Inter - Milan (14 Nov 10)

edi_interista

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Sure let's play the game WHICH STARTED 3 HOURS AGO with this formation after it ended.

Very good timing indeed.

Well thats what i thought before the match and thats what i think for the next match! Never in my wildest dream i thought that matrix will play his first match of the season, cordoba will play right back and santon is gonna be benched(again!), i just know that fucking chivu is gonna play left beck(Why tf is he still there?). the rest you know
 

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:lol:Imo it was 100% penalty,you cant even doubt about is seriously.If it was dubious i would admit it but come on,Materazzi kicked Ibra to the ground from behind,clumsy challenge period.


Look at 29 seconds.
 

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oh i forgot my biggest hope for the next match! Inter starts with new coach on the bench!
 

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that angle does look dubious, but still a penalty
 

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It's pointless to discuss about penalty or anything similar after this kind of display.
 

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There.
 

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shit we're 5th now but hey this is just the beginning enjoy your moment at the top milan inter will be back:interflag2:
 

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You are retarded.

Right so having the eyesight to see the grass between and nobody having a picture of contact being made makes my IQ lower than that needed to be classified as retarded.
 

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Okay, no denying tonight was a shocking result, but we need a reality check.

We have literally HALF of our first team missing: Cesar, Samuel, Maicon, Motta, Cambiasso (half fit Sneijder) and an out of sorts Milito. I think that any team in the world would struggle with half of their team out. For example, Chelsea, they have missed Lampard and Essien recently and lost 2-0 to Liverpool and 3-0 to Sunderland...its difficult when a lot of your key men are out injured. We need to bounce back from this, the season is far from over, 6 points is easily catchable in over 6 months! I mean did Roma not catch us last season when they were about 10+ points behind? Yes, well we can catch Milan. Take Ibra, Silva and a couple of other key players out of milan team and they'd be struggling. I think everyone needs to reserve judgment on Rafa until he actually has a full team to pick from, and has signed a few players and has his own stamp on the team.

Sensible.
 

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Well that was terrible. For a number of reasons:

-The starting line up. Why have Materazzi and Lucio as your CBs when your playing a high defensive line? Materazzi was torn apart by Djibril Cisse in pre-season, why put him up against Ibra? The penalty came because (a) Ibra was too quick for Matrix and ran off him, and (b) Matrix is an idiot.

-Starting Matrix. Does he add passion to the team, sure. Is he useful in the air against strong attackers, sure. Is he a good defender? No. He's a liability, even more so in tense games. Look at the tackle he tried to lay on Ibra when the Swede elbowed him in the head? One of the two was getting hurt there, Ibra did well to defend himself. Materazzi should've retired last season.

-The formation. 442 with four CBs? Where is your width coming from? Chivu is a subpar LB at the best of times, Cordoba tries his best but his dribbling and crossing leave alot to be desired. Santon hasn't been in great form, but he was only given one game. Talk to the kid, show some confidence in him and he might re-pay the faith.

-The Milito-Eto'o combination. Something isn't right here. First off, Milito is playing like absolute dog shit but I kind of accepted that. The lack of interplay between the two is whats concerning and at times it looked like Eto'o didn't want to pass him the ball. Some tension over being moved back to the wing to accomodate Milito upfront? Either way, it needs to be sorted.

-Zanetti in midfield. Its over (under Benitez anyway). LB, RB or nada. His passing ability is just getting worse and worse. Probably didn't show up as much last season, but this new style of play in which we (supposedly) pass it around more it becomes more clear. I really hope he hasn't made a mistake by playing on as well.

-Too much pressure on Coutinho. He's playing an awful lot for an 18yr old rookie. He definitely improved our game though.

-Goran Pandev. He's just not very good. Who knew?

-Subbing on Biabiany at the end. This kid is all about speed, which makes him borderline useless against teams which defend deep. Why bring him on when Milan are defending with 9 men? Santon has much better close control, has experienced a derby atmosphere before and is just as effective a crosser. Madness.

-Another muscular injury. Obi didn't have a world cup or a long season last year to attribute it to. Thats just bad luck.

-Distinct lack of passion from our players. Motivational whiz at the helm or not, the players should be amped for the derby. I dunno, I didn't get the impression they got going until about 30 minutes in. The first 30 minutes were all Milan, and tbf it could've been 2-0.

-Milan have learned to defend. This game reminded me of Inter last season tbh. No space between the defence and midfield, giving the opposition all the time on the ball the want but setting up an impenetrable wall across the 18 yard line. Even Abate and Antonini played well.

