Rafinha

[CafeCordoba]

Haha what a troll offer if true.

 

[Pharaoh]

Barcelona won't be trolled again with a loan and an option to buy

what the fuck are you talking about trolled. Nobody wants Rafinha right now........and since they didn't get Griezmann they have no reason to decline this.

 

[Universe]

Well, Inter is in talks for him now

Thohir about Rafinha and Inter: "It´s not over"


Which means it's over

Inter final offer is loan with 36mil option buy in 15th July 2019.

Think we can do this since we no longer had restriction next season.

Sources for any of this?

I'm not sure how I feel about any of this. I'd love Rafinha back, partly because he's a good player, partly because of the amazing attitude and affection shown towards the club in just 6 months. But I still think €35m+ is an obscene amount. €25m seems more fair in my eyes. Rafinha's status though, really hinges on other departures and arrivals which is why I'm really anxious for the club to get our departures in particular sorted out ASAP.

If Spalletti plays his standard 4231, then I feel he can play in Nainggolan's attacking CM position like he did recently, or in Brozovic's position, albeit to a different style of play, and perhaps as another option as a pseudo winger/wide AM in either Perisic or Candreva's position. Candreva needs to go, I don't hate the guy nearly as much as many here, but no one plays with mules who hug the touchline and cross all day anymore. Even if Malcom isn't signed, I'd be perfectly happy for that position to be occupied by Politano and Karamoh, even though I think neither of them are particularly high calibre players. I don't like to assume, but based on evidence and common sense, Brozovic and Nainggolan have their positions locked for next season. Gagliardini's position/role as the 'defensive' CM is the key to winning the midfield battle and needs to locked down ASAP, either by a Gagliardini displaying his pre-injury form, or by Dembele perhaps.

Valero and Vecino need to be sorted out. I'd prefer if both of them left to be honest. Valero's style of play is arguably the most comparable with Brozovic, and it might be make sense to keep him as a Brozovic-lite, but I'd prefer Rafinha in that role to Valero. Rafinha playing in that role would change our style of play, but I don't consider that an entirely bad thing. For example, let's say our midfield trio is comprised of A (Nainggolan AM/CM), B (Brozovic CM) and C (Gagliardini CM/DM) roles, combining to a "ABC" midfield. What I'm saying is we don't or shouldn't need to always try and achieve a ABC result. We don't need close replicates of A-2, B-2 and C-2. If B (Brozovic) is unavailable, "D" (e.g. Rafinha) should be able slot into that position. Our final make up would be ADC instead of ABC, if you follow, and of course, that would be a team which attacks and defends in a different manner. But any top team needs variety in the way the play and we've sorely lacked variety this past season. Not to mention, our bench last season was just flat out depressing.

That said, I think it hasn't been addressed enough that the player might not want another loan. He wanted to stay here, we declined his option. A month after his loan ended, we didn't make much ground trying to sign him. He and his father came out and said things like "Inter was a great adventure" and "thanks to Spalletti for treating my son well" etc and that now it's time to find another club where he can play. If we come back now and try to sign him again, it doesn't send the greatest message to the player. There's a chance he won't care, and he'll be happy to return, but I believe there's a chance not only Barca, but the player himself will be skeptical about another loan + option. The way I see it, if we're bringing Rafinha back, we'll need a permanent transfer, a loan + obligation, or at the least a sizeable loan fee to convince the club and player.

Summary: Vecino and Valero need to be sorted out ASAP. If they're staying, that's not ideal, but work around it. If they can be sold, do it ASAP and bring in replacements to provide more variety and more options off the bench. But loaning Rafinha again is not ideal (because I don't think it's realistic), nor is paying €36m. It's a tough deal tbh.

 

[Eddie]

Apparently is loan with obligation BUT it'll count as a transfer for the 19-20 season, so we don't have any FFP problems.
they don't need to raise any money for Greizmann now, and rafis desire to stay might make the deal happen.

 

[Ronaldo]

Inter final offer is loan with 36mil option buy in 15th July 2019.

Think we can do this since we no longer had restriction next season.

Football Italia is reporting from Telelombardia saying it is going to be an obligation which I really doubt. I don't think Barca would fall for that again and i don't think we can offer an obligation.

Is any other newsoutlet reporting this?

