Francesco Acerbi

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Any color skin can be used in a sentence with a derogatory/racist meaning given the context. I personally never ever used someones skin color to insult them as I think its nonsense and also I am not bothered by it. I have been called gipsy ( not sure which words are allowed/not allowed on forum ) and got spat on and so on by our hungarian buddies even as a 13 year old playing in the first team with grown ups in friendlies.
I however consider it extremely stupid for a professional athlete to use racial slurs or using skin color derogatory given the spotlight and the whole "lets be politically correct" which I do consider extreme in lots of cases.
 

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Never been in Italy I reckon ?

I’ve been in Italy many times and frequent the country regularly. Daily and casual racism is unfortunately very widespread in Italy. It really should not shock or surprise anyone anymore.

Just look at serie a, you can hardly have a week pass by without some individual expressing their questionable views. We have a team in Lazio who are notoriously known for having crowds of a certain type. Acerbi came from said team, a team where racism is almost impregnated into every single layer of the club. It’s more shocking that there’re still players of colour who still want to play for them, especially as their crowds made monkey sounds for the 1001 time not long ago and it’s been going on for at least 50 odd years.
Lets not generalize. Its the Lazio Curva that is the issue not the club or the rest of the fanbase.
If we go on curva's ours also have a racist rep.
 

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Lets not generalize. Its the Lazio Curva that is the issue not the club or the rest of the fanbase.
If we go on curva's ours also have a racist rep.

The clubs is part of the problem, but it so classic for European football clubs to remove themselves from the problem, there would not be this problem if they had not made it a free heaven for such expressions and behaviour to begin with.

All it would take is exclude certain known ultra groups from even entering the stadium, black list known troublemakers etc. penalise them heavily… but at the end of days they don’t really care, it’s purely symbolic gestures when they do something, it’s half hearted.

If you want it out there is only one method and is strike down on it.

Inter has indeed a similar issue though on much lower scale. Inter also should have banned several ultras groups years ago… but willingness to is questionable… Our groups are even linked to the mafia isn’t that lovely
 
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The clubs is part of the problem, but it so classic for European football clubs to remove themselves from the problem, there would not be this problem if they had not made it a free heaven for such expressions and behaviour to begin with.

Let's be real.
Europe is the problem.

If Asia or Africa was as developed as Europe, then they'd be "the problem".

And that just shows that it's not really an actual problem, it's just human nature and one of the things society has been told to curtail from expressing. And some cultures are less likely to suppress their feelings than others. That's the gist of it.

I've had wild "racism" experiences in various countries. The worse was in east Asia. Are they cunts? No. They're just pretty straight forward.
Several African countries, same thing. UK? Same thing, I was called a fucking Spaniard so many times and I always replied in Spanish just to mess with them and tell them "now I'm talking spanish you fat fuck". Usually they were fat.

Anyway, the whole thing is nonsensical. When will we know if Acerbi is pure evil or not?
 

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Thank God we South East Asians don't need to worry on darker-brighter skin thing. Asian native tribes can look other tribes as a partner not as semi-human.
 

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Let's be real.
Europe is the problem.

If Asia or Africa was as developed as Europe, then they'd be "the problem".

And that just shows that it's not really an actual problem, it's just human nature and one of the things society has been told to curtail from expressing. And some cultures are less likely to suppress their feelings than others. That's the gist of it.

I've had wild "racism" experiences in various countries. The worse was in east Asia. Are they cunts? No. They're just pretty straight forward.
Several African countries, same thing. UK? Same thing, I was called a fucking Spaniard so many times and I always replied in Spanish just to mess with them and tell them "now I'm talking spanish you fat fuck". Usually they were fat.

Anyway, the whole thing is nonsensical. When will we know if Acerbi is pure evil or not?

Europe isn’t really any more developed than Asia on average, when people say so it’s because they are thinking about a certain part of Europe and actually not the whole continent. But there massive differences between north and east. There few European countries ranked among the poorest countries in the world.

You find similar differences in Asia where you have some very wealthy very developed countries like in Japan and Singapore for example and some equally poor ones.

I don’t really buy the suppressing feeling theory if so there would be no obvious racism in north, but there abundant of it here. And Northern Europeans are champs as suppressing feelings, Japan also has its fair share of racism and not exactly known for being Italian of the east.