Which brings us to Rafa the Gaffa. Sacking him now probably wouldn't be the best idea, but something needs to change. This year I reckon we've played five above average teams: Roma, Atletico, Juve, Tottenham and Milan. In seven matches we won two, drawn one, and lost three. Thats really not good enough. What's more we don't look like winning. At no point today did we ever really scare Milan. Nor did we scare Tottenham. Nor did we scare Roma. Maybe Juve got a bit of a fright, but that was still a very even game. As for the wins, we almost blew it against Spurs and Roma handed us the Coppa.

I don't think the players are responding to Rafa's methods at all. Mourinho (allegedly) told Moratti that Beni wouldn't do well at Inter, perhaps it was because he knew he was too different a personality for the players to respond to? Last year we we're pumped for big games, the players went out and played with purpose. Mou had the team amped up by instilling an us against the world mentality, convincing the players they were the underdog. When Benitez arrived he said he preferred to by calm on the sidelines and have the players play with the same intensity all the time. Thats fine, if that intensity is still around 100%. If the players are playing like shit, then fire the fark up!

I'm not a huge fan of the style of play either. We've played some sexy football sure, but we're not able to turn it on against big teams. Whats the point in pumping Werder and Bari if you go scoreless against Milan, Roma and Juve? Give me results over entertainment any day. Benitez should've looked at our squad and ruled out a high possession game with a high defensive line. I cannot believe how terrible our defence is compared to last season. Rafa was reknowned as a defensive coach, yet he's completely ruined our greatest assest from the past.

He hasn't been helped though. Far too many injuries for the team to get some stability (whether these are due to training methods or a hangover from last season, we'll never know) and he wasn't supported at all in the transfer market. All our arrivals were signed before Rafa, so no one is here by his choice. This is a problem. I cannot believe that Moratti and Branca didn't learn from the mistakes of Milan who let a CL win paper over some obvious cracks in the squad. Whats more, we didn't replace Balotelli who was a very important player for us last season. Oh how we could've used him (or a player like him) in the past three matches.

I'd give Rafa till January atleast. MM should start putting feelers out to other managers. See if anyone is interested/available, maybe get an idea of what they might do to improve the team. Keep it as quiet as possible. Rafa can stay on providing (a) he's able to get us out of this rut, (b) we qualify for the KO rounds and (c) we win the CWC. If he's able to do that much then he deserves to see out the season. The club must be active in the January market though. A new CB, a winger and (on the proviso we get rid of Muntari) a new, more technical central midfielder. Two of the three would be ace. By seasons end, re-evaluate where we're at and how much improvement has been made. Minimum requirements should be set at: CWC ,2nd or high in the league, quarters of the CL and 2nd in the Coppa. Given how we look atm, I'd be stoked with that
 

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Another angle

matrixstupid.jpg


Very clear
 

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Okay, no denying tonight was a shocking result, but we need a reality check.

We have literally HALF of our first team missing: Cesar, Samuel, Maicon, Motta, Cambiasso (half fit Sneijder) and an out of sorts Milito. I think that any team in the world would struggle with half of their team out. For example, Chelsea, they have missed Lampard and Essien recently and lost 2-0 to Liverpool and 3-0 to Sunderland...its difficult when a lot of your key men are out injured. We need to bounce back from this, the season is far from over, 6 points is easily catchable in over 6 months! I mean did Roma not catch us last season when they were about 10+ points behind? Yes, well we can catch Milan. Take Ibra, Silva and a couple of other key players out of milan team and they'd be struggling. I think everyone needs to reserve judgment on Rafa until he actually has a full team to pick from, and has signed a few players and has his own stamp on the team.

I guess you didn't watched all our games this season. The whole game concept is totaly wrong, from the begining of the season.
 

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Fucking hopeless, at this rate we will be lucky to qualify for Europa League. Once again what was Rafa thinking? Answer: who the fucks knows. Playing 4 CBs at the back, and a midfield with zero penetration and all graft, as I suspected the man was more concerned with saying his own hide and avoiding a loss (which he couldn't even do anyway the useless prick) then actually trying, to you know... win this game.
 

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To be honest I am starting to coach myself to have calmness and a peace of mind instead of being angry...because thats what I need with benitez in charge..:p
Im not in the mood of posting a long story and showing my frustration...but seriously...

A treble winning team...

Benitez...

Atletico, juve, roma, milan,

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5th

and ow yeah, before I forget...the famous Benitez speeches:

"we're having progress.."
"we have a lot of injuries"
"Bale is very fast, like racing a volvo against a ferrari"
" We have bad luck"
" Bla bla bla"

Anyway, goodnight my fellow interisti,

lets hope we get well soon;)
 

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It was a penalty.. End of discussion.. The penalty is not the reason we lost the game!
 
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