Inter are reportedly making one last attempt to sign Rafinha from Barcelona, on loan with obligation to buy for €36m.

The Brazilian midfielder spent the last six months at San Siro on loan and made a very good impression, confirming his full recovery from a long injury lay-off.

He has said repeatedly that he would like to make the move permanent, but Inter are blocked by Financial Fair Play issues.

According to Telelombardia, there is one final roll of the dice in the form of a loan with obligation to buy for €36m.

Curiously, the deadline for the purchase would be July 15, 2019.

That is so the sum counts as part of the 2019-20 financial year and not 2018-19.

 

[chipschups]

Football Italia is reporting from Telelombardia saying it is going to be an obligation which I really doubt. I don't think Barca would fall for that again and i don't think we can offer an obligation.

Is any other newsoutlet reporting this?

https://mobile.twitter.com/MLJacobelli/status/1013176763931906048

Yep the news is coming from telebombardia journalist. We definitely cant afford obligation to buy thats why people say its BS since others not reporting that.

 

[Jnr]

Anything 'obligation' is not very popular @ Inter HQ atm. If it happens then the deal will be structured like the Politano option ( maybe even Malcom in the coming weeks) . Maybe Barca will keep him who knows, Iniesta goes to Japan and they'll use him for rotation. In any case , getting Rafinha back and getting rid of JoaoM would be golden.

 

[Il Drago]

Sources for any of this?

I'm not sure how I feel about any of this. I'd love Rafinha back, partly because he's a good player, partly because of the amazing attitude and affection shown towards the club in just 6 months. But I still think €35m+ is an obscene amount. €25m seems more fair in my eyes. Rafinha's status though, really hinges on other departures and arrivals which is why I'm really anxious for the club to get our departures in particular sorted out ASAP.

If Spalletti plays his standard 4231, then I feel he can play in Nainggolan's attacking CM position like he did recently, or in Brozovic's position, albeit to a different style of play, and perhaps as another option as a pseudo winger/wide AM in either Perisic or Candreva's position. Candreva needs to go, I don't hate the guy nearly as much as many here, but no one plays with mules who hug the touchline and cross all day anymore. Even if Malcom isn't signed, I'd be perfectly happy for that position to be occupied by Politano and Karamoh, even though I think neither of them are particularly high calibre players. I don't like to assume, but based on evidence and common sense, Brozovic and Nainggolan have their positions locked for next season. Gagliardini's position/role as the 'defensive' CM is the key to winning the midfield battle and needs to locked down ASAP, either by a Gagliardini displaying his pre-injury form, or by Dembele perhaps.

Valero and Vecino need to be sorted out. I'd prefer if both of them left to be honest. Valero's style of play is arguably the most comparable with Brozovic, and it might be make sense to keep him as a Brozovic-lite, but I'd prefer Rafinha in that role to Valero. Rafinha playing in that role would change our style of play, but I don't consider that an entirely bad thing. For example, let's say our midfield trio is comprised of A (Nainggolan AM/CM), B (Brozovic CM) and C (Gagliardini CM/DM) roles, combining to a "ABC" midfield. What I'm saying is we don't or shouldn't need to always try and achieve a ABC result. We don't need close replicates of A-2, B-2 and C-2. If B (Brozovic) is unavailable, "D" (e.g. Rafinha) should be able slot into that position. Our final make up would be ADC instead of ABC, if you follow, and of course, that would be a team which attacks and defends in a different manner. But any top team needs variety in the way the play and we've sorely lacked variety this past season. Not to mention, our bench last season was just flat out depressing.

That said, I think it hasn't been addressed enough that the player might not want another loan. He wanted to stay here, we declined his option. A month after his loan ended, we didn't make much ground trying to sign him. He and his father came out and said things like "Inter was a great adventure" and "thanks to Spalletti for treating my son well" etc and that now it's time to find another club where he can play. If we come back now and try to sign him again, it doesn't send the greatest message to the player. There's a chance he won't care, and he'll be happy to return, but I believe there's a chance not only Barca, but the player himself will be skeptical about another loan + option. The way I see it, if we're bringing Rafinha back, we'll need a permanent transfer, a loan + obligation, or at the least a sizeable loan fee to convince the club and player.