Yes there hate, discrimination, racism in every country it goes back as far as the very first civilisation, but it doesn’t make it okay or right. If so let’s keep on burning villages, killing innocent, raping, murdering, beating kids because that was after all a fundamental part of our past… or we could improve, after all we are born with a brain that allows us to change and improve.

This is what civilized is, that we with our rationality chooses to be well mannered, respectful and being tolerant etc. acting out from instinct and lust is the opposite.

I don’t believe in evilness of any kind. Evilness lack any sort of nuances, no one is or has ever been evil, they might had a very twisted view that lead them to a very brutal act but describe them as evil is not a particular good description.

Acerbi isn’t evil, if he said what JJ said, there can be many good rational explanations of why, even then for most part you can change people like him for the better, if they are willingly to change. If true he is mainly just a misguided one. There been examples of Neo-Nazis who turned the ship around and became loving people.
 
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I just finished watching a serial on Netflix, where Chinese in San Fran called whites as ducks and their new arriving Chinese from China as onions. Now, those were the racist times, where a mob of Irish would go blew factories up, because industrialists hired cheap Chinese labor. And of course, Irish had their own fair share of discrimination in US. Anyways, at my work there were some black guys and a few Ethiopian guys. Complete disconnect. But that was in early 90's, maybe things are better now.
 

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Lets not generalize. Its the Lazio Curva that is the issue not the club or the rest of the fanbase.
If we go on curva's ours also have a racist rep.
Nah with lazio it s the whole fucking club and it s basically every fan curve in italy that has a racsim problem...
Buddy of mine is a hardcore roma fan dude throws the n word around very casually even when talking about toma players....
Again the problem is that many in italy dont look at it as racsim but just as a way of fucking with the player....
 

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Let's be real.
Europe is the problem.

If Asia or Africa was as developed as Europe, then they'd be "the problem".

And that just shows that it's not really an actual problem, it's just human nature and one of the things society has been told to curtail from expressing. And some cultures are less likely to suppress their feelings than others. That's the gist of it.

I've had wild "racism" experiences in various countries. The worse was in east Asia. Are they cunts? No. They're just pretty straight forward.
Several African countries, same thing. UK? Same thing, I was called a fucking Spaniard so many times and I always replied in Spanish just to mess with them and tell them "now I'm talking spanish you fat fuck". Usually they were fat.

Anyway, the whole thing is nonsensical. When will we know if Acerbi is pure evil or not?

white people in europe are a problem
 

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white people in europe are a problem
so true:)

Damn Charles Martel should have lost to Arabs so we would not have a racist society today.
 

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Thank God we South East Asians don't need to worry on darker-brighter skin thing. Asian native tribes can look other tribes as a partner not as semi-human.
Who are you kidding? How about Chinese Indo vs Native Indo? Racists exist everywhere and you can't just generalise. Heck, even amongst black people "racism" exists between the dark skinned and light skinned.
 

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Acerbi should read this thread. I expect him to play soon.
 

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I was thinking about Acerbi and the fact that we could lose him as an option for the rest of the season. I am disappointed and personally feel that he failed to grasp or took for granted what it meant to be playing for Inter. Maybe at Lazio, he could have flown under the radar or they may have shrugged their shoulders but at Inter, its a totally different story, given the history and stature of the club.

And perhaps more disappointing than the above is the fact that the player seems to have forgotten the crucial juncture at which we stand in Serie A. Potentially getting suspended for the remainder of the season does not help Inter and it does not help his teammates and mostly leaves a bitter taste for a player that has frequently performed above expectations.
 

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Who are you kidding? How about Chinese Indo vs Native Indo? Racists exist everywhere and you can't just generalise. Heck, even amongst black people "racism" exists between the dark skinned and light skinned.

Well more correctly would in truth be that hate, prejudice, stigmatisation, discrimination and negative categorisation exists across our entire world… racism has always been an odd choice of definition for something that for most part rarely had anything to do with the pseudo scientific theories and brain fart of ideas, in truth it does not really exist. In most cases the discrimination isn’t really built on such idea to begin with, it doesn’t often have that layer, it’s just prejudice, hate, fear towards a group usually with absolutely not the slightest of reason.

I really wished we gave it a more fitting term, but now that odd fitting term is what we use for basically any sort of discrimination, I can live with it, but it’s still a somewhat of an odd naming for something that is about so many other things. But we can say that about many words today.
 
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