Inter jerseys 2007/2008

[Handoyo]

What about Manchester United and Milan? They both represent the devil. Those two teams must be hated by all, Christians, Jews, and Muslims.

Gold! :star:

Anyways Hamed, the black & blue cross shirt is extremely Photoshop and there is no clue whatsover that it'll be our home shirt.

 

[Miki]

What about Manchester United and Milan? They both represent the devil. Those two teams must be hated by all, Christians, Jews, and Muslims.

Well, Milan are. Who likes them, anyway?

Ciao,
Tim

 

[Choppin Onions]

No wonder this world is phucked. Football teams can't even celebrate their own heritage without people screaming foul over some religious shit.

Truth. This religion shit is ridiculous is to read

It's not like JZ, Crespo and Matrix are gonna wear their shiny new St. George cross shirts, slap on a helmet and buckle up their longswords and charge into Jerusalem, hacking into Muslims. People need to get a grip

 

[Edlaut]

I am Christian, but I never thought I can perceive this Inter jersey as some religious.... until Lamb of God post
Well, you can still take it as Red Cross and Red Crescent organization jersey )))))

 

[Ehsan]

I have to say that I am very offended by the shirt.

Why is the blue so dark? During games and with sweat etc. the blue would merge with the black and the whole thing would just look like a black shirt, which would suck. I hope they work on the colours' combinations.

Also, no collar again!

I am assuming the photshoped one is close to the real one.

I just photoshopped the Away shirt for fun, and to get a feel for how gold would look on black. The real one won't be even close to this.

Sorry for the colors, but the original source was really dark, and do you know how hard it is to turn white into black while keeping the shadows? Our real shirts will definitely have the proper colors and our classic stripes. If I get some free time I'll try to do one with stripes and gold writing.

 

[Lamb of God]

I wonder if Muslims on other forums are complaining that other teams have a cross on their uniform?

Let's see. We have Barcelona, which has a red cross on their logo. Milan has a red cross on their logo. Parma has a black cross on their logo. Madrid has a yellow cross on their logo.

What about Manchester United and Milan? They both represent the devil. Those two teams must be hated by all, Christians, Jews, and Muslims.

Dude lets just bury all this issue as I misundertood it so I say my bad for this shitty situation.

 

[il magnifico]

You're reading far too much into the design, bro.

If Inter wanted to depict the cross as a Christian symbol, as opposed to a city one, then, they must have thought of the potential boycott, or at the least, displeasure, from fans such as yourself. Surely the designers of the jersey couldn't be that obtuse, could they?

Ciao,
Tim

youre misunderstanding what im saying

yes the cross is there to represent milan.
but the cross itself is a christian symbol. its not like its just a cross there cause its a pretty design. its the symbol of milan because its the cross of st george and to say there is no religious symbology in it is ignorant. no it wasnt picked because its a christian symbol, but that doesnt mean that its not. do i think it will be a problem, no it shouldnt be a problem at all. the cross of st george is the symbol of milan, and inter and inter fans should be proud to have it on their kit.


but to say that theres no religious meaning to it is stupid. but again, i dont think it should be a problem for anyone. its not the reason it was chosen, and its not what inter is trying to say. people wont see it and thin, hmmm thats a nice cross Forza Christians! no one thinks that when they see Parma, they think, "oh, sucks to be parma." people should see it and realize that its part of inter's history, and about inter representing milan.

 

[Miki]

yes the cross is there to represent milan.
but the cross itself is a christian symbol. its not like its just a cross there cause its a pretty design. its the symbol of milan because its the cross of st george and to say there is no religious symbology in it is ignorant. no it wasnt picked because its a christian symbol, but that doesnt mean that its not. do i think it will be a problem, no it shouldnt be a problem at all. the cross of st george is the symbol of milan, and inter and inter fans should be proud to have it on their kit.

Dude, I didn't say the cross had absolutely nothing to do with Christianity; rather, I did cite city pride for its probable use, as opposed to adopting the symbol as a connotation of the Christian faith.

Besides, why are you so uptight over the derivation of the cross's use? As you have logically concluded, the reasons for its incorporation is likely rooted in regional history.

but to say that theres no religious meaning to it is stupid. but again, i dont think it should be a problem for anyone. its not the reason it was chosen, and its not what inter is trying to say. people wont see it and thin, hmmm thats a nice cross Forza Christians! no one thinks that when they see Parma, they think, "oh, sucks to be parma." people should see it and realize that its part of inter's history, and about inter representing milan.

I think you've gone off on a tangent here, mate. You seem to be arguing against your own points, as opposed to rebutting my (our) own.

Ciao,
Tim

 

[il magnifico]

Dude, I didn't say the cross had absolutely nothing to do with Christianity; rather, I did cite city pride for its probable use, as opposed to adopting the symbol as a connotation of the Christian faith.

Besides, why are you so uptight over the derivation of the cross's use? As you have logically concluded, the reasons for its incorporation is likely rooted in regional history.


