Luciano Spalletti

[DS92]

There is no point in changing coach, but Spalletti's lack of moves over this past two month are inexcusable. He's been touted as one of the best manager in Italy but last two months he's been completely lost like every other coach since the treble.. He doesn't want to change the system, only change he makes is switching our 'fullbacks' and he refuses to bench Perisic and Brozo even after his captain calls them out for lack of effort. And benching Cancelo last night, woah, I don't even know how to describe that.

He has to make some moves, he already had to but didn't, remove Brozo, Perisic, the worst fullback in history of the game D'Ambrosio (how is this guy making a living as a professional footballer is beyond me) and Candreva from the starting line up, change the system, try out some youngster, just do something..

Yes, Inter is a huge mess, had been for almost a decade now, but that doesn't mean that Spalletti shouldn't take his part of the blame. I see that in the media he admits he is wrong but his decisions on the field doesn't reflect that(that he is wrong because he just does the same thing over and over again). Two point against SPAL and Crotone is just an embarassment. And if he continues with the same starting eleven we won't win any points in the 'easy' games to come..

He is the coach and his job is to get the most from the roster he has and he's not doing that at the moment. At this moment we are the worst team in the league and with the roster we have we should be able to win against Crotone at home.

 

[hitmax]

Your analysis is skin deep - we need to get into why has Spalletti lost confidence? Why is someone known as a good coach suddenly looking lost? Infact I predicted posts like these when Spalletti had joined and everyone here was jizzing in their pants - I had said that within a year some fans will be blaming Spalletti and would want him sacked. It was an easy prediction, because this has happened many times before. Fans want a scapegoat, at Inter its usually the coach. Pep Guardiola could become our coach, and the same cycle would repeat.

You must also understand that coaches are not chameleons i.e. most top coach cannot adapt their style to a random group of players, not successfully at least. There may be rare exceptions, like for any rule. But even Pep and Mourinho, two of the most successful coaches of our times, they have a distinct style of play and need some specific type of players to make it work. It does not mean they need their every wish, but they need those 2-3 quality players who can convert the team to their style.

Now lets come back to specifically the Spalletti situation. For e.g., we all are aware of one player Spalletti asked for - someone like Nainggolan or Vidal. That was critical for his system. The club fucked up big time there, because Suning decided not to invest. It looks like Spalletti signed up for #InterIsComing, and after he joined the budget vanished. We can speculate about other players Spalletti wanted, its likely there were 1-2 more quality players in his list apart from the Nainggolan-Vidal-type. If you ask for someone like Nainggolan and you get Mario, what results do you expect?

Like some coaches before him, Inter have set Spalletti up for failure. Maybe he is looking low on confidence because a whole lot of promises made to him have been broken, he has a wafer thin squad with some players who are not suitable for his tactics. Maybe its some other reason. You can talk about sacking Spalletti, but we all know every well that that path only spirals downwards. I repeat, Pep Guardiola would suffer the same fate at Inter if Suning don't support him. Spalletti is not a De Boer or a Stramaccioni, we know we got a coach with quality here. One of the rare occasions Inter have got the right coach. The problem lies elsewhere.

please dont support spalletti blindly. he wanted vidal and other big players but believe me we dont need top players to beat crotone and spal.in the preseason he told press i will talk if promises wont kept and before the game he said i wanted cb and they gave me lopez so he seems happy with squad that he has and must fix this fucking winless trend.

 

[Matrix_invincible]

It seems that there isnt any coach out there who could help us anymore :fffuuu:

Being Inter Coach is probably like having cancer. You cant do shit... you just get worse...

Poor Spaletti

 

[.h.]

until he has the balls to drop candreva and perisic we're going nowhere tbh.

 

[Matrix_invincible]

Spalletti can do shit...

Perisic is an inconsistent fucker who has the ability but not the moral to carry us... Candreva is a cow and Icardi relies on them.

We dont have a trequartiste but rely on a 33 year old...

We need better players up front thats clearly the main point.

 

[Bluenine]

There is no point in changing coach, but Spalletti's lack of moves over this past two month are inexcusable. He's been touted as one of the best manager in Italy but last two months he's been completely lost like every coach since the treble.. He doesn't want to change the system, only change he makes is switching our 'fullbacks' and he refuses to bench Perisic and Brozo even after his captain calls them out for lack of effort. And benching Cancelo last night, woah, I don't even know how to describe that.

