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SMELLS LIKE ANOTHER POLI AROUND HAHA DID MORATTI TAPED HIS PHONE LINE AND FOUND OUT MANCHESTER PAID HIM LOL:rules:

wtih all the fake ass penatlies u got this season u shouldn't be talking :lol:have fun in the uefa cup:boogy:
 

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SMELLS LIKE ANOTHER POLI AROUND HAHA DID MORATTI TAPED HIS PHONE LINE AND FOUND OUT MANCHESTER PAID HIM LOL:rules:

a milanista talking about fair play:howler:

go ask berlusca and baldiani about it;)
 

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I dont get why he starts Rivas who has what 2 games this season under his belt with Chivu someone he playd one game with..... did I miss something or did cordoba do something to mourniho?

We need a to get better midfielders during the transfer season
 

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Let's hope for another great performance by JC(how great he should be?) and goal from somewhere.
My god.
 

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I dont get why he starts Rivas who has what 2 games this season under his belt with Chivu someone he playd one game with..... did I miss something or did cordoba do something to mourniho?

We need a to get better midfielders during the transfer season

that was my thinking as well. Mourinho perhaps doesn't understand what a stalwart cordoba has been in the past for inter, and rates rivas based on the time he has been here and seen them practice.

but the decision was questionable, as was the decision to put Santon up against Ronaldo, but he handled it pretty well considering his age and experience. Rivas was bad but ultimately not bad enough because we didn't concede AND THAT IS GOOD, mostly thanks to JC (and our other savior, Julio).

if da nerazzuri never concede it goes to penalties at the worst. the CL takes luck and so will Ol Fraf, but F it were not in bad shape.
 

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We need a to get better midfielders during the transfer season

We do not need to elevate our midfield play that much overall, considering Cambiasso and JZ's workrates today. We only have tough guys who are not creative. I respect the inclusion of park in the lineup for United. Trying to beat us at our own game, Park has always been good against Italian teams.

Muntari struggled certainly, this was not his game. It shows that the 3 (ande a half?) defensive midfielder approach can grow stagnant, especially against quick teams.

But ultimately not too vulnerable on the counter, because, again, WE DID NOT CONCEDE>
 

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well other rivas mistakes and ridicolous freekicks (candalejo:frustrat:) they didnt have good scoring chances, except for ronaldo's header.

let's hope wally is ready for the next game. and that the ref isnt a pussy
 

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No away goals conceded is an advantage. If you score then the other side needs to score at least two. It isn't a big advantage but it is an advantage. First time in 3 or so seasons we haven't conceded an away goal.

nil-nil is not an advantage when we are playing home first round.
 

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He wasted 60m€ in the summer, hasnt made us better at all, using what Mancio build not anything he created himself. This team doesnt Mourinho's fingerprint on it at all.

He hasnt made a single improvement at all, in fact we are scoring less and creating even less than we did with Mancio.

You want to give him another year to screw the team even more and waste another 60m€?

We are wasting money on this overrated tool, highest paid coach in the world, for what?

Obviously its too expensive to sack his "special" ass, but if he chose to leave himself, i would personaly drive him to the airport.

Then why were you happy that he'd take over Mancio's job??? Please explain
 

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Why is everyone so pissed? I don't get it you guys are a bunch of babies...fuckin pussies I am ashamed you support my team.

Ibra and Adri had very little support, we were playing with 10 men because Muntari didn't show up today. We outplayed them in the 2nd half 0-0 is the right result.

Now we go to OT tie 1-1 and we're through.

Btw, Man Utd strikers were way worse than ours if you noticed.

Thank you! Finally a post that makes sense! You people need to stop listening to that idiotic Asslicker and start using some common sense.

Manchester United played without Vidic and came to the San Siro to DEFEND! We were without Samuel and did not CONCEDE!! I don't care where the fuck we play but with Sammy and Chivu/Cafe we still have a great defense! And with JC we can be godlike!

If we scored 1 fucking goal at OT and they will need 2!
 
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Then why were you happy that he'd take over Mancio's job??? Please explain

Because he's a PMSing idiot who doesn't know what he wants. And prefers to see Inter lose than win.
 

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Thank you! Finally a post that makes sense! You people need to stop listening to that idiotic Asslicker and start using some common sense.

Manchester United played with Vidic and came to the San Siro to DEFEND! We were without Samuel and did not CONCEDE!! I don't care where the fuck we play but with Sammy and Chivu/Cafe we still have a great defense!

1 fucking goal for us and they need 2!

Also, look at how Santon pretty much contained Ronaldo. In the next game when Rooney starts he's see so much less of the ball and it will be much easier for Santon.

