Piero Ausilio

[wera]

Dario don't want kuz here because he isn't a legend like chivu, yo.

 

[Ffi201zi002tlis]

Is there any chance we could get rid of this guy right now? Sacking him alone would be enough to make a success winter mercarto.

Please do it, Thohir. If you don't have any money to sign anyone, then at least sack Ausilio. This guy is giving us cancer, and it worse than what Branca gave us.

 

[Dylan]

So what do you expect to happen after Ausilio is sacked and we make another bad transfer. Who do you want to blame then?

 

[Ffi201zi002tlis]

I don't expect anything good but at least we won't have to read his interview. His interview alone make me want to kill myself, especially his talking about Mazzarri.

I thought no one could make Branca look like world class again, but Ausilio proved that I was wrong. Even FIF members can scout better than him.

 

[WLEXT]

 

[wera]

Take it ez, thank_bot_boy. We known about our money problems, so don't be surprised by deals like that.

 

[Ffi201zi002tlis]

No money is one thing, but our deals are just pathetic. At least clubs like that should try to sign young, unproven players and take risks with them. We signed proven flop instead, and still spend huge money for those flops salaries.

No matter how shitty Branca was, last season at least he managed to sign some good players, Rolando, Icardi Taider, and before that, Handa, Cassano, Palacio, Kovacic (thanks to Cassano's agent mostly).

This year, almost zero good deal. The decent one is Osvaldo, but he got injured too much, and it's just a loan so he could get Rolando+Poli style treatment.

Someone here mentioned Medel as well, but 9Mil for a guy who is worse than 34 years old Cambiasso doesn't sound good at all.

 

[varmin]

No money is one thing, but our deals are just pathetic. At least clubs like that should try to sign young, unproven players and take risks with them. We signed proven flop instead, and still spend huge money for those flops salaries.

No matter how shitty Branca was, last season at least he managed to sign some good players, Rolando, Icardi Taider, and before that, Handa, Cassano, Palacio, Kovacic (thanks to Cassano's agent mostly).

This year, almost zero good deal. The decent one is Osvaldo, but he got injured too much, and it's just a loan so he could get Rolando+Poli style treatment.

Someone here mentioned Medel as well, but 9Mil for a guy who is worse than 34 years old Cambiasso doesn't sound good at all.

Wait a minute. Medel is pure def. midfielder while Cambiasso was CM, not DM. And Branca wasn't limited by FFP regluations as long as Ausilio is. Taider is not good acquisition, as well.

 

[Ffi201zi002tlis]

Wait a minute. Medel is pure def. midfielder while Cambiasso was CM, not DM. And Branca wasn't limited by FFP regluations as long as Ausilio is. Taider is not good acquisition, as well.

Cambiasso was DM, but he also know how to score. Medel and M'Villa combined are worse than Cambiasso last season in both defending and scoring.

And while Taider is not exactly a good player yet, he has potential to be one. Even at the current level, he's more useful than overrated M'Villa, who still has fitness problem after half of the season, and Kuz.

And FFP is just our typical excuse in the last 4 years. This season is not so different. We spent 9Mil for Medel, and 9Mil for Dodo next season. That's ridiculous money considered the current level they are.

 

[I4E]

We haven't paid for Medel yet and certainly don't have to pay for Dodô for another year and a half aswell. ffp is not an excuse for this, it is the reason.

 

[Ffi201zi002tlis]

Dodo deal has obligation to buy which is automatically activated after 1 game, so we have to pay that money. Similarly, we have to pay 9Mil for Medel in 3 years.

FFP is perfect excuse for our management incompetent. If we don't have money, then we have to spend smart. Our management failed to do that, they even signed flop players and give them huge salary. It's just not broke, it's completely pathetic.

 

[I4E]

Ummmm financially the Medel & Dodô moves are smart. The fact that we pay for them in 2 or 3 years doesn't impact us with respect to ffp in the current and/or forth coming season. So they were quite 'competent' moves by management.

Medel & Dodô are a far cry from being considered flops.

 

[varmin]

Dodo deal has obligation to buy which is automatically activated after 1 game, so we have to pay that money. Similarly, we have to pay 9Mil for Medel in 3 years.

FFP is perfect excuse for our management incompetent. If we don't have money, then we have to spend smart. Our management failed to do that, they even signed flop players and give them huge salary. It's just not broke, it's completely pathetic.

So, where Ausilio's fault is, if Tohir doesn't want to spent any cash? And also his moves on the market strongly depend from the coach. As far as i know, Mazzari had wanted Behrami and Ausilio got Medel instead. Medel is better than Behrami, there is no doubt. About Mvila - there is no obligatory clause to buy him, so this is not "flop" move. This transfer is similar to Gargano's move made by Branca. You mentioned Kovacic, but he came here due to Sramaccioni's request, not because of Branca's scouting skills. And alongside with Palacio, Kova, Handan and other guys you've missed the Branca's flops: Pereira, Shelotto, Silvestre, Rocchi, Kharja, Nagatomi, Alvarez, Kuzkuz and the stupid deals - Cassano + money = Belfodil, Snaider to Galatasarai and Kou to Liverpool (despite we got Kovacic instead ). I'm back to last (summer) transfer window. Mazzari had requested for DM (Behrami), striker and wingback. With very limited budget Ausilio completed this task. Osvaldo is our best striker till now and Medel is very good DM. Dodo is average, but still is better than Nagatomi.

 

[Ffi201zi002tlis]

They're not really flops but overpriced. 9 Mil for current Dodo? Yes he's young but we're not sure how he's gonna turn out, and he's not really top prospect to be worth that much. His price is close to Icardi, who's younger and was really hyped before we signed him. I don't think 9 Mil for him is smart.

