Inter - Roma (5 Oct 13)

[Dylan]

Out of Napoli, Juve, Roma and Fiorentina we have the easiest run of games coming up so they are bound to drop points along the way up to Christmas.

 

[German_Interista]

Roma, Napoli and Juve are currently better than our team. Lazio, Fiorentina and Milan are on our level. It will be hard to get the third place, but it is possible, with a lot of luck :work:

 

[Wobblz]

Easy guys. We aren't title contenders after 7 games for some and now we're battling for 3rd place tops somehow?! Come on. No one expected Roma to perform so good after selling Lamela, Marquinhos and Osvaldo (esp having a Serie A newbie as coach) but they do. Predicting what's going to happen isn't as easy as you guys make it, otherwise half of the fucking forum would live on the Bahamas with money made out of betting.

 

[Ed.]

Juventus won 4 points from ref. If those wins were not given, Juventus is now behind us. They didn't play good at all vs Chievo and Torino. They also didn't play good vs us, only thing happened in that game, we let them to score and we became nervous with them. At this stage, I'd say we're on par with Juventus.

We could actually improve a lot. We just need our back up to catch up with the starting XI and gel the starting XI with the bench. When Ranocchia played alongside Hugo, you can see his confidence. That confidence disappeared in Cagliari game vs Rolando. I don't know what happened in Roma.

Juan has been good but he also needs to stop brainfarting.

Guarin could be a beast, we all know he has that skills, but how he utilizes it is the problem.

Taider still looks lost at some games, he needs to gel with the team asap.

We definitely need a cover for Cambiasso, I hope Mudingayi could help as I see Mazzarri doesn't even think about Kuzmanovic anymore.

Kovacic as I have said before needs to improve his games and become a team player because so far his dribbling has not created many chances.

Icardi needs to learn more than becoming a stick pole to deflect balls into goals. He needs to move, open spaces, even create chances. He has that potential but he needs to work on it.

We have seen Belfodil at Cagliari, he has the skills, he works hard, the problem he doesn't connect with the rest very well.

Of course, most important thing is that we need WBs to properly cover Naga and Jonathan. To buy new WBs in January would help but the new WB would need some time to adapt to the system as well, so I'm hoping for JZ to come back asap to cover them and Pereira is a lil hopeless but doesn't mean he can't improve. As for Wallace, I'm afraid Mazzarri just thinks that he is a loan only, so why should he play him as much.

There are many things we could or must work on to improve and it's important to remember that football is not won by who have the best player in the team but how effective and efficient the team works to win games.

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Easy guys. We aren't title contenders after 7 games for some and now we're battling for 3rd place tops somehow?! Come on. No one expected Roma to perform so good after selling Lamela, Marquinhos and Osvaldo (esp having a Serie A newbie as coach) but they do. Predicting what's going to happen isn't as easy as you guys make it, otherwise half of the fucking forum would live on the Bahamas with money made out of betting.

We're 4th in the standing. What do you have to say that you don't need to chase the third spot in front of you?

 

[Mino]

what can i say , shit happens .

 

[Devious]

 

[Dylan]

The fuck do they get paid to do?!

 

[Bzzlightyear]

We know it shouldnt have been Penalty, it looks like the same way that Napoli won a penalty outside the penalty

 

[Ronaldo]

We don't need to start losing hope after just one loss.

Juve took their last season's 3-1 defeat to us as a wake up, let's take this game as a wake up call for us. With the international break its the perfect opportunity for us.

 

[wera]

We don't need to start losing hope after just one loss.

Juve took their last season's 3-1 defeat to us as a wake up, let's take this game as a wake up call for us. With the international break its the perfect opportunity for us.

That's cute.

The problem is, that we don't even play that good. We have possession but don't know what to do with it, and we have serious problems with overdepending on certain players....since, well, forever. And we really need to get better at free kicks/corners, cuz that's what we could do better, especially with players like Frog and Campagnaro in the box.