He has to make some moves, he already had to but didn't, remove Brozo, Perisic, the worst fullback in history of the game D'Ambrosio (how is this guy making a living as a professional footballer is beyond me) and Candreva from the starting line up, change the system, try out some youngster, just do something..

You think D'Ambrosio is the worst fullback in the history of the game, what does that make Santon and Dalbert?

You think its inexcusable that Spalletti did not bench Perisic, Candreva, D'ambrosio and Brozovic yesterday. Please tell me who he should have started in their place? Please assume that Rafinha cannot start yet because he hasn't played for almost a year - starting him will be risking serious injury. Please post your line up here, and then assure us that you wouldn't criticise Spalletti if that line up lost 3-0.

I would take your point if we have players like Bernardeschi on the bench like Juve do, or even El Sharaawy and Schick like Roma. We don't. You cannot replace those four players with one little kid called Karamoh.

My only criticism of Spalletti's line up yesterday was that Cancelo did not start. There could be a logical reason behind it, maybe he wasn't feeling well. But if there isn't, you could blame Spalletti for that. You cannot blame a coach for not starting untested teenagers - not if you expect a win. I can understand some posters here who want Perisic and Candreva benched as a punishment, and we don't mind if that comes at a cost of a few points - maybe something drastic needs to be done. But please don't say that we dropped points because Spalletti did not bench half his team, we don't have that kind of luxury in our squad.

 

[Matrix_invincible]

The problem is that the people working for Inter are just too stupid.

The only good midfield transfers we had (Kovacic and Coutinho) were sold for 43 millions!!!! Gagliardini and Vecino on the other hand cost us about 50 millions.

BUT instead of buying Gagliardini and Vecino we could just have kept players like Benassi and Duncan who arent worse than Gags and Vecino at all. BUT we would have still had those 50 millions!

So to summarize: We "donated" our best midfielders to small clubs like Real and Liverpool (lol), we never counted on our own youth and instead we bought average players, who are much worse than the donated ones, for more money.

And NOW we have a 33 year old, 2 average guys, a brain fuck and Rafinha.

How is that even possible??? And why am I Inter Fan?

 

[.h.]

oh for gods sake

like kovacic has been on to be a great star since?


truth is we have some decent players - the mentality is fucked, and that starts with the captain.

the dressing room is toxic, people have seen nagatomo, dambrosio, santon become our longest serving players, and there's no pressure on them to perform.

its not a problem of quality - if we bring in a bunch of quality they're going to be impacted by the same mentality issues.

We need to fix the mentality and that, to be blunt, starts with stripping out the big characters and long time players at Inter. I've no problem with people like Valero, Vecino, Gags, etc, provided we wrap them in the right environent.

 

[DS92]

You think D'Ambrosio is the worst fullback in the history of the game, what does that make Santon and Dalbert?

You think its inexcusable that Spalletti did not bench Perisic, Candreva, D'ambrosio and Brozovic yesterday. Please tell me who he should have started in their place? Please assume that Rafinha cannot start yet because he hasn't played for almost a year - starting him will be risking serious injury. Please post your line up here, and then assure us that you wouldn't criticise Spalletti if that line up lost 3-0.

I would take your point if we have players like Bernardeschi on the bench like Juve do, or even El Sharaawy and Schick like Roma. We don't. You cannot replace those four players with one little kid called Karamoh.

My only criticism of Spalletti's line up yesterday was that Cancelo did not start. There could be a logical reason behind it, maybe he wasn't feeling well. But if there isn't, you could blame Spalletti for that. You cannot blame a coach for not starting untested teenagers - not if you expect a win. I can understand some posters here who want Perisic and Candreva benched as a punishment, and we don't mind if that comes at a cost of a few points - maybe something drastic needs to be done. But please don't say that we dropped points because Spalletti did not bench half his team, we don't have that kind of luxury in our squad.

-Santon is trash and we haven't see enough from Dalbert to rate him properly.
-I said Spalletti's lack of moves are inexcusable, not the thing you wrote. But if you want, D'Ambro for Cancelo, Karamoah for Candreva, Rafinha for Brozo. I have no idea who should replace Perisic but he must be benched to send a message, he's not even trying anymore. Change the to system without classic wingers if you have to, but do something to shake up the team.

I didn't said that we are this bad just because of Spalletti but you choose to ignore that to fit your agenda. What I did say and you can read again my post if you missed it that he is not the only problem but he has to take the part of the blame. He shouldn't be untoucheable just because he is Luciano Spalletti.

Maybe Karamoah, Rafinha and Cancelo won't bring us victories but you have to send a message and that message is that it doesn't matter how big of a name you are if you don't try on the pitch. And some players just stopped trying and that is unexaptable.