I think you've gone off on a tangent here, mate. You seem to be arguing against your own points, as opposed to rebutting my (our) own.

Ciao,
Tim

you never made any points that contradicted any of mine.

my original post that you quoted said that to deny that the cross has anything to do with religion is ignorant. youve said it doesnt have any religious undertones. and thats wrong. it wasnt chosen because of the reliious undertones, but there are some there.

you said, it was chosen because it was the symbol of milan not because of its christian symbology.

i said yes, i said that a while ago, but you still cant say its not a christian symbol. it wasnt chosen because it was a christian symbol, it was chosen because it represents milan. but it still has a christian meaning, but i dont think tahts a problem.

you said "i dont get it"

basically my point is- it was chosen as a representation of Milan, sort of "Milano Siamo Noi" in a kit. but you cant say that it doesnt have religious undertones. but at the same time, its milan. we celebrated the scudetto in front of Il Duomo. Religious, and more than that christian/Catholic, undertones are everywhere and shouldnt be a problem for players or fans of this league.

and im not uptight, i just get tired of making the same point 4 times.

 

[Miki]

you never made any points that contradicted any of mine.

So why are we perpetuating this argument?

my original post that you quoted said that to deny that the cross has anything to do with religion is ignorant. youve said it doesnt have any religious undertones. and thats wrong. it wasnt chosen because of the reliious undertones, but there are some there.

Since when did I make the claim that the derivation of the cross on the flag of Milan has nothing to do with religion?

This was my initial reply to your post -

If Inter wanted to depict the cross as a Christian symbol, as opposed to a city one, then, they must have thought of the potential boycott, or at the least, displeasure, from fans such as yourself. Surely the designers of the jersey couldn't be that obtuse, could they?

I didn't know my post was that intricate, but there.

My entire reply was grounded in the opinion that the designers of the jersey chose to DEPICT the cross as a symbol of Milan, and not a Christian one.

you said, it was chosen because it was the symbol of milan not because of its christian symbology.

Yes, but that doesn't exclude its historical definition. I merely claimed that the cross was chosen with regional pride in mind.

Gee, I'm getting tautological with my posts.

i said yes, i said that a while ago, but you still cant say its not a christian symbol. it wasnt chosen because it was a christian symbol, it was chosen because it represents milan. but it still has a christian meaning, but i dont think tahts a problem.

But.. but.. I never once claimed the cross was not a symbol of Christianity!

you said "i dont get it"

I apologize if you felt this way. I never once meant to demean your understanding of the debate at hand.

basically my point is- it was chosen as a representation of Milan, sort of "Milano Siamo Noi" in a kit. but you cant say that it doesnt have religious undertones. but at the same time, its milan. we celebrated the scudetto in front of Il Duomo. Religious, and more than that christian/Catholic, undertones are everywhere and shouldnt be a problem for players or fans of this league.

As explained above.

Ciao,
Tim

 

[il magnifico]

Well, as you have already noted, the cross is a stylized representation of the flag of Milano; hence, its use is entirely restricted to regional pride, and doesn't and shouldn't insinuate any religious undertones, subtle or not.

this is what i was referring to. i have no idea why we are arguing to be honest. i think we both agree that the cross is there as a symbol of milan and not christianity. i was just making the point, to the people, and theyre have been, that have said its not a religious symbol, that even though its not chosen because it is a religious symbol, you cant say that its not. and then we end up here.

 

[Fabio]

Anything racist here?

 

[pablito]

il magnifico is right.

the shirt has heavy religious connotations. people can argue all they like, bottom line is ITS THE CHRISTIAN CROSS.

if you dont like it, shit happens.

in my opinon dont bother buying the shirt if you dont recognise it for its christian significance. milan is a proud city for its religion... The Duomo di Milano, st ambrose, its celtic origins, one of the first citys to freely embrace christanity plus the iron grip the church holds in milano for hundreds of years.

if you dont apreciate the shirt for these qualities, then dont bother buying it. the cross isnt there for decoration!

 

[Enricos]

Anything racist here?

Is that the now home shirt, or just a photoshop?

 

[Suneet]

More thinner stripes, please, but even this one is gud!

 

[F-C]

Jake posted the original 1908 jersey on the other thread.

I have a feeling that the new kit will strongly resemble this, minus the lace.

 

[K.I.]

So yah even if the cross is cristian related...to be honest i really dont have a big problem with it,i mean when i went to switzerland i went to see churches as sight viewing....if i get this inter shirt and wear it doesnt change anything in my religion...so yah all that talk is useless...thats my opinion anyways.

 

[Suneet]

Lets just focus on the jerseys, please, I hate the religion threads it makes our posts have a negative feel about it. We all should have one religion, INTER!

 

[Djorkaeff]

New jerseys are great. Im not christian, and i just see on shirt simbol of Milano city

 

[interista]

Anything racist here?

tricolor is nationalistic..and my neigboors uncle is a jew, so yes I am offended