Inter - Lazio (SuperCoppa Italiana) (8 Aug 09)
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Forum SupporterI would start Santon over Zanetti... I love il capitano but it's time for him to phase out of the squad. Just my opinion I guess...
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im with you.... its a shame JZ hasnt got a final option... he still can run with the ball but it amounts to usually zero inteligence when he delivers that final pass or shot... he had Muntari all alone numerous times yet he kept on running with it on the left
we really need some left footed additions as for me Santon should play on the right in the not so distant future..
like i said before Sulley Muntari is the only player with confidence to cross with his "left foot" and is the only player that can position himself properly on that left flank....
everyone else from our midline will stop and revert to their right foot and cross...dont get me wrong those balls in the mixer are dangerous but we lose 2 seconds>>>
but the CF's should be getting balls to run onto from a left angle from a left footer...
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10 years of FIFDejan.
I still am not confident of Muntari. He is sometimes so brainless, and he has this thing, when he acts like nobody is pressing him, when in fact he has a ball lke 30 meters in fron of our goal, and 2 players attacking him. It is silly, it is stupid, and as long as he won't quit plays like that I will not rate him high.
The only thing right now that he is good at is his workrate, but that's pretty much it. I thought he will be very good, from what I saw in a friendly versus Milan last year, but it wasn't like that after that.
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Forum Supporter10 years of FIFI don't think there's a clear standout. I would probably rather see Muntari though given he's left footed and has fairly good crossing ability.
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Santon is lately always running to dead ends or loosing balls, while Zanetti the king always looks for play possibilities and keep the ball into our team.
He never looses the ball or passes wrong, he must be our New LB for this year. Yes, Santon is more offensive, but that doesn't mean he can loose more balls then Zanetti. Santon's position is a defender not a attacker, while if Zanetti runs he never loose a ball.
Santon is just a kid who didn't leave a good impression on me.
Let him learn and be a standby for Maicon and Zanetti this Year.
Next year he should rotate with Zanetti and the year After when he is 20, he must be a regular and Zanetti should be benched.
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Zanetti is still the best fullback in the world. His defending is world class and he never loses the ball. If he does it's in our opponents half. I think Santon should play second string to JZ until it's really obvious that he doesn't have it anymore. For me, JZ is playing just as good as he was 5 years ago.
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Forum SupporterBoys, I don't agree...
Santon has been picked for Italy... He's ready to start for Inter.
Santon has been picked for Italy... He's ready to start for Inter.
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Forum SupporterWhat was the point of selling Maxwell if it wasn't for Santon to play more?
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Forum SupporterMaxwell was crap maybe thats why.
However, I'm sure when someone in midfield gets injured, J.Z will move up and Santon will play. If Maicon loses form or needs rest Santon will play. I'm sure he will play more than last season.
Its just the first game of the season.
However, I'm sure when someone in midfield gets injured, J.Z will move up and Santon will play. If Maicon loses form or needs rest Santon will play. I'm sure he will play more than last season.
Its just the first game of the season.
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10 years of FIFI think that for the moment the question should be motta or stankovic because with a playmaker muntari's style of play will be very very important.
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10 years of FIFThe season is long and santon will certainly get his chances . Also i think that santon got a little too much confidence of being a starter and this benches will make him work and grow up better , let's not forget that mourinho used this method last year too.
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Ask Burdisso if that is true?
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That might actually be hard this season. If we sign a play maker, I think JZ will be in fullback pretty much all season long. We have Vieira, Muntari, Deki, Cambiasso, and Motta.
He might fill in very rare in 4-3-1-2 but hardly anytime if we go 4-3-3
Anyway, I am happy with his new role and hopefully Santon will get some chances as well.
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10 years of FIFI guess nobody is tracking this thread anymore 
, but anyways I got to do it.
Our amazing stats:
Everytime I looked at them I loled at those coments by Laziali "we deserved it", "Inter are just bitter"
Ok they won, kudos to them, it's football. But how anybody looking at those stats can deny Inter was superior on the pitch and basicly, it was us who lost the cup, not Lazio who won it.
I've watched the game second time, and Javier had a touch in both goals. Here's why:
First goal:
Javier was the one checking on Matuzalem before the free-kick was taken, so if anyone is to blame it's Capitano. I still don't hold him responsible. If anyone would watch the goal, everybody already made a step futher, when a deflection was made. Nobody could even imagine it will end like that. If Javier has to be responsible, I wouldn't hold him in more than 10% of this goal.
