Marcelo Brozović

[Wobblz]

We need a player with what we thought Vecino's qualities were... before we came to the realisation he has no qualities whatsoever.

 

[K.I.]

We need a player with what we thought Vecino's qualities were... before we came to the realisation he has no qualities whatsoever.

Lampard or Gerrard type player?

 

[Lui]

The only reasonable comparison I can find for Vecino is Kroos, De Bruyne, Isco. It's no easy mission to replace him.

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[n4l]

No. We need true ball playing DM so that we can unlock our CMs to do their jobs fully, without having to babysit the DM.

Fabinho is also one. Forget him (good reminder thatdude). Can defend solo in DM role and can distribute very well.


Brozo can then compete for the CM spot with Barella and Sensi.

 

[JJM]

Tonali and Havertz because with Gags and Politano even as subs... We ain't going far in important games... As we saw yesterday

GdS says that Marotta promised Conte a top midfielder in January because of the fact how good he is doing now...
If we offload GabiG and Borja even easier

So... SMS?!

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[varmin]

Brozo's problem is that he is slow thinker. He needs 2-3 touches before to distribute the ball and when this happens under pressure is an issue. From other hand I'm not sure how effective Brozovic will be as box to box midfielder as despite his decent shooting, he often switching off when gets caught in tight spaces.

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[Jassa]

Guys, I think Brozovic played every game without being subbed out, he was majestic in the first half, both defensively and offensively. He couldnt move in the second half.

 

[wera]

Tonali and Havertz because with Gags and Politano even as subs... We ain't going far in important games... As we saw yesterday

GdS says that Marotta promised Conte a top midfielder in January because of the fact how good he is doing now...
If we offload GabiG and Borja even easier

So... SMS?!

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I don't understand instead of who Havertz would play? And Tonali ofc is one for the future, but clearly yesterday it also showed that we need at least one stronger midfielder that isn't Gags, better wingbacks and more quality in attack as well. But our spine is pretty good so I wouldn't prioritize Tonali unless if we sell Brozo for big bucks and reinvest that cash ..

 

[JJM]

Lukaku/Lautaro
Sensi - Havertz/Sanchez
Asamoah/Biraghi-Brozo/Tonali-Barella-Candreva/Lazaro
...


I think Havertz can play the SS/AM role

Well what Sánchez did yesterday until he got dead tired

Yeah Asamoah got trolled by Messi yesterday... But it's Messi ffs
Anyone can get fucked by him
Defensively he is ok, in attack not so much tho.
Tonali just a rotation option for Brozo for starters... He needs to grow still
Or do this

Brozo-Tonali-Barella/Sensi when one is tired
Gags, Vecino can't play big games... They are just too limited as is Politano sadly
We need better depth options
That fucked us against Barca, well besides moron Skomina

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[Tanel]

Brozovic objectively has been a better football player over the last 2 seasons than Sensi and Barella, yet 2 months of good form for Sensi and 1 for Barella, and suddenly Brozovic is the weak link that is holding the other two down...

Football fans.

 

[thatdude]

Brozovic objectively has been a better football player over the last 2 seasons than Sensi and Barella, yet 2 months of good form for Sensi and 1 for Barella, and suddenly Brozovic is the weak link that is holding the other two down...

Football fans.

It’s about balance in the midfield, not who’s a “weak link.”

 

[Tanel]

It’s about balance in the midfield, not who’s a “weak link.”

First of all it's rushed to say Brozovic is causing some kind of inbalance in a midfield that has played about 5 games together - he is clearly the one that is having to adapt to a new role the most.
Secondly it's rushed to move towards a conclusion that if there is a lack of balance, then Brozovic is the one who is the one that should be replaced - again it is someone who has played very well for us for 2 years and is far more proven at the highest level (Croatia for one) vs guys who have had a couple of strong months.

Thirdly while some might say we need a better defensive player as the anchor, but this would also impact us going the other way - replacing Brozovic would also mean we would lose by a mile the best/most intelligent passing link in the team, Barella and Sensi are good in the passing game but don't have the same strengths as him in this area. If we talk about balance, then Brozovic is providing a lot of it in terms of being the calm element of the midfield and dictating which way we go in our attacks.

