Palermo - Inter (11 Sep 11)

[dynasty27]

Ironically the result 3-4 kinda conforms Gaspo's system.

 

[Concord]

Fantastic match, yes we lost but it remain beautiful .
I haven't seen inter playing like this since years, very organized in Attack but very weak at Defense. I have said it before and I repeat it again : We will struggle against counter attack teams, unless Gasp find a way to fix it. Palermo is a counter attack professional team. But still 2 goals are the responsibility of Julio , Miccoli 3rd goal from free kick and the 4th goal long shoot.

Do you know what is the real problem? The media is putting pressure on Gasp 3 defense because they hate Inter , now Inter's fans have joined the media attack while they should support the coach to reduce the pressure, its just the first match guys and there are many positive things, many players have shown the quality like Alvarez, Jonathan and Obi.

How is the coach going to work without the support ? Just give him a chance , lets wait and see then we judge.

I still see it a better start than Benitez last year, from a performance point of view

 

[rain69]

Fantastic match, yes we lost but it remain beautiful .
I haven't seen inter playing like this since years, very organized in Attack but very weak at Defense. I have said it before and I repeat it again : We will struggle against counter attack teams, unless Gasp find a way to fix it. Palermo is a counter attack professional team. But still 2 goals are the responsibility of Julio , Miccoli 3rd goal from free kick and the 4th goal long shoot.

Do you know what is the real problem? The media is putting pressure on Gasp 3 defense because they hate Inter , now Inter's fans have joined the media attack while they should support the coach to reduce the pressure, its just the first match guys and there are many positive things, many players have shown the quality like Alvarez, Jonathan and Obi.

How is the coach going to work without the support ? Just give him a chance , lets wait and see then we judge.

I still see it a better start than Benitez last year, from a performance point of view

u r right about two thing.....inter havent played like this in a long time

we have not attacked like this in a while but we havent defended like this in a long long time either.

dont get me wrong i'm all pro 3-4-3 i have always thought we shd use that and may i say also that its my formation on the pro evo...but this isnt pro evo.

secondly we shd all support gasp....at least moratti has giving him trial matches sorta like matches of grace, lol.
he doesnt need more pressure.

however i thing the current inter team is not suited for a 3-4-3 as the engines driving that formation stanko, cambiasso, jonathan and nagatomo where all faulted yesterday. the first two more than the latter two. nagatomo and jonathan didnt fall back as quick as expected (maybe wats expected is in-human maybe not) and stanko and cambiasso just run outta steam quickly, cambiasso isnt quite reliable going forward, stankovic maybe a lil more than cambiasso. therefore i suggest that the present formation most suitable giving the current crop of players is 3-5-2. inter isnt good enough for long passes which is what u get from 3-4-3 but with 3-5-2 there are more chance for short passes and more accurate through balls. plus sneidjer gets to play. (pls gasp tell sneidjer that although he is a genius with short long/lobbed crosses or passes he is an absolute wreck with shots these day and shud leave that to the other team members ).
this formation also cuts the chances of counter attackes as the opponent have less chances of stealing the ball during those long passes. which is how the fourth goal came about and most of those free kicks.

i was quite impressed with OBI and Alvarez.

 

[Sokrates]

It is obvious that the system works in the attacking zone. It would be a shame if it would not work with 4 midfielders and 3 strikers. :rollani:

I give a shit about playing beautiful when you can't win the game.

The most important thing is to win.
The second thing is to do it with a great defence + organization.
The third thing is playing beautiful.

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3-4-3?

If you wanna play with 3 defenders, then let's try this:

Milito
Sneijder - Alvarez
Obi - Cambiasso - Zanetti - Jonathan
Lucio - Samuel - Ranocchia​

 

[Stefan]

Fantastic match, yes we lost but it remain beautiful .

There is nothing beatiful about inter losing and there never will be..:nono::nono:

We gave him lots of chances already. This issue we have seen since preseaso,super copa and now the first league game. Should we continue to just ignore it will we are out of title/cl contention??

