Milan Škriniar

[Luka]

with 2 good ball playing CBs, I dont really think we need a third. Remember, it isnt about symmetry, its about balance. With Hakimi as a very attacking wing back, a more traditional CB might be a really good foil for him.

Actually it's the other way around .h. Remember how Maicon was great, because Javier was there filling his shoes when he was roaming forward.

This is the same thing here. Because Hakimi will be bombing forward probably 99% of the time, we need a defender who can cover that wing. That means covering for some dangerous wingers from opposing teams. That means you need speed, you need agility, you need good composure on those 1 on 1. Skriniar does not have any of those. Even when he was monster for us in first season, you could see whenever there is some counter where it's 2 on 2 or something like that and Skriniar is facing some pacey player, it sounded trouble.

We need a defender who is maybe worse (overall) to Skriniar, but is better than him as a RCB.

 

[.h.]

Actually it's the other way around .h. Remember how Maicon was great, because Javier was there filling his shoes when he was roaming forward.

This is the same thing here. Because Hakimi will be bombing forward probably 99% of the time, we need a defender who can cover that wing. That means covering for some dangerous wingers from opposing teams. That means you need speed, you need agility, you need good composure on those 1 on 1. Skriniar does not have any of those. Even when he was monster for us in first season, you could see whenever there is some counter where it's 2 on 2 or something like that and Skriniar is facing some pacey player, it sounded trouble.

We need a defender who is maybe worse (overall) to Skriniar, but is better than him as a RCB.

I think Skriniar needs to improve, dont get me wrong, his concentration and 1 on 1 etc all needs improving, but my point was we dont need a ball playing RCB

 

[Luka]

If Skriniar can improve and be that player, hey even better

 

[rockball]

Why don't we need a ball playing player there? It isn't that ball playing is essential, but is a good to have. Imagine how good the team can be if all 3 CBs can do well with the ball.

It's not a skill that comes at the expense of being good defensively.

 

[CafeCordoba]

It's always more expensive to have many of those traits clubs generally want from a defender. Of course we want defender who is great at defending but also excellent with the ball. That's the dream of every club director and coach.

 

[.h.]

Why don't we need a ball playing player there? It isn't that ball playing is essential, but is a good to have. Imagine how good the team can be if all 3 CBs can do well with the ball.

It's not a skill that comes at the expense of being good defensively.

must haves vs should or could. The must have in RCB, with Hakimi, is a good defender who can cover for him. You dont need a great defender in De Vrij, his biggest focus is to distribute the ball from CB. Bastoni's ball playing skills are a really nice plus, and his defensive duties are balanced alongside Biraghi/Young

 

[Lui]

Skri understands his role and the movements it requires, his feet are just too heavy. You look at Bastoni and De Vrij, they have really nice touch, so it's no surprise how well theyve done.

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[Sqnalkel]

I hate to keep pointing this out, but folks here just don't seem to remember.

Skriniar hasn't been poor since we moved to 3-man defence. He was poor last season too. He has had 2 bad seasons out of his 3 here.

In reality he has been declining since he got his eyes operation, but I wouldn't say he was poor last season, it's just a worrying downward trend.

I feel like he's lost some confidence. He was unbeatable in 1v1 situations in his first 2 seasons. This year he's been a turnstile.
There's probably plenty of valid reasons for this that involve Conte and a change to a back three among other reasons, but I'm going to continue with my irrational belief that things started going downhill when he had Lasik surgery and starting relying on his vision more than his instincts

Fuck, beaten.

I think Skriniar needs to improve, dont get me wrong, his concentration and 1 on 1 etc all needs improving, but my point was we dont need a ball playing RCB

Škriniar is actually a ball-playing CB (though maybe not a great one), he's very good with the ball at his feet, decent dribbler, good passer but he doesn't have the vision de Vrij or Bastoni have which it's why he can't play at the center of the back 3, also his first touch isn't exactly amazing.