And when some say that all the top teams have a more standard defensive midfielder - who of them plays with 3 central defenders?

Whatever problems we had against Barcelona, they started somewhere else. He was bad against Slavia, no doubt, but that underperformance actually came in the attacking department and has a lot to do with the rest of the team not stepping up/adapting to him being constantly closed down by 2-3 players. It was tactically amateurish how we allowed Slavia to get at him, it should've been an opportunity for others to take more ownership of the game.

 

[magnesium]

It’s about balance in the midfield, not who’s a “weak link.”

This "weak link" bring Croatia to World Cup final.

Brozovic is most underrated among this three and never ever can be replaced with other midfielder.

 

[Demokritos]

This is the only player that cant be replaced.
that just showed how good he is.

 

[n4l]

First of all it's rushed to say Brozovic is causing some kind of inbalance in a midfield that has played about 5 games together - he is clearly the one that is having to adapt to a new role the most.

He's caused an inbalance in a midfield since Spallo moved him into "DM" role. We have been playing a distorted, modified V shaped midfield for 2 years + this season.

Secondly it's rushed to move towards a conclusion that if there is a lack of balance, then Brozovic is the one who is the one that should be replaced - again it is someone who has played very well for us for 2 years and is far more proven at the highest level (Croatia for one) vs guys who have had a couple of strong months.

I never said brozo needs to be replaced. He needs to be put as a box-to-box CM. But keeping him in this 'kinda' DM role when he can't hold down the DM role solo means we will continue to run a distorted midfield.

Games at NT mean nothing. They're limited sample size. Opponents don't have enough time or body-of-work to tactically prepare for you. He's playing with absolute world class modric and world class rakitic. Nobody said he's a bad player.

Thirdly while some might say we need a better defensive player as the anchor, but this would also impact us going the other way - replacing Brozovic would also mean we would lose by a mile the best/most intelligent passing link in the team, Barella and Sensi are good in the passing game but don't have the same strengths as him in this area. If we talk about balance, then Brozovic is providing a lot of it in terms of being the calm element of the midfield and dictating which way we go in our attacks.

This doesn't make sense. I already listed quite a few players who are playing solo DM for their teams and are quite adept at being the passing link for their teams. You are creating this illusion that the only player who can dictate the tempo from the DM role is brozo when there are players who can, and who do do it for their teams, playing at a higher level than Inter, and doing it while being very solid defensively and can hold the DM role on their own.

I also think you're overstating brozo's role and understating particularly sensi's abilities. It is very clear from the opportunities sensi comes deep to collect, move the ball around and distribute, that he can do that very, very well. He can slow it down and speed it up. He can play the killer passes wide. He can play the killer through balls. I am almost 100000% certain that if we had to play sensi there permanently, our "flow" will not be missed or messed up at all. It may not be immediate, but keep in mind it took brozo some time to adapt to this role.

We've also seen barella come deep and make some great passes.

The point isn't to put them there. The point is to get somebody like partey or rodri or fabinho or fdj etc who can play that DM role solo. Then we can have brozo, sensi, barella battle for 2 CM spots in a V shaped trio midfield. That will be a far more balanced and uncompromised midfield. It will allow the CMs to contribute more to the attacking phase without worrying about going "out of position" to help out the DM because the DM can't hold it down on his own. The other alternative is to play a 2 DM set (4-2-3-1 etc).

And when some say that all the top teams have a more standard defensive midfielder - who of them plays with 3 central defenders?

How does this matter? This issue was also there with Spallo and 4 defenders. So not sure what you're getting at here.

Whatever problems we had against Barcelona, they started somewhere else. He was bad against Slavia, no doubt, but that underperformance actually came in the attacking department and has a lot to do with the rest of the team not stepping up/adapting to him being constantly closed down by 2-3 players. It was tactically amateurish how we allowed Slavia to get at him, it should've been an opportunity for others to take more ownership of the game.