Summary: Vecino and Valero need to be sorted out ASAP. If they're staying, that's not ideal, but work around it. If they can be sold, do it ASAP and bring in replacements to provide more variety and more options off the bench. But loaning Rafinha again is not ideal (because I don't think it's realistic), nor is paying €36m. It's a tough deal tbh.

I agree. I like Rafinha but i am not sure we should go for him now that we got Nainggolan. I think that they consider Rafinha as an alternative to Dembele. In this case we would have to play Nainggolan deeper next to Brozovic and play Rafinha as an Am which, imo, would be far from ideal. Spalletti mostly used Nainggolan as an AM at Roma. This means Spalletti thinks this is the position where Radja can offer the most. If he changed his position at Inter it would only be a compromise and i am afraid it won't work.

 

[.h.]

We can spend basically all the money in the world once we hit July.

I dont think price is the issue.

Of course we might not be able to register him for the Champions League, but that isnt the end of the world.

 

[chipschups]

@footballitalia
8m
#FCBarcelona have joined the race for Sergej Milinkovic-Savic, offering Rafinha as part of the deal

Well this become complicated if this true lol Barca easily can throw 80mil + Rafinha as leveraged since they dont need him and its win win for Lazio they get Serie A proven player as return.

 

[Il Drago]

https://mobile.twitter.com/MLJacobelli/status/1013176763931906048

Yep the news is coming from telebombardia journalist. We definitely cant afford obligation to buy thats why people say its BS since others not reporting that.

Marialuisa Jacobelli is the daughter of Xavier Jacobelli, editorial director of Tuttosport. I am not sure if she can be trusted. Perhaps we should wait for a confirmation from Sky or Pedulla.

 

[chipschups]

Marialuisa Jacobelli is the daughter of Xavier Jacobelli, editorial director of Tuttosport. I am not sure if she can be trusted. Perhaps we should wait for a confirmation from Sky or Pedulla.

Haha.. they are everywhere. Fuck that.

 

[Dogen]

Marialuisa Jacobelli is the daughter of Xavier Jacobelli, editorial director of Tuttosport. I am not sure if she can be trusted. Perhaps we should wait for a confirmation from Sky or Pedulla.

Even if she's a newcomer to Telelombardia (whose sports director is now writing for Tuttosport... we can connect the dots), it has to be said that Marialuisa Jacobelli was the first to break the "Nainggolan to Inter" news, figures included. She had a source (from Rome or Milan).

Also, Giulia Stronati (she's a student of Pedullà) is beating both his master and Di Marzio to the punch, here and there, regarding Inter calciomercato.

I'm not saying that someone inside/close to the club started leaking juicy infos out of nowhere (especially to Giulia), but they are surely earning their followers.

No ambiguity intended.

Thohir about Rafinha and Inter: "It´s not over"

First: "It's good to be back to CL football. We will aim for the semi-finals".

Then: "If a Serie A club wants Icardi, Inter should ask for 200, 300 or even 400 millions."

And now this.

The closer Thohir gets to take his money and leave, the more "bauscia" he becomes, channeling the vintage spirit of this club.
And I like it. Our president.

(still, hurry up, Suning)

 

[IRR26]

Transfermarkt values Rafinfa 28 million euros. Before Inter loan his value according to them was 15 million euros. I think his true value is somewhere between those fugures and not over 30 million.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/rafinha/marktwertverlauf/spieler/129473

 

[Harpsabu]

Didnt Spalletti use to play two AMs? Nianggolan and someone else behind dzecko. I think he used it that game they beat us 2-0 at san siro

 

[ElDuccio]

Barca dont deserves Rafinha and Rafinha dont deserves to play with clowns like Messi or Busquets.. fuck them

 

[A.l.i]

Well, Inter is in talks for him now

Link please?

 

[ScottishInterista]

If barca were smart they would ask for an option which becomes an obligation if for example we dont get relegated. Its how PSG got Mbappe's transfer fee onto this seasons budget

 

[Matawil]

@footballitalia
8m
#FCBarcelona have joined the race for Sergej Milinkovic-Savic, offering Rafinha as part of the deal

Well this become complicated if this true lol Barca easily can throw 80mil + Rafinha as leveraged since they dont need him and its win win for Lazio they get Serie A proven player as return.

the guy was in joy tears when we won over them why would he accept to move their doesnt make sense at all

 

[CafeCordoba]

But do we still want to pay 35m+ € for him? I doubt it.