Cup, both players were expected to make big money moves to top clubs. West Ham have beaten off the likes of Chelsea, Man United and Arsenal in signing the players.

The really interesting part is in the "ownership" of the players, with MSI, Media Sports Investments, being involved the deal, and also having shown previous interest in WHUFC. Last year MSI made a failed bid to buy the football club for £75m. Perhaps they know something we don't.

Of course, the players are almost certainly guaranteed to play week in and week out - a move to Chelsea could have found them sitting on the most expensive bench in London.

Whilst the fans are celebrating the signing of new talent to the club, there remains the fuzzy blurring of the lines between the beautiful game and complicated business deals.
 

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Guys, try to understand. West Ham doesn't own T's & M's playing rights at all. MSI, who owns them, just brought the players to West Ham to be in a shopping window for the big European clubs, for big English clubs foremost. West Ham probably paid nominal fee to MSI (not Corinthians, they didn't own T & M any more than West Ham now) so that they could have the players at their disposal. If T & M succeeds in next season, MSI probably sells their playing rights for the biggest bidder (guess who it's gonna be).
 

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CafeCordoba said:
If T & M succeeds in next season, MSI probably sells their playing rights for the biggest bidder (guess who it's gonna be).


Chel$ki... LOL... You are definitely right, but I tought it can be done only if they are on loan. And now when they have signed permanent deals, who knows? And it sais West Ham payed 15 mil pounds each...:confused:
 

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CafeCordoba said:
Guys, try to understand. West Ham doesn't own T's & M's playing rights at all. MSI, who owns them, just brought the players to West Ham to be in a shopping window for the big European clubs, for big English clubs foremost. West Ham probably paid nominal fee to MSI (not Corinthians, they didn't own T & M any more than West Ham now) so that they could have the players at their disposal. If T & M succeeds in next season, MSI probably sells their playing rights for the biggest bidder (guess who it's gonna be).
Also, though I'm not sure exactly the mechanisms by which this works, I believe West Ham is forced to get rid of the pair if they recieve bids over 50m GBP. MSI would then receive a very large percentage of their transfer fee.

So, this deal works out great for West Ham who get two of the best prospects in the world for very cheap, and MSI makes more money than they would have.

Also, I'm very happy with Milan picking up Oliveira. Of the other realistic strikers out there (so, no Eto'o or anything), Suazo was the other one I especially would have loved. I had started to come around on Drogba though, despite his ridiculous cost. I also would have liked to see Iaquinta come, though I'm sure most disagree with that. Borriello showed some nice moves in the pretty much meaningless half against Inter the other day though, so maybe another addition will prove to have been useless. I think not picking up Oddo or Amelia after the loans went out is unfortunate, but I would not be surprised at all (perhaps even expect) to see something happen in January regarding one or both.
 
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I think not picking up Oddo or Amelia after the loans went out is unfortunate, but I would not be surprised at all (perhaps even expect) to see something happen in January regarding one or both.

Amelia is not so needed, I think we're going to use him for Buffon deal, if we ever sign him, of course..Now, decision not to buy Oddo is rather strange..I guess Ancelotti was satisfied with Cafu/Bonera duo..

Btw. Arsenal had a great transfer campaign..They got rid of unhappy players like Reyes and Cole and got Baptista and Gallas instead..Additionaly, they signed Rosicky and kept Henry..
 

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^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

I respect Arsenal for their policy. They never needed any player as hell (lol like we do), they make their own players, sell them to greedy people like Chelsea and Madrid, get the money and then they bring better and younger players.

Great policies, Arsenal, Ajax, PSV, Parma...
 

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Amelia is not so needed, I think we're going to use him for Buffon deal, if we ever sign him, of course..Now, decision not to buy Oddo is rather strange..I guess Ancelotti was satisfied with Cafu/Bonera duo..
True, but it certainly doesn't look like Dida will return after this season, and if he does he's already 33 years old and having some rough times recently. Having Amelia (or flipping him to Juve for Buffon) would be a huge boost not necessarily for this year but going forward.

I would love them sticking with Cafu/Bonera if it weren't for Cafu's age, he's looked really good so far but I doubt he can keep it up over a full season.

And yes, Arsenal did very well. Chelsea too, though Cole replaces Bridge who has been in my eyes their best defender. They also signed Boulahrouz a few days ago.
 
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^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

Great policies, Arsenal, Ajax, PSV, Parma...
I agree with you man, and just add HSV, they buying cheap,big talents on the end of contracts.
Van der Vaart,de Jong, Kompany, Guerero, all together 15-20, thats just great and right now just with selling VDV they can earn all of that.
 

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I agree with you man, and just add HSV, they buying cheap,big talents on the end of contracts.
Van der Vaart,de Jong, Kompany, Guerero, all together 15-20, thats just great and right now just with selling VDV they can earn all of that.

VDV will eventually go to Bayern believe me.And I dont think this will take more than 2 season.Bayern need a strong young midfield chief.Van Bommel is a temporary outstanding solution!
 

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VDV will eventually go to Bayern believe me.And I dont think this will take more than 2 season.Bayern need a strong young midfield chief.Van Bommel is a temporary outstanding solution!


Why do you always say that the best young talents will go to Bayern? I say VDV will go to Inter...;)... Just kidding, but since I remember, you say that all players one day will play in Bayern... And you were rught ONLY about Podolski.

Btw, you should know, who will play as forst choise attack, Makaay and Podolski or? Personally I would play Santa Cruz and Podolski...
 

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I don't think VDV moves from HSV in lots of years, he is the captain now and have a lot of responsibilitys, it also depends on what HSV do in the next years.
Hey and what about Claudio Pizarro? the guy is so underrated.... better than Santa Cruz for me, i would play with Podolsky as a second striker and as a pure striker Makaay or Pizarro.
 
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