My problem mainly is that out of the whole game I may be blind but I saw United have more chances and in the first half they didn't seem like they were trying to defend....and both O'shea and Evans were not 100% and our strikers didn't do anything except that 1 chance that Adriano should have drilled into the goal.....

I don't think Inter played a bad second half but I think that there is a flaw in the game that must be fixed in order to win CL....You can't deny that for a team with such high caliber we play very very slow....Whenever Zlatan or Adriano got the ball (I don't think any of them played bad) there was nobody moving very quick off the ball to help out....even when we get the advantage on the counter attack they manage to drop back fast enough before we manage to attack.....

They didn't have to play so defensively in order to not concede, we should have done more during the game...

Can we make it through?? Yes this is football and nothing is impossible we can always score that away goal, but will it be easy??? No Inter have to give it their all and give 200% and my only fear is that if they couldn't do so in front of 80 thousand fans at the San Siro at home will they be able to do it in Old Trafford where Manchester are extremely powerful and have a full squad by then.........

This leg it was our game to lose and we managed not to concede (Which alot of us believed we would end up conceding), but in the next leg it's our game to win and for that to happen we need to play levels above what we showed today.....that's the message I'm trying to get out
 

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Man Utd. came to the San Siro and did not score. That's all that matters. This means that for us to go out they need to score more goals than us. All we need to do is start off with a attacking tempo and try to grab a quick goal.

I just re-watced the game and we had chances whilst Utd. had set pieces. Yet an Ass comes here saying that they're on a different planet.

We started off the game terribly but as soon as Jose had their team talk we came out like a team reborn. I'm sure Jose will properly prepare our players for this game. We will play much better especially is Vieira hits match fitness. Something tells me, we can win this game. Have faith in your team. Stand by your coach and team!

Also, the A guy said were did worse today than against Liverpool at home. Since when is a 1-0 defeat when you need a 3-0 victory to go through better than a 0-0 draw?!
 

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we need viera for the second game let's hope this fucking mercenary plays one good game with the millions he is taking

cesar saved our asses tonight
 

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Man Utd. came to the San Siro and did not score. That's all that matters. This means that for us to go out they need to score more goals than us. All we need to do is start off with a attacking tempo and try to grab a quick goal.

I just re-watced the game and we had chances whilst Utd. had set pieces. Yet an Ass comes here saying that they're on a different planet.

We started off the game terribly but as soon as Jose had their team talk we came out like a team reborn. I'm sure Jose will properly prepare our players for this game. We will play much better especially is Vieira hits match fitness. Something tells me, we can win this game. Have faith in your team. Stand by your coach and team!

Also, the A guy said were did worse today than against Liverpool at home. Since when is a 1-0 defeat when you need a 3-0 victory to go through better than a 0-0 draw?!

I'm not on the Azz bandwagon, atleast I hope I'm not coming off like I am on it....but Utd. had much more than set pieces in the first half they got some 1on1's with the keeper which they missed and some balls that passed our defense and if their attack was a bit more responsive they could have put in the net.....In the second half we dominated most of the game which was great but really we didn't threaten them much except on maybe 1 or 2 occasions (Adriano miss-kicked a ball, Cambiasso chesting it but not being able to get it into the net) while they managed to get another 1on1 (Rooney) which could have been very dangerous had J.Cesar not stretched that extra inch......

can you honestly claim Inter outplayed Man Utd tonight??? I think that no one in his right mind can say that but people could claim Man Utd played the better game and I would have to agree that away from home they played an almost perfect match and what stopped them wasn't the Inter defense nor the Inter midfield nor the Inter pressure it was J.Cesar and J.Cesar only...

My problem is that it wasn't like Man Utd were parking the bus and not letting us score....they played with 2 defenders who weren't fit and still attacked at times which means that they weren't afraid of the Inter attack and they had every right not to be very fearful because our attack is just too slow it's very static...I never ever believed that our attack is as static and slow as what some people on this forum claimed but today it showed so much how whenever we'd get the ball just outside the box it's like we don't know where to go with it....Thus our chances of scoring are very low meaning we need to be very accurate....but that's not the case we always manage to miss easy chances like the one Adriano should have 100% put in the back of the net.....

2 things I don't agree with you one is you say that they didn't score and that's the most important thing...I would agree with you have our defense managed to completely shut down their attack just like we almost did to Milan and what we did to Juventus....But that wasn't the case here our defense was vulnerable and every attack they had seemed threatening and we gave them too many free kicks in dangerous places that had Ronaldo been more accurate he'd have drilled one in....