 

[rain69]

What a game!!
We started off with a loss. I hope this game doesn't come back to haunt us later.
I tip my hat off to Palermo. They came into the game with the right mentality and determination. They made it difficult for us to create anything in the 1st half. They saw the gap on the left flank and completely utilized it. We did get a lucky goal, I think, and that would've killed off any mediocre team but they came back in the 2nd half and banged in 4 goals.

A lot can be said about tonight's game but I'll try and keep it simple:
1. Inter is far from ready for the season
2. Zanetti can play as good as any center back in the world but we need him in midfield
3. Obi, Alvarez and Jonathan should have an exciting season ahead
4. The young Obi should start more frequently
5 Milito played better than any game last season and he was leading the team upfront.
6. Forlan needs more time. Good link up with Wesley for the goal. Look forward to more of that.
7. Inter has an extremely attacking squad
8. Sneijder will have a lot of options and outlets this season. He should lead the league in assists
9. Zarate has no defensive contribution to offer
10. Cesar really needs to focus. That 4th goal was just unacceptable.

Now for the 3-4-3 system. It exposed the team too much. We gave Palermo too much space and we ended up giving away too many free kicks outside the box. If this continues, it'll lead to quite a few sending offs this season.
Gasp should really wait until he has all the right players available to use this system if he's so adamant in using it.
The system could work if the defensive organization were better. We ended up with last ditch defending far too many times.
Offense wins you games, Defense wins you championships. Championships are decided by games like these.

Looking forward...and as always,
Forza Inter!

10. Cesar really needs to focus. That 4th goal was just unacceptable. i've bin saying this to myself since copa america......this guy is loosing focus....and then he goes and says some rubbish like "i blame myself for those goals or i felt like walking back to milan after letting those goals in or i thot it was my brother on goal not me"......dude is washed up. castelazzi wud b better imo. let he re-discover his motivation. its called tough love.

 

[J zanetti]

From the zonalmarking chap:

Palermo 4-3 Inter: Gasperini’s 3-4-3 exposed

 

[blackmore]

Serie A: Palermo 4-3 Inter, Gasperini’s formation issues sink the Nerazzurri
What a match! Goals galore and end to end action, a perfect evening’s football for the neutral fan and jubilation for the Palermo fans. The trouble is I’m neither, I’m Interisti and for me there was nothing perfect about our week 2 fixture at the Stadio Renzo Barbera, in fact if I’d written this report straight after the game it would have just been a page full of offensive words aimed at Gasperini, luckily though after a nights sleep I have managed to calm down enough to write this without resorting to insults.
First off i’d like to say that everything I’ve said in previous articles about giving Gasperini a few weeks to prove his 3 man defense does work, FORGET IT, last night proved to me without a doubt that it does not and will not ever work for us! The attacking side of the formation worked great (once Sneijder was on the field!), but the defence was non existent with Miccoli and Hernandez breaking them down every chance they got. This of course was Gasperini’s 2nd competitive match in charge of Inter and more importantly his 2nd competitive loss, not to mention the poor performances during pre season, so it’s not surprising many Interisti are losing patience with him already.Where did it all go wrong in Sicily?