If you're only problem this last two months are not starting Cancelo (and you even try to justify that) then we don't have anything to talk about. I won't post any line ups, I'm not the coach, I don't spend time with the team every day, but one thing I will say, and I've said it like five times in two post, change something. You can't just watch your team performing this bad. If we criticized Mancini, Mazzarri and all other coaches, I don't see why Spalletti should be above that. He was praised for the first part of the season and he should take part of the blame for the last two month. If the way we've been playing the last two months is acceptable to you, then again, we don't have anything to talk about.

Maybe those changes won't bring us desired result but I just want to see the will to turn this dire form around, that's all I ask. If it fails, it fails, but at least he would show that he cares about this club.

 

[JJM]

How you can go from 1-16 round winning almost all the games to 16-20and smth round not wining a single game...
They forget how to football
No...when shit goes tough and rough our pussy players go hide...was this way since...after the treble when the fantastic four left(Milito,Cuchu, Samuel,JZ)...little frightened kids with a shit attitude...no spirit to fight hard
Only...Handa,Skriniar,Miranda,Icardi have guts to do their best,all the time,not some of the time...the others are just doing their job it seems,not giving more when it gets heavy...
I'd say Valero gives his all too but he is getting old and too slow...but he deserves better players in mf with him

Cancelo-LL-Miranda-Dalbert
------Skriniar-Borja
-----Rafi--------Brozo
--------Eder/Karamoh
----------Icardi

4-2-2-1-1 is a well balanced formation
With Cancelo and Dalbert overlapping on the wings as they can run all day...
Do it Spallo!
Stop with the 3 turds...who are...

Vecino,Candreva, Perisic were beyond irreparable yesterday,shocker of a game from them... against Cro fucking tone

Also ...Dumbo was horrible as well

Stop with the untouchable effect Spallo!
It makes us weak! Perisic thinks he can do what he wants and suck baws out there ans still play...NOT fair!
Rotation keeps things competitive... everyone knows this except Spallo or what?!
Hire me as Coach ffs...

Im losing it...

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[ScottishInterista]

Funny how in the last couple games "have all been on Spalletti", when does he actually change

 

[Nyall]

We all have seen this exact same shit go on for years now and you guys think this is on Spalletti?


Was it Spaletti's fault when we lost twice Novara back in 2011/2012 under Gasperini?
Was it his fault when we went over a month without a goal and even longer without a win that same season under Ranieri?
How about when we went a month without a win in the following season under Strama?
Or even the next season, when we went 6 weeks without a win under Mazzarri?
Was he at fault the season after that when we were so bad that a couple months in that we sacked Mazzarri?
Is Spalletti at fault for us last season when we went on not one but two extended spells of poor performances under De Boer or Pioli ?


We all saw what these players were capable of of in past seasons, did little to actually address that (even went as far as rewarding some of them with pay raises and contract extensions). This is on management

 

[Quantum]

Folks, most of this is on management for assembling a thin squad and keeping mediocrities like Nagatomo and Ranocchia for way too long.

Having said that, Spalletti has some of the blame because of his decisions in our recent poor form. Benching Cancelo for no good reason is a prime example. Look how slow and uninterested we were against Crotone when we were 1-0, and look how we were suddenly playing with urgency after they drew. You can't blame that on management. Even if it's a mentality thing, shouldn't a coach instruct his players to not play lazily when they're narrowly winning? Isn't that also a part of a manager's job?

Doesn't mean I want him gone. But if we play slow, repetitive football over and over again and can't get results out of that, it means the coach is not addressing the issue properly.

 

[Bluenine]

My point is that we don't give our coaches the type of players they need to make their tactics work. One reason is because we change our coaches so often, that the new coach inherits players who just don't work in a system. The other reason is that we often ignore the coach's priorities or don't have the budget for it.

Spalletti joined Inter under the promise of #InterIsComing, a big budget to get him some specific type of players (like Nainggolan) who make his tactics work. That just did not happen. Mario ain't that type of player. Infact I remember Spalletti was furious when Kondogbia left and wasn't replaced - one of the few Inter players that actually fit into his tactics. While we all would like to see Perisic & Candreva benched as a punishment, I don't think any of us actually believe that Eder and Karamoh will make much of a difference in their place. This shitfest isn't Spalletti's fault, in a way Inter have set him up for failure.

Thats why I would bet even Pep Guardiola would flop at Inter. We would not give him any of the players he needs, and then blame him for not adapting his tactics to suit Brozovic & Co.