Another is that you say that next game we should attack early on and get that early goal as if it's easy and we're capable of doing so......They will more or less have the same team except with Rafael/Neville and Vidic included in the defense while their midfield will be very similar with probably Rooney instead of Giggs......Our speed cannot cause them that much damage that they'll have to pull back...they can easily counter attack us and especially if they use Rafael+Ronaldo on the right they'll overwhelm Santon who even though has shown me amazing stuff is still inexperienced and rightfully so....

I'm not saying Inter will lose in fact I never go into any game thinking Inter will lose even after the 1st leg of liverpool where we needed 3 goals to go through I believed in the team and always will believe in them.....but I think that we can't just tell ourselves we're the best when we clearly have flaws we must acknowledge these flaws and try to work around it since no team is perfect...

Even if we do beat Man Utd which i hope we do.....How can we work on our tempo in a way that causes us to be much faster when we have the ball and move without the ball in such a way that opens up the play for the ball-holder and gives him passing/shooting opportunities or the chance to run in with the ball.....
 

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After reading all your analysis i had different opinions and mixed ones. But i certainly support MY team which is INTER and i dont think we as fans have to let the team down. I mean even if we are not present at the stadium we should be the one who in WIN and LOSS stand beside our team.

Regarding to this game I saw a really poor Inter in the 1st half. Why? I think mentally we were afraid of them and we had pressure and i prayed that the game would finish 0-0 so Jose would change things around. And in the 2nd half it happened things changed and Jose brought on Cordoba instead of Rivas which obviously was a poor choice in my opinion.

Now i dont think you want me to tell you how the game went cause u all saw it, but there are few points that i would like to discuss.

1. Saying that if Inter fails to get through the round is a failure of Jose than i think that is really wrong. Because Jose did impact our team and that is Discipline something that was lacking over here for a loooong time. Jose also is good at protecting his players and many other things that make him successful at Inter for the 1st season. I am pretty sure we will again take Scudetto at home but as for CHL we need time, and i really hope we go through the round but we need time.

2. Our team has some attacking problems. In SerieA we are too strong and you can not compare Bologna with MAN U but we have too many defensive midfielders and none of them have creativity. Moreover, we are slow as a team and beside relying too much on Ibra we also expect too much from him.

I think these are 2 main factors four our CHL cycle because we get too much pressure for some reason and we expect too much in a player that doesnt have the speed of KAKA or MESSI or RONALDO to run through the opponents but it does have the unexpected magic but for that magic to function it really needs to have some support from midfield and that is what lacks at Inter today.
 

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My 2 cents.

I knew Rivas sucked, I don't know why so many of you had hopes for that guy, he gave away almost all of our free kicks, and he has no pace. 10 minutes in the match I knew at half time he was going to get subbed by Cordoba, I told my friends that.

Ibrahimovic fucking raped O'shea all game long lmfao......

Zanetti/Cambiasso, I love these guys.

Muntari needs to learn how to pass, if he's a midfielder he should have some vision at least.

Maicon, seen him play way better.

Adriano, tripped over his feet twice, he should've had 2 goals man come on wtf, also getting held by Ferdinand, should've had 3. Seriously.........

Evra hand balled like a mother fucker, that ref is a deusch bag.

Ronaldo played good 1st half and didn't do shit 2nd half, Ibra was really good.

Cordoba is the man, and I hope to see him with Samuel at old trafford.

Santon did pretty damn good for his debut I'm not going to lie.

Personally, I think the problem was Rivas. Rivas sucking dick simply made it that Zanetti and Stankovic had to come back and help defend, that usually isn't needed with Cambiasso and Muntari was helping Santon which is normal. I can't believe Mourinho started Rivas over Cordoba, if we played all game like the 2nd half we would've dominated and definitely eventually scored.

But now it's behind us, and they'll have Vidic next game, and hopefully we will have a partnership of Cordoba and Samuel, but Manchester United are strong at home, let's hope that we play like we did in the 2nd half the whole game next time.
 