Juve got their shit together after the Inter loss, yeah, that's true. But why didn't Inter got their shit together in the second half of the season? Same in this season - we won't just get up and play amazing football. Roma plays great and it's no shame to lose against them. But it is shame that we just can't find the best midfield that our squad can offer. I'm sure it isn't Taider-Cambiasso-Guarin. But I'm not sure about Mudi, Kova or Alvarez either.
I'm sure we can win Torino, but I'm not sure that in the long run, our squad is capable of performing good enough for top3. Midfield needs to start bossing. And we mustn't stop playing after we score. I don't know why we lose concentration so much

Mazzarri will be stubborn and keep doing his shit, and I respect him for that. I know he knows that his formation, gameplan and all that works for him. And I know that we have to keep playing with 3 in the back since our midfield still isn't as good as it should be, no matter which coach we have. Sometimes they cover in defence quite nicely, sometimes they are horrible... so let's see

 

[Mad Biscione]

Just read the three news papers GDS CDS and Tuttosports in a Website
Today our three Nerazzurri Players have their Saying on the tabloids, Updating their Quotes before the roma match in My Next Post.

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GDS- Guarin-
“If I score I won’t stop. Yes, it’s true I haven’t scored since February 21, but I am calm because my history is clear: if I break through, more will come. The gesture towards the fans against Fiorentina? I was upset with my performance. Mazzarri told me that he wants my potential to explode. His best quality is the motivation that he is able to transmit. I am close to this jersey, to wear it I said no to Juve.”


Tuttosports- Belfodil-
“Roma, I know how to beat you. Ramadan is more important than football”


CDS-Milito-
“Roma I will stop you” Exclusive interview with the Inter striker.I don’t fear the Giallorossi. Even thoug totti is great"

This all all about pre-match quotes I got
The guys are looking Quiet Confident about Beating Roma. Isnt?

 

[HolyNoob]

I have to say, I think for us to make top 3 is reliant on one of Napoli, Roma, or Juventus to have a DISASTEROUS spell. I dont expect it from any of the 3 teams right now.

Roma and Juventus are good. But I have doubts of Benitez's Napoli. Benitez teams are always inconsistant. I think they will start dropping points in Serie A, like the match vs Sassuolo. And hope that they will be drown in the Champions League / Europa League.

 

[Mnassar]

I'm not a regular visitor here, does this guy always do the TLDR holier than thou rant in poor English after every game? 2nd time I see it in as many games.

Yup.



Worst type of 'fan'. One loss and you're showing your bitch colours.

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Would you say that to his face or are you just being an asshole on an internet forum? That's a horrible thing to wish, no matter who it is (in football)

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It's because he doesn't play like a Serie A club, Roma remind me of spanish 4-3-3 right now. Kudos to them, maybe Totti and De Rossi will finally get their scudetto.

 

[Devious]

That's just wera. nobody gives a shit about what he says so nobody gives him thanks usually. That's why he's been whinning for removing the 'thanks' feature from the forum.

Just, next time you see a wera post, just scroll down mate.

 

[pencilpal]

Don't know how I didn't notice this post earlier, so here goes.

Cambiasso has shown to be capable as a starter depending on the opposition. Against a qyualit fast counter-attacking team he's almost completely useless though. Roma have actually played more of a possession based game for most of the season, but Rudi Garcia out-thought Walt and literally let us have the ball, and that has always been a weakness of Mazzarri teams. Napoli were often frustrated by teams that gave up the ball and just hit on the counter as the whole overloading in wide areas isn't that effective against teams that defend in numbers. What's worse is with our lack of speed we're never comfortable against good counterattacks.

The fact is that we lacked productivity on the ball and we should've adopted a distinctly attacking approach to this game. It was clear as crystal that this match wouldn't result on the ball, and that Pjanic and Strootman would filter the attack to their focal point (in this case Totti).

Mazzarri got his tactics completely wrong. It is true that his sides typically struggle against counter attacking teams, but I think we had the resources to win this match.

Cambiasso's presence is similar to that of a CB in the midfield. Just breaks up play, but is largely unproductive in its distribution. Worse yet, Mazzarri surrounds him with aggressive box to box midfielders with no creative prowess.

Tbh I would've played Taider out of position in Cambiasso's berth, with Kovacic and Guarin above him, and if we keep conceding, change to a more offensive tactic. Roma's defence isn't very strong, especially with players such as Castan, Balzaretti, and Torosodis in their back four. What makes them effective is their defensive and offensive persistence, continually pressing the opposition and pouncing on oppurtunities to send the ball to either Pjanic or Strootman.