Medel should be at 5-6Mil if we're smart enough. He's fast and run so much, but his quality is no where near top players level, even the old ones. The fact is he can't cover our defence like Cambiaso did last season, due to his lack of anticipation, leadership and position awareness, although he ran much more than Cambiasso. And both him and M'Villa can't score as well. With 9Mil for him, we have other options:
- Extend Cambiasso's contract for 1 more year, with cheap salary around 1-2Mil.
- Sign Obiang, who has a lot of potential, decent defending skills (not good enough to work as DM though), decent passing, can work with Icardi. Dude has bad season last year as expected from a youngster in a bad team, so his price should be cheap. Now he's good again and not sure if we can afford him in the future.
- Sign Allan from Udinese. He's better than Medel, maybe a little more expensive but really worth it.
- Keep Taider.

Taider or Obiang are not DM, but they both can contribute to defence. Meanwhile we have 2 real DMs and still can't defend, so it's meaningless after all.

And I wouldn't even call them flops. Flops are Vidic, M'Villa. This year the only decent deal is Osvaldo. All the others are from overpriced to flops.

So, where Ausilio's fault is, if Tohir doesn't want to spent any cash? And also his moves on the market strongly depend from the coach. As far as i know, Mazzari had wanted Behrami and Ausilio got Medel instead. Medel is better than Behrami, there is no doubt. About Mvila - there is no obligatory clause to buy him, so this is not "flop" move. This transfer is similar to Gargano's move made by Branca. You mentioned Kovacic, but he came here due to Sramaccioni's request, not because of Branca's scouting skills. And alongside with Palacio, Kova, Handan and other guys you've missed the Branca's flops: Pereira, Shelotto, Silvestre, Rocchi, Kharja, Nagatomi, Alvarez, Kuzkuz and the stupid deals - Cassano + money = Belfodil, Snaider to Galatasarai and Kou to Liverpool (despite we got Kovacic instead ). I'm back to last (summer) transfer window. Mazzari had requested for DM (Behrami), striker and wingback. With very limited budget Ausilio completed this task. Osvaldo is our best striker till now and Medel is very good DM. Dodo is average, but still is better than Nagatomi.

Yes, I already said that Kovacic deal was completed thanks to Cassano's agent mostly. M'Villa is flop because we still have to pay the loan fee and his salary. As I mentioned above, there are other options than signing Medel for 9Mil. He's not flop, but overpriced. Mazzarri is stupid for requesting Behrami, but signing Medel for 9Mil wasn't good at all. At least for Gargano case it was a loan only, so we could return him back. And how can you say Dodo is better than Naga? Naga in his form was much better than Dodo, and I don't even want to see Naga as a starter here.

I don't want Branca back either, because he signed too many flops, that's also the reasons I didn't list his flops here. But out of 10 flops he has 1-2 good deals, meanwhile Ausilio got zero good deal.

The Cassano deal when we signed him was a great deal, trade him for Belfodil is a stupid move. It's typical Branca style, but Ausilio is even worse.

 

[Vincenzi]

Is there any chance we could get rid of this guy right now? Sacking him alone would be enough to make a success winter mercarto.

But if we don't have ausilio, where are we going to find 11 Mazzarris to play for the team? Checkmate, h8rs.

 

[Y&h]

Question..

Why did some of you guys throw the ethics argument (Cerci case) but when Juve or Milan do it on numerous occasions then it's a master stroke? Weren't some of you annoyed with Moratti's 'gentleman' policy with other clubs when we lost a number of affordable yet good players?

 

[Wallace]

Because in reality, people only care about results.

But neither approach is getting us that, or the results that meet people's expectation. Hence, arguments are raised against whatever the concurrent approach is.

 

[Armes]

fifi, the deals don ausilio has done so far with all of our limitations everywhere are nothing short of A+
not to mention that the squad was build for mazzarri. you could argue bad player vs good player (your opinion regardless), but moneywise and what was required of him, he did and overdid. branca was a fuck who had the luxury to play with moratti's pockets everytime - there's a reason he's fired.

 

[bandiera]

how can close to 20 million for medel and dodo be characterized as "good deals"? they were frankly both mediocre deals. apparently we have no more money anymore because of that spending - which makes it all the more ridiculous to justify overpaying for mediocrity in a club that's broke.

i originally thought dodo's deal was terrible because he had done nothing to be worth 9 million (can't defend, can't cross, shit positioning, injury issues, originally balzaretti's backup, benched by fucken romagnoli and toro in nearly all of roma's important games), not to mention that bullshit one match activation clause. ausilio was then coerced by that cunt Vincent Tan into overpaying for a player on a relegated side with no competition.

branca shouldnt be the standard. just because ausilio may be better, doesn't mean he's good. 3 strikers for 2 positions in our longest season since 2010? offering 25 million for fucking thauvin?

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edit; dont forget about "if mazzarri had all his players fit, we would win every match 3-0"

 

[varmin]

how can close to 20 million for medel and dodo be characterized as "good deals"? they were mediocre deals. not terrible, but definitely not good. I originally believed the dodo deal was terrible because he was no where near worth 9 million, not to mention that bullshit clause.

branca shouldnt be the standard. just because he's better, doesn't mean he's good. 3 strikers for 2 positions in our longest season since 2010? offering 25 million for fucking thauvin?

Back then Mazzari had requested for quality DM, who can paly a front of the defense and we got Medel for 9 mln. So, if this is not good deal, i don't know what is?! The guy has done his job more than good and you saw first half against Lazio, our team how was looks like without him. For Dodo , i'm agree, but he is still young and if he learns how to defend properly, he'll worth these 9 mln.