But the real problem for him at RCB is that he's not a super fast CB and more importantly he's definitely not agile and sucks at dealing with pacy tricky wingers, but then again if Godín si managing at it maybe he can too.

 

[CafeCordoba]

Yeah, I'd say Godin isn't any more agile or faster than Skriniar. I think it got more to do with the learnt movement and understanding between midfield and RWB. Godin has played recently with D'Ambrosio while we used Candreva quite a lot earlier when Godin/Skriniar didn't shine that much. I think there's some correlation to be found?

 

[Fapuccino]

He's a system player. That's obvious as fuck. You guys should take off your black and blue tinted glasses. He can't play in a back 3. At least not the outter CB roles.

He's good when played centrally. If we're not gonna play him there, we're wasting his time and him ours.

 

[Nero Indigo]

Here’s one sentiment I don’t understand: Skri can’t deal with tricky and pacy wingers? But I remember in his first season here and a bit of the second, he was stuffing Mertens, Coutinho and other goblins when they were trying to blow past him. If this isn’t a sign of some kind of decline or significant dip in form then I don’t know what is. I don’t know what the formation has to do with his man marking skills but this dude was a superb man marker and now he’s just subpar, this is probably a mental thing from all indications so he needs to buck down and turn into the beast he used to be because it looks like another case of the Inter defender sophomore slump into oblivion.

 

[magnesium]

Here’s one sentiment I don’t understand: Skri can’t deal with tricky and pacy wingers? But I remember in his first season here and a bit of the second, he was stuffing Mertens, Coutinho and other goblins when they were trying to blow past him. If this isn’t a sign of some kind of decline or significant dip in form then I don’t know what is. I don’t know what the formation has to do with his man marking skills but this dude was a superb man marker and now he’s just subpar, this is probably a mental thing from all indications so he needs to buck down and turn into the beast he used to be because it looks like another case of the Inter defender sophomore slump into oblivion.

The only question is. When Candreva or Moses going forward, can Skriniar defend a good Winger ? Winger and Striker have different role, objective and skillset.

If you fight against Robben dude, who do you prefer to stop him ? Ramos. Pique, or Ashley Cole ?

Even Skriniar can stop tricky and pacey winger, I still prefer Godin cause his distribution 10x times better than Skriniar.

Skriniar is my favourite player, but i can't deny he was bad this season.

 

[brehme1989]

I stumbled upon the real reason he's been frozen out.

He's been liking Icardi's Instagram pictures!

 

[Wings]

I stumbled upon the real reason he's been frozen out.

He's been liking Icardi's Instagram pictures!

Give it a rest.

 

[.h.]

formations etc aside, i'll be gutted on a personal level to see skriniar leave. I hope whereve he goes, they see him for peak skriniar, not 3-at-the-back-Skriniar. He could be the bedrock for Barca or Man City or Man Utd's new defense quite easily, if they were willing to take the gamble.

 

[brehme1989]

formations etc aside, i'll be gutted on a personal level to see skriniar leave. I hope whereve he goes, they see him for peak skriniar, not 3-at-the-back-Skriniar. He could be the bedrock for Barca or Man City or Man Utd's new defense quite easily, if they were willing to take the gamble.

Or Inter, if we acknowledged to play to our squad's strengths...

 

[syrus]

No can't sell Bjorn Lothbrook
He needs to get back to his Viking ways

 

[Luka]

We do. You have to take other things and players into considarion as well, not only Skriniar.

 

[.h.]

Or Inter, if we acknowledged to play to our squad's strengths...

tbh this formation is actually working pretty well for us. mixing it all up to get the best out of skriniar is unfair, considering we KNOW it does a good job for De Vrij, Martinez, Lukaku, Bastoni, Barella, even Sensi, and hopefully Hakimi too.

 

[brehme1989]

Yet it doesn't help Eriksen, Sanchez, Skriniar and Godin who on paper are amongst our top players. So something definitely needs to be looked at, otherwise you're driving the team's potential down.