For sure, I am not looking at any individual game. The reality is, you put brozo under some pressure and he struggles a lot in the only facet he's supposedly good at. So what you're saying is, you pressure brozo and he's out of the game? If others come back to collect and distribute, then what is brozo going to do to affect the game? He cannot and simply should not be that easy to "take out the game".

 

[JJM]

We have a solution at home already apparently
Agoume the 'dam in front of the defence' that might get integrated in the first squad soon as he is doing great in the primavera and Conte is apparently satisfied with the lad's work.
The new Pogba project ... Ok different type of player

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[thatdude]

First of all it's rushed to say Brozovic is causing some kind of inbalance in a midfield that has played about 5 games together - he is clearly the one that is having to adapt to a new role the most.
Secondly it's rushed to move towards a conclusion that if there is a lack of balance, then Brozovic is the one who is the one that should be replaced - again it is someone who has played very well for us for 2 years and is far more proven at the highest level (Croatia for one) vs guys who have had a couple of strong months.

Thirdly while some might say we need a better defensive player as the anchor, but this would also impact us going the other way - replacing Brozovic would also mean we would lose by a mile the best/most intelligent passing link in the team, Barella and Sensi are good in the passing game but don't have the same strengths as him in this area. If we talk about balance, then Brozovic is providing a lot of it in terms of being the calm element of the midfield and dictating which way we go in our attacks.

And when some say that all the top teams have a more standard defensive midfielder - who of them plays with 3 central defenders?

Whatever problems we had against Barcelona, they started somewhere else. He was bad against Slavia, no doubt, but that underperformance actually came in the attacking department and has a lot to do with the rest of the team not stepping up/adapting to him being constantly closed down by 2-3 players. It was tactically amateurish how we allowed Slavia to get at him, it should've been an opportunity for others to take more ownership of the game.

No one is saying Brozovic hasn’t played well for us since Spalletti changed his position. I fully understand that we are talking about two young guys dropped into the midfield that still have a lot to prove. Which is why my point is not that Brozovic has to be replaced it’s that IF we want to play Sensi and Barella we would be better served with a real holding midfielder.

This isn’t a conclusion based off of 5 games, we know Brozovic and his capabilities well. I’ve been saying this since the summer. If Brozovic is going to work at the base of the midfield as a sole DM then the tackling ability and physicality of the 2 in front of him has to be greater then what Barella and most notably Sensi can provide. This doesn’t mean that anyone is a bad player or a weak link. This midfield kind of reminds me of the Kroos - Modric - James one that Real Madrid used until Zidane came in and immediately put Casemiro in front of the defense and moved Modric up.

If we want to play Brozo at the base we need a Vidal/Allan type instead of Sensi or Barella. If we want to play with Sensi and Barella we need a Fabinho type instead of Brozovic. That’s my opinion. In the summer I wanted SMS because I think we could have gotten away with SMS - Brozo - Barella because all 3 can do a little bit of everything but to be honest even SMS - Brozo - Sensi would probably be a little light.

The top midfields in the world still have one player who’s primary job is defensive and yet somehow they still manage to maintain possession and creativity. The two are not mutually exclusive.

This "weak link" bring Croatia to World Cup final.

Brozovic is most underrated among this three and never ever can be replaced with other midfielder.

I’m going to copy some text from my earlier post word for word so there is no confusion:

“Again my point is if we are going to play Sensi and Barella I think we need a true holding midfielder. If we are insistent Brozovic play that position we need a box to box player who’s man attribute is tackling. Maybe that player long term is Barella but I’m not sure that’s his best use and he’s certainly not there yet physically.“

It’s not about who’s a weak link, it’s about balance.

 

[Universe]

We have a solution at home already apparently
Agoume the 'dam in front of the defence' that might get integrated in the first squad soon as he is doing great in the primavera and Conte is apparently satisfied with the lad's work.
The new Pogba project ... Ok different type of player

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Every young, black, French midfielder is the new Pogba.

 

[CafeCordoba]

Brozovic got his second kid today morning. :heart:

 

[Candreva Crosses]

He will have to score against rube because of his second kids honour