First half – ​

There was a bad feeling about this match from the second the lineups were announced and it became clear that both Pazzini and Sneijder were starting on the bench, with a 3-4-3 formation lining up on the pitch consisting of Lucio, Samuel and Zanetti in the back line, Nagatomo, Stankovic (who was playing his 300th game for Inter), Cambiasso and Jonathan making up the midfield and an attacking trio of Forlan, Milito and Zarate up front, 3 of the starters making their league debuts for Inter.Straight from the whistle Palermo were attacking putting Inter on to the back foot, and 5 minutes in Miccoli crossed the ball in for Hernandez, but Julio Cesar got his timing perfect to come off his line and punch the ball away. 7 minutes later he was called in to action again as Ilicic dropped a long pass in to the far post area and he managed to out jump everyone else in the box to clear the danger. Things got even more hair raising for Inter on the 14th minute when Cambiasso’s foul on Miccoli gave them a free kick in a good position which Cesar saved low down without to much trouble, by this point Inter were looking in real trouble with no organisation across the pitch and Palermo running rings around us. In the 19th minute the Rosanero broke again as Hernandez was picked out by Miccoli and looked to have a clear run to goal only for our Captain Zanetti, who is in his 17th season for Inter, to fly in from the left to put an end to the run. Inter were being run ragged by now, myself and probably every other Interisti in the world were just waiting for Palermo to take the lead, even on the rare occasion we did get to make an attack our players were looking anything but dangerous, with Forlan not really having an influence on the left and Zarate was terrible on the right, the promising ex Lazio man not warming to the fans with his bad debut, but we shouldn’t be too hard on him yet as he’s young and I think a lot of the trouble last night was down to nerves.Then on the 33rd minute something happened that no one was expecting, Inter scored! Completely against the run of play we managed to get a corner that Stankovic got on the end of to shoot from distance, which to be fair was probably going wide but it reached ‘El Principe’ who was just onside in the 6 yard box and managed to get a touch on it to divert it in to the back of the net, Tzorvas didn’t stand a chance and the Nerazzurri were 1-0 up. It is worth noting that up until now Inter’s most attacking player was Lucio who made several runs out of defence in to the oppositions territory and taking up the role of playmaker, the only other Inter player that looked threatening to this point was one of the players on his debut and probably the surprise of the match for me, Jonathan, who was showing great vision, trickery and movement up the right wing. After the goal though Gasperini had seen enough from Zarate and he came off to be replaced by the man who should have been on the pitch from the start Wesley Sneijder. As soon as the Dutchman was on the field Inter’s attack completely changed and instead of looking lost and disorganised as they had for the majority of the 1st half, they now looked threatening. But again in the 42nd minute Miccoli got a chance on goal that Samuel luckily got an intervention on allowing Julio Cesar to block to safety. After a minute of injury time the 1st half came to an end and despite their 0-1 lead Inter had spent most of the half chasing Palermo. By this time the fans were calling for a change to the formation before any damage was done by Palermo, and we all hoped Gasperini would bring something else for the second half.

SECOND HALF -
To my disappointment Gasperini’s men returned to the pitch exactly as they left it and it only took 3 minutes for us to get punished for it, when substitute Acquah (who came on for Della Rocca after the break) played a deep ball to Miccoli who yet again beat our defence and Julio Cesar for the equalizer. Cesar subsequently received a yellow card for complaining about an unseen foul in midfield as the Palermo move built up. Soon after Milito had another chance to put the Nerazzurri back in front only to see Migliaccio intercept it with his arm, amazingly the referee Brighi seemed to ignore the offence that should have earned the Rosanero player a red card, much to Milito’s and everyone else’s disgust, though he could not ignore the foul on Samuel in the box not long after during an Inter corner by Silvestre, resulting in a clear penalty which Milito calmly put away for his 2nd goal of the evening.Our celebrations were short lived though as just 3 minutes later Hernandez broke though our increasingly shaky defense to put the home team level again. This was the point for me that should have screamed to Gasperini to do something about the defense but whether through being stubborn or just plain stupidity the only change he made was to bring on Obi in replacement for Nagatomo in the 61st minute when we gave away another free kick in which Miccoli tested Cesar, who cleared the danger with a great save. 5 minutes later Ilicic got away from the Nerazzurri defence again and tried to wrong foot Julio Cesar with a shot at the nearpost but the Brazilian shot stopper managed to somehow stop it with his leg. The 71st minute saw Gasperini make his 3rd and final change by taking off another defensive player in the shape of Cambiasso to replace him with attacking midfielder Alvarez, to be fair to ‘Ricky’ he played very well in the central midfield position but in my opinion it put our struggling defence under a lot more pressure. This became even more evident when a foul by Samuel had the Sicilian team screaming for a red card after his earlier yellow with Miccoli taking the resulting free kick that forced Cesar to punch the ball away. In the 86th minute the Rosanero seemingly put the game to bed thanks to a great free kick from non other than Miccoli. But the scoring hadn’t finished yet and Pinilla took an audacious 20 meter shot that the Inter keeper only saw as it hit the back of the net, making it 4-2 to the home side. Inter though never gave up and kept on pushing until the very end when in the 91st minute Sneijder found Forlan in the center, who put away his debut goal to make it 4-3, this sadly wasn’t enough for Inter to save face and after another 3 minutes of injury time Brighi called an end to a bitterly disappointing night in Sicily for the Nerazzurri.