Second goal:
Lucio is NOT in the middle. Lucio is all the way up. The reason he is there, is that Maicon moved forward to win a ball that was heading to the sideline, and Lucio covered the wing that Maicon freed. Lucio did everything right. The picture is after the air battle happened, Maicon was much closer to the ball initially.
Now in the middle, we have Chivu, and Javier at the back. This is crucial. I'm not sure, but if they are tought like that by Jose, and the way I read some book about marking/deffense, it is correct. Chivu moved IN FRONT of the striker, to cover the space in front of Rocchi(in case it was played to him this way). If he would be behind him, the ball could be played furhter next to Rocchi. The way they are standing, they are making it difficult to pass to Rocchi. The only way they could play to him, was a LOB for a run(exactly what happened). If they would play on the ground for either side of Rocchi(for a run), Chivu and Javier would get to it first.
Now, the ball is upfield, they are faced up. Chivu DOESN'T see Rocchi, Javier DOES. If they are tought to guard like that in this particular example, it is all Javiers faul. He is the one that has Rocchi in front of him, and he should get to him when this ball was played. Javier is also not holding the line with Chivu and Lucio(offside) which I think also indicates it was Javiers fault.
Other possibility is that Javier gave Chivu a sign that he will cover Rocchi, so he can move in front of him. The space behind Javier was all clear. It was very well seen in other replay.
Those 2 things make me just a one big LOL for the 6.0 rating from Gazzetta for Javier(who is a legend, but lets rate fair), the same Lucio got, while Chivu received 5.5
, but anyways I got to do it.Our amazing stats:
Everytime I looked at them I loled at those coments by Laziali "we deserved it", "Inter are just bitter"
Ok they won, kudos to them, it's football. But how anybody looking at those stats can deny Inter was superior on the pitch and basicly, it was us who lost the cup, not Lazio who won it.
I've watched the game second time, and Javier had a touch in both goals. Here's why:
First goal:
Javier was the one checking on Matuzalem before the free-kick was taken, so if anyone is to blame it's Capitano. I still don't hold him responsible. If anyone would watch the goal, everybody already made a step futher, when a deflection was made. Nobody could even imagine it will end like that. If Javier has to be responsible, I wouldn't hold him in more than 10% of this goal.
Second goal:
Lucio is NOT in the middle. Lucio is all the way up. The reason he is there, is that Maicon moved forward to win a ball that was heading to the sideline, and Lucio covered the wing that Maicon freed. Lucio did everything right. The picture is after the air battle happened, Maicon was much closer to the ball initially.
Now in the middle, we have Chivu, and Javier at the back. This is crucial. I'm not sure, but if they are tought like that by Jose, and the way I read some book about marking/deffense, it is correct. Chivu moved IN FRONT of the striker, to cover the space in front of Rocchi(in case it was played to him this way). If he would be behind him, the ball could be played furhter next to Rocchi. The way they are standing, they are making it difficult to pass to Rocchi. The only way they could play to him, was a LOB for a run(exactly what happened). If they would play on the ground for either side of Rocchi(for a run), Chivu and Javier would get to it first.
Now, the ball is upfield, they are faced up. Chivu DOESN'T see Rocchi, Javier DOES. If they are tought to guard like that in this particular example, it is all Javiers faul. He is the one that has Rocchi in front of him, and he should get to him when this ball was played. Javier is also not holding the line with Chivu and Lucio(offside) which I think also indicates it was Javiers fault.
Other possibility is that Javier gave Chivu a sign that he will cover Rocchi, so he can move in front of him. The space behind Javier was all clear. It was very well seen in other replay.
Those 2 things make me just a one big LOL for the 6.0 rating from Gazzetta for Javier(who is a legend, but lets rate fair), the same Lucio got, while Chivu received 5.5
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FIF Special Ones10 years of FIFhaha that final freeze frame is perfect when I teach my philosophy of defense to my U-16 team. I believe that there should be 3 defenders in the center third (if you divide the field longways into thirds) at all times. Normally I would want Lucio to pull in, but he cannot as there is a player he must watch on the outside. The player I would have been screaming to get back...? Thiago Motta. I would have yelled at him to drop to cover the space left by Cambiasso when he left to challenge.
This is just my defensive philosophy, so I am sure there are others that will think differently...
This is just my defensive philosophy, so I am sure there are others that will think differently...