Imo we should've really focused on pressing those two players. That way the link between the offence and the defence would've been broken, and they would be very unproductive and desperate on the ball, trying to figure out a way to get the ball to the likes of Totti or Florenzi.

I agree that Pereira is beyond useless right now, but I do get the feeling that it's largely a confidence thing.

I don't think he is suited to a wingback position or role in a team, and I don't think his performances will improve tbh. He's shown his poor decision making time and time again, and tbh his value will likely depreciate in the coming years, so I'd sell him now.

I personally feel that Nagatomo and Jonathan are good enough to be starters against most teams. They deserve to be trusted based on their form so far this season, I certainly wouldn't mind an upgrade on both, but good wingbacks aren't that easy to come by.

Statistically speaking, Nagatomo and Jonathan have been great. But judging by the quality of their performances, considering the opposition they've come across, I really think we need an upgrade, ESPECIALLY if we are serious about challenging for 3rd place this year.

Making that investment would be worthwhile tbh; Milan spent 20 million on Balotelli last year which was offset by the CL revenue they received from reaching that 3rd berth in the league. We need to take a similar risk, because I don't think we currently stand much of a chance against the likes of Juventus, Napoli, Roma, and even FIorentina and Milan considering the quality and depth of our squad and the simplicity and repetitiveness of Mazzarri's tactics.

Also, anyone getting on Nagatomo's ass today need to remember that he is a LB or LWB, but he was forced to play on the right. It simply doesn't suit him

Actually Nagatomo's naturally a RB. He was converted to a LB here at Inter, given Maicon's presence on the right in 2011.

 

[wera]

That's just wera. nobody gives a shit about what he says so nobody gives him thanks usually. That's why he's been whinning for removing the 'thanks' feature from the forum.

Just, next time you see a wera post, just scroll down mate.

:trolldad:

 

[crzdcolombian]

Roma, Napoli and Juve are currently better than our team. Lazio, Fiorentina and Milan are on our level. It will be hard to get the third place, but it is possible, with a lot of luck :work:

Agree but your being realistic as not many are on a team fan site

I think Fiorentina has a better roster then us as well. We got lucky that Milan is even broker than we are, Udinese has 0 ambition, and Lazio just lost Klose.

For us to compete with Juve or any team to compete with them we need a stadium and stop having crazy wages/loyalty to players who never play !!

 

[Ed.]

i dont get the logic we need a stadium to compete with juve.. complete bullshit.

 

[Wings]

Some Zonal Marking analysis

http://www.zonalmarking.net/2013/10/08/inter-0-3-roma-totti-drags-inters-back-three-out-of-shape-to-prompt-quick-attacks/

Cambiasso's presence is similar to that of a CB in the midfield. Just breaks up play, but is largely unproductive in its distribution.

I know Cambiasso is far past his peak, but surely you have the dignity to refer to him as 'his' and not 'its'?

Actually Nagatomo's naturally a RB. He was converted to a LB here at Inter, given Maicon's presence on the right in 2011.

Nah, he played LB for Cesena and was Japan NT's first choice LB before Inter signed him.

i dont get the logic we need a stadium to compete with juve.. complete bullshit.

You're trolling, right?

 

[Ed.]

You're trolling, right?

In the very right mind, no I was not joking or trolling at all. The competition with Juventus does not depend on whether we have a new stadium or not. Stadium is related pretty much on the economical side of football. The fact that owning a stadium will have a positive impact is hugely arguable. I have always mentioned it that the most important thing Inter need is someone who can lead and manage with a brain. Regardless the amount of money, if a club is managed well, then it will become competitive. If we own stadium and let's say we earn big sum but we spend them on useless players then what? Does a new stadium guarantee you a football star will arrive to Inter with a reasonable price and salary?

I didn't say that owning stadium is a bad thing, it is necessary from economy point of view but it stays there, it has no impact to our gameplay. A new stadium will not make Cambiasso 10 years younger. A new stadium will not make Pereira to stop brainfuck. A new stadium will not give additional 10 points so we can lead the table. The top 2 clubs in Serie A so far do not own stadiums. Hellas Verona has no money nor stadium but has done as good as Fiorentina.

Last but not least, and I have to mention this..

With their own stadium, Juventus still need helps from referee to win games.

So, does Juventus stay competitive because of the stadium? No. It's the referee and to some extent, their management.