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I'm not on the Azz bandwagon, atleast I hope I'm not coming off like I am on it....but Utd. had much more than set pieces in the first half they got some 1on1's with the keeper which they missed and some balls that passed our defense and if their attack was a bit more responsive they could have put in the net.....In the second half we dominated most of the game which was great but really we didn't threaten them much except on maybe 1 or 2 occasions (Adriano miss-kicked a ball, Cambiasso chesting it but not being able to get it into the net) while they managed to get another 1on1 (Rooney) which could have been very dangerous had J.Cesar not stretched that extra inch......
What about the wrongful offside on Ibra (he would have and should have been 1on1 with VDS, Adriano's two botched shots, we had the chances.


can you honestly claim Inter outplayed Man Utd tonight??? I think that no one in his right mind can say that but people could claim Man Utd played the better game and I would have to agree that away from home they played an almost perfect match and what stopped them wasn't the Inter defense nor the Inter midfield nor the Inter pressure it was J.Cesar and J.Cesar only...
Never did I claim that. I simpy gave you watch I remembered from the game. Manchester's only shots on goal came from set pieces. And no I don't think they played a perfect match. Sir Alex tried to out smart Jose but in the end failed. He deliberately started Ronaldo on Santon's wing to keep pressure on Davide and Davide had a great game on Ronaldo. And they didn't have a the perfect game as they are technically trailing in the tie.

My problem is that it wasn't like Man Utd were parking the bus and not letting us score....they played with 2 defenders who weren't fit and still attacked at times which means that they weren't afraid of the Inter attack and they had every right not to be very fearful because our attack is just too slow it's very static...I never ever believed that our attack is as static and slow as what some people on this forum claimed but today it showed so much how whenever we'd get the ball just outside the box it's like we don't know where to go with it....Thus our chances of scoring are very low meaning we need to be very accurate....but that's not the case we always manage to miss easy chances like the one Adriano should have 100% put in the back of the net.....
I see it totally different. Man U did apark players in front of the goal. They beat us down to the field and had 9 guys defending each time we attacked, which is why Ibra was always triple teamed.

2 things I don't agree with you one is you say that they didn't score and that's the most important thing...I would agree with you have our defense managed to completely shut down their attack just like we almost did to Milan and what we did to Juventus....But that wasn't the case here our defense was vulnerable and every attack they had seemed threatening and we gave them too many free kicks in dangerous places that had Ronaldo been more accurate he'd have drilled one in....
Fact is they didn't do anything against a horrible showing from our WORST defender. Next game we will have our BEST defenders and hopefulyl a good ref who won't bloe each time that stupid bitch Ronaldo falls.

Another is that you say that next game we should attack early on and get that early goal as if it's easy and we're capable of doing so......They will more or less have the same team except with Rafael/Neville and Vidic included in the defense while their midfield will be very similar with probably Rooney instead of Giggs......Our speed cannot cause them that much damage that they'll have to pull back...they can easily counter attack us and especially if they use Rafael+Ronaldo on the right they'll overwhelm Santon who even though has shown me amazing stuff is still inexperienced and rightfully so....

So why didn't their counter attacks lead to a goal when we were attacking in the second half?! I'll answer it for you: Zanetti! This guy is a machine and if he can't stop the attack he'll slow it down long enough for us to get back in position like he did today,

I'm not saying Inter will lose in fact I never go into any game thinking Inter will lose even after the 1st leg of liverpool where we needed 3 goals to go through I believed in the team and always will believe in them.....but I think that we can't just tell ourselves we're the best when we clearly have flaws we must acknowledge these flaws and try to work around it since no team is perfect...
No one is saying we're the best. Today showed that. But when a guy comes here and claims to be an Inter fan and revels in our short comings and talk the biggest load of shit I have ever seen I just can;t stand by with out adding my own input.

Even if we do beat Man Utd which i hope we do.....How can we work on our tempo in a way that causes us to be much faster when we have the ball and move without the ball in such a way that opens up the play for the ball-holder and gives him passing/shooting opportunities or the chance to run in with the ball.....
We don't need to up our tempo. All we need to do is to play OUR game with our own tempo, like we saw in the second half. I don't care what anyone says. No team can play at a quick tempo for 90 minutes, Man Utd. certainly didn't show that they could, today or in any match I've seen them play.
 

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About tempo I don't mean that we play fast for 90 minutes I don't think that it's our style of play anyways....What I noticed is that we're never fast enough like we never move quickly enough to build a play......Zlatan wasn't shit in this game like people claim he's been but it's just that he never has people opening up for him you know what I mean...I feel OUR game needs to be just a bit faster I'm not saying I suddenly want Deki and Adriano and Zlatan to move as fast as Henry-Eto'-Messi do but I just want them to get into the box or around the goal faster than they currently do......

and Zanetti was a monster today and immense he always has my back on this forum and yes he did help us on the counters but they were missing some quality players that would help them more mainly Rooney starting and Rafael...

And about Ronaldo he mainly plays on the right side of their attack (this season) in fact I thought he might play on the left to stop Maicon and Santon did great to contain him big ups to him....
 

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I thought we were really good in the 2nd half until we swtiched to a 4-3-3. We were definetly the better team had Rivas and Muntari not played like crap.
 
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