Palermo 4-3 Inter (HT: 0-1)
Scorers: Milito 33, 51 (pen.), Miccoli 48, 86, Hernandez 54, Pinilla 43, Forlan 90+1.
Referee: Matteo Brighi (Cesena).
Booked: Samuel 27, Julio Cesar 48, Zanetti 59, Acquah 61.
Added time: 1+4 minutes.
Lineups

33 Tzorvas; 31 Pisano, 3 Silvestre, 8 Migliaccio, 42 Balzaretti; 90 Alvarez, 5 Barreto, 7 Della Rocca (46 Acquah), 72 Ilicic (69 Bertolo); 9 Hernandez (74 Pinilla), 10 Miccoli.
Unused subs: 99 Benussi, 2 Mantovani, 4 Cetto, 16 Zahavi.
Coach: Devis Mangia.1 Julio Cesar; 6 Lucio, 25 Samuel, 4 Zanetti; 42 Jonathan, 5 Stankovic, 19 Cambiasso (71 Alvarez), 55 Nagatomo (62 Obi); 28 Zarate (34 Sneijder), 22 Milito, 7 Forlan.
Unused subs: 21 Orlandoni, 7 Pazzini, 23 Ranocchia, 30 Castaignos.​

Coach: Gian Piero Gasperini.In my opinion the blame for this defeat lies squarely at the feet of Gian Piero Gasperini, now don’t get me wrong unlike some Interisti I’m not yet saying he should be fired, I don’t even particularly have a problem with him experimenting with his 3 man defence during competitive matches, as it shows things that just don’t come up in training, but the second it becomes obvious it’s not working he needs to change the formation to ensure we are still getting the results needed and unfortunately last night he didn’t do that, he just had one thing on his mind and that was to attack with everything possible and don’t worry about the consequences it caused at the back. If you play with the intention of scoring one more than the opposition to get the win then you have to make sure that’s what happens not giving away needless goals just because you’re too stubborn to change things around.

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Despite everything though there were a few positives, Milito seems to be back on form, his first goal in particular showing that he is still a great poacher playing right on the edge of the opponents defensive line ready to strike when the opportunity arises. One big surprise of the day for me was Jonathan who previously I thought was all hype, proved that he can be a very useful wingback for us and his skill, vision and movement he really did remind me of Maicon at his best. The 3rd positive thing that came from this match is something we all knew any way but Gasperini seemed oblivious to, that for Inter to be successful Wesley Sneijder has to be on the pitch, he has a way of filling his team mates with confidence just like in previous seasons both the Dutchman and Eto’o did. His vision and creativity is crucial for our squad, i’d even go as far as to say he’s the glue that holds our attack together.The one big disappointment of the night besides the result was Zarate, as I said earlier I think that his nerves from playing his Inter debut got to him and he was looking completely lost at times, misreading his team mates intentions with passes and making the wrong runs, but he’s young and it was his first game for us so we can’t write him off yet. Now we must move forward and Gasperini must learn quickly from the mistakes made at Palermo to be ready for our Champions League game against Trabzonspor on Wednesday. Most importantly the results must start coming soon as the fans are already getting restless with Gasperini and it won’t take too many more bad results before Massimo Moratti starts to lose patience with him too.



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