I blame Suning, they need to be held accountable for #InterIsComing bullshit. When they decided not to invest this season, they should have set the expectations accordingly.

 

[A.l.i]

Upto the management to decide now what to do. Stick with Spalletti or not. We are still somehow holding onto 4rth.

 

[DS92]

Pep Guardiola would surely fail at Inter, you can't play his brand of football without top-notch players in every position.

There is no decision for the management, we have to stick with Spalletti and give him 2-3 seasons because there is no better manager available. And even if there was, he would need a massive budget to overhaul our squad, and that ain't happening. I don't think Inter has any other choice but to stick with Spalletti and give him time and some money to rebuild the club from the bottom. That still doesn't mean we shouldn't be criticising him if he's doing badly.

 

[Nyall]

My point is that we don't give our coaches the type of players they need to make their tactics work. One reason is because we change our coaches so often, that the new coach inherits players who just don't work in a system. The other reason is that we often ignore the coach's priorities or don't have the budget for it.

Spalletti joined Inter under the promise of #InterIsComing, a big budget to get him some specific type of players (like Nainggolan) who make his tactics work. That just did not happen. Mario ain't that type of player. Infact I remember Spalletti was furious when Kondogbia left and wasn't replaced - one of the few Inter players that actually fit into his tactics. While we all would like to see Perisic & Candreva benched as a punishment, I don't think any of us actually believe that Eder and Karamoh will make much of a difference in their place. This shitfest isn't Spalletti's fault, in a way Inter have set him up for failure.

Thats why I would bet even Pep Guardiola would flop at Inter. We would not give him any of the players he needs, and then blame him for not adapting his tactics to suit Brozovic & Co.

I blame Suning, they need to be held accountable for #InterIsComing bullshit. When they decided not to invest this season, they should have set the expectations accordingly.

This is all there is to it.


If the Chinese had actually invested as they said they were going to do with this #InterIsComing bullshit and gave Spaletti a team suited to our objectives we would not be having this discussion.

 

[Harpsabu]

My point is that we don't give our coaches the type of players they need to make their tactics work. One reason is because we change our coaches so often, that the new coach inherits players who just don't work in a system. The other reason is that we often ignore the coach's priorities or don't have the budget for it.

Spalletti joined Inter under the promise of #InterIsComing, a big budget to get him some specific type of players (like Nainggolan) who make his tactics work. That just did not happen. Mario ain't that type of player. Infact I remember Spalletti was furious when Kondogbia left and wasn't replaced - one of the few Inter players that actually fit into his tactics. While we all would like to see Perisic & Candreva benched as a punishment, I don't think any of us actually believe that Eder and Karamoh will make much of a difference in their place. This shitfest isn't Spalletti's fault, in a way Inter have set him up for failure.

Thats why I would bet even Pep Guardiola would flop at Inter. We would not give him any of the players he needs, and then blame him for not adapting his tactics to suit Brozovic & Co.

I blame Suning, they need to be held accountable for #InterIsComing bullshit. When they decided not to invest this season, they should have set the expectations accordingly.

Yes look i understand all this, but we have seen zero improvement over the last 8 games and he keeps playing the same team and basically system. Why have we got so lethargic and uninterested. What are we doing in training? I understand the players have to take a lot of the blame, but when we went 1-0 up why did we go defenaive at home to Crotone? We were sitting back soaking up pressure at home to Crotone. The BT sport commentator said you couldn't have told who was fighting for 4th and who was fighting to avoid relegation. Its been pathetic display after pathetic display. Im not saying we sack him, but he isn't immune from it.

 

[JJM]

yeah I agree...he needs to make some drastic changes tbh,enough of the same old Candreva-Perisic duo fucking every attack up...it doesn't work,they are figured out...so badly that we look like toothless children out there...fielding the same fucking formation every game is lunatic from Spallo,and I'm his supporter ffs...

 

[ElDiego22]

We should all know Spalleti is the biggest choker in Italian football so it's no surprise he is unable to dig us out of this bad run. However, the brand of football is inexcusable. We have players capable of playing better but Spalleti's tactics is cross aimlessly and hope Icardi and Perisic score enough goals to achieve our objective. The fact he plays Candreva despite hauling him off early a couple of times prove he has no idea what's he doing. We still in the CL places and even if we make it, there's no guarantee we will qualify for next season. We need a coach with fresh ideas, somebody like Giampaolo from Sampdoria would be nice.

However lose to Bologna and he's